David Peters broke owing money to many people
https://x.com/DylanLinde/status/20464123...
I deeply regret doing business with David Peters. Last summer Davi
I don't see how we can extrapolate from this post that all tournament players are broke. There is dead money in tournaments with amateurs, etc. These high stake tournaments with most people selling action are kind of weird. However, one player maybe being broke and another needing the money owed doesn't make them all broke.
not all but most. What do you think a realistic ROI is for say 1500 wsop event it. Now think about how many hours you play on average, expenses, variance, taxes etc. Yea they're broke except for the elite and a few sun runners.
Too many people trying to play for profit, poker economy can't sustain them all. Poker as a whole would be in a much better place if we just allowed people to go broke and move on without the stakes and loans.
Really him not paying up doesn't mean he's "broke" - he probably has minimums he needs to keep for living expenses and if he isn't fully backed. That could be 200k or more - who knows. He could have money tied up in other investments - you need a lot liquid to play tournament poker specifically.
as if any of this makes a difference when owing money. what a stupid argument. every dollar spent on yourself when you owe someone else is not acceptable. scale back, pay your debts and **** off.
Arguably one of the biggest fails of the poker boom was not getting a PGA (golf) or ATP (tennis) type of tour off the ground where there was no rake and sponsors were fronting the prize pool. Imagine golfers putting up $100k of their own money to play the Masters to compete for a prize pool that's raked for 10-20%. That's basically been the norm in poker. The math for being a t
A fail by whom?
Do you think WSOP or WPT owners were interested in turning their money-making ventures into money-losing ventures?
In fairness to Peters, current thread title is hyperbole until there are other reports of monies owed.
He admitted to it on Twitter it seems.
This whole "i have a cash liquidity issue" nonsense is either "im broke (but might have a few important assets i.e. a house) " or "im not entirely broke, but low on cash and while I could afford to pay you back, I dont feel like it right now".
Probably best to not be buying pieces of other people if youre not doing well financially. ****, certainly not buying into 6 figure tournaments either. Drop down in stakes, no shame in playing 5k-10ks for a year. Or grinding 25-50 or 200-400. Whatever. Thats plenty to make a living, six figure tourneys vs the best in the world make no sense. Its nearly all luck, their skill level is so similar.
people will continue to risk their money by loaning it out and then whining about not getting paid back.
Deadbeats: Hey, can I borrow some money?
Me: No
easy game FFS
Loved the video when Helmuth asks Ivey for money and Ivey tells him no.
mind sharing the link?
What is his leak? pit degen? sports betting? He owes me 50k he stop responding to texts.
Negreanu has just posted a video about this and i usually dont mind his view points but this one seems way too biased towards Peters side of it
Negreanu has just posted a video about this and i usually dont mind his view points but this one seems way too biased towards Peters side of it
I see what Daniel’s saying, that Peters’ was most likely going to pay and that Dylan must’ve misheard/misunderstood Peters when he said (paraphrasing) ‘here’s $15k, and you won’t see another dime, ’ which really makes no sense.
If you’re gonna steal from a guy, I don’t think you pay $15k at the same time you tell him you’ll be stiffing him on the rest. Otherwise, why pay him the $15k?
But Daniel’s wrong to downplay what Peters did. I agree with you there. He was evasive, lied, and put Dylan in a really tough spot. I don’t know what Dylan’s financial situation is, but Peters seemingly didn’t care that he was putting Dylan in a difficult spot.
He could’ve been up front at the start, and I doubt Dylan would’ve gone as far as he did. Peters has no one but himself to blame.
I tuned out when Daniel started telling his heroic tale of doggie defender, but hope his pup is ok.
I see what Daniel's saying, that Peters' was most likely going to pay and that Dylan must've misheard/misunderstood Peters when he said (paraphrasing) 'here's $15k, and you won't see another dime, ' which really makes no sense.If you're gonna steal from a guy, I don't think you pay $15k at the same time you tell him you'll be stiffing him on the rest. Otherwise, why pay him th
While he has a very good reputation he's also friends with some real scumbags like Cheeno so it's not too surprising he'd take this viewpoint . Who knows maybe if poker didn't blow up Dnegs would owe a bunch of money all over Vegas.
I see what Daniel's saying, that Peters' was most likely going to pay and that Dylan must've misheard/misunderstood Peters when he said (paraphrasing) 'here's $15k, and you won't see another dime, ' which really makes no sense.
Hawkins made this same argument and he was wrong too. Not sure why Daniel is semi defending this ****.
He has a trustworthy reputation but if you think DN is seen as a good guy you might have a warped perspective.
He has a trustworthy reputation but if you think DN is seen as a good guy you might have a warped perspective.
I understand that that by it's very nature, playing poker is a predatory endeavor so most players likely have a shady/predatory side to them.
No doubt.
That said, can you point to anything DN has done that would make it warped to see him as a good guy? Anything?
Do you have anything or is your post just jealousy?
video title: Broke high limit players exposed!
Dnegs: I'm not going to name names
Why not? If that is what you believe to be true, then why aren't you shouting their names from the rooftops?
I understand that that by it's very nature, playing poker is a predatory endeavor so most players likely have a shady/predatory side to them.
No doubt.
That said, can you point to anything DN has done that would make it warped to see him as a good guy Anything
Do you have anything or is your post just jealousy
Hes a hypocritical company stooge elitist. I could give you 100s of examples. "Higher rake is better" for one. He went off the deep end socially in 2024
This idea that you can't criticize successful people unless you are jealous is completely ******ed by the way. He plays poker. Hes not solving world hunger
video title: Broke high limit players exposed!
Dnegs: I'm not going to name names
Why not? If that is what you believe to be true, then why aren't you shouting their names from the rooftops?
Also
Video title: broke high limit players
Dnegs : I'm not going to name names.
Also Dnegs: People shouldn't put these people on blast on social media but I'm going to post a video on social media which will have people Google who this player is. Viewers didn't even know this situation was going on until Dnegs posted video on social media.
Streisand effect
Hes a hypocritical company stooge elitist. I could give you 100s of examples. "Higher rake is better" for one. He went off the deep end socially in 2024
This idea that you can't criticize successful people unless you are jealous is completely ******ed by the way. He plays poker. Hes not solving world hunger
You beat me to the "more rake is better" rubbish, on top of that he comes across as a patronizing git.
All that said I respect what he has done well for poker and his skills, just not the kind of person I would hang out with but whatever, the world would be boring if we were all the same I guess.
I understand that that by it's very nature, playing poker is a predatory endeavor so most players likely have a shady/predatory side to them.No doubt.That said, can you point to anything DN has done that would make it warped to see him as a good guy AnythingDo you have anything or is your post just jealousy
Hes a hypocritical company stooge elitist. I could give you 100s of exa
Wait. The words trustworthy and good guy were used.
Sure someone shilling for a company is a stooge but how does that make them untrustworthy or a bad guy?
Also you last paragraph is a strawman.
Hes a hypocritical company stooge elitist. I could give you 100s of examples. "Higher rake is better" for one.
Taking statements out of context (that were 100% correct, and he is 100% correct that in certain circumstances, higher rake can drive all the pros out of a game and make it better) do more to make you look like a bad guy than DN.
