[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.

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01 August 2024 at 05:08 PM
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Damn, well, that settles it then. Well, it would if it weren't for the ad homs that fatally undermine your argument.

What did the scientists say when you wrote to tell them about this?


Re Michelson-Morley: where is your proof that the aether exists?


by 1&onlybillyshears

deflections go every which way due to compounding variables.

Confounding variables, professor. Compounding is what interest on principal does.


by d2_e4

Re Michelson-Morley: where is your proof that the aether exists?

Non sequitur.

The measurement of (nearly) no fringe shift does not disprove the existence of aether. It proves a stationary Earth, while the *nearly* bit confirms the rotation of aether around the Earth. As we observe daily.

Lorentz explained the result by length contraction *with* aether. Einstein's second postulate, the uniformity of the speed of light regardless of the motion of the observer and source, does not require an aether. Photons propagate independently of a medium.


by d2_e4

Damn, well, that settles it then. Well, it would if it weren't for the ad homs that fatally undermine your argument.

What did the scientists say when you wrote to tell them about this?

"The scientists" wrote about this. I am simply telling you what they said.


by 1&onlybillyshears

Non sequitur.The measurement of (nearly) no fringe shift does not disprove the existence of aether. It proves a stationary Earth, while the *nearly* bit confirms the rotation of aether around the Earth. As we observe daily.Lorentz explained the result by length contraction *with* aether. Einstein's second postulate, the uniformity of the speed of light regardless of the motion

So, you don't have any then, thanks for confirming.

We observe the rotation of the aether around the Earth daily? Tell us more.


by 1&onlybillyshears

"The scientists" wrote about this. I am simply telling you what they said.

No, you're not, as a quick perusal of the relevant literature confirms. "The scientists" do not say anywhere that either of the experiments you have referenced prove that the Earth is flat. On the contrary, they have a completely different explanation of the results.


by d2_e4

No, you're not, as a quick perusal of the relevant literature confirms. "The scientists" do not say anywhere that either of the experiments you have referenced prove that the Earth is flat. On the contrary, they have a completely different explanation of the results.

"Quick perusal"

=

"Frantic google search".

How about AI cut and paste? I see they take inspiration from reddit, quora and the infamous flatearth.ws. Classic.


by 1&onlybillyshears

"Quick perusal"

=

"Frantic google search".

How about AI cut and paste? I see they take inspiration from reddit, quora and the infamous flatearth.ws. Classic.

Why don't you show us where "the scientists" tell us that the results of these experiments prove that the Earth is flat, and give us the names of some of these scientists.


I note you completely ignored the question about how we observe the rotation of the aether around the Earth daily. Bit of a habit you have there, ignoring questions you can't answer.


by d2_e4

I note you completely ignored the question about how we observe the rotation of the aether around the Earth daily. Bit of a habit you have there, ignoring questions you can't answer.

Must be pushback against your ad homs[sic] and 'frantic' google searches.


by 1&onlybillyshears

"Proved me wrong"? Moi? By this brain-dead/washed village fool? Methinks not.

I prove daily him/you/2p2degens beyond doubt, categorically, conclusively, wrong.

Let us return to the proof of a stationary Earth, with the celestial bodies appearing to move above us. This is consistent with Joshua also, you should have no trouble with this.

You mention Joshua as if we haven't already discussed this. Joshua's 'long day' is consistent with both theories.


by geezerchess

Must be pushback against your ad homs[sic] and 'frantic' google searches.

Either that or you are an insane, dishonest moron. Guess we'll never know which.


by 1&onlybillyshears

Launcher is on a ship. Target is a ship.

It works. Therefore Earth is flat.

Ps. We already knew.

No. The maximum range of the missile (which is surface-to-air with only a potential secondary role against surface targets) does not relate to the detection range of surface radar against surface targets.

It is looking as if you do not know how anything works.


by d2_e4

Why don't you show us where "the scientists" tell us that the results of these experiments prove that the Earth is flat, and give us the names of some of these scientists.

Another non sequitur.

Can you post once without making a silly fallacy?

I did not say in that post anything about Earth being flat.


by d2_e4

I note you completely ignored the question about how we observe the rotation of the aether around the Earth daily. Bit of a habit you have there, ignoring questions you can't answer.

We observe the rotation of the celestial sphere daily. This is recorded to a high degree of accuracy by the Michelson-Morley and more so by the Sagnac etc.

The "not quite nil" result is not explained in interpretations that dispense with the aether and maintain earth motion. Yet it is an observable effect.


by geezerchess

You mention Joshua as if we haven't already discussed this. Joshua's 'long day' is consistent with both theories.

Only for your bastardisation. He said the Sun stood still.


by 57 On Red

No. The maximum range of the missile (which is surface-to-air with only a potential secondary role against surface targets) does not relate to the detection range of surface radar against surface targets.

It is looking as if you do not know how anything works.

You just made this up.

Read the page I cited and original sources where they are still active online. Full surface to surface functionality.

Of course, you are cherry picking to suit your fundamentalist religious belief system. You think this is going to wash here? Hmm? Not on my shift.


by 1&onlybillyshears

Another non sequitur.

Can you post once without making a silly fallacy?

I did not say in that post anything about Earth being flat.

Oh dear, sounds like you're not capable of following the thread of a discussion. Never mind.



by 1&onlybillyshears

We observe the rotation of the celestial sphere daily. This is recorded to a high degree of accuracy by the Michelson-Morley and more so by the Sagnac etc.

The "not quite nil" result is not explained in interpretations that dispense with the aether and maintain earth motion. Yet it is an observable effect.

So we can observe rotation through the aether without even establishing its existence. Logic is not really your thing, huh professor?


by d2_e4

So we can observe rotation through the aether without even establishing its existence. Logic is not really your thing, huh professor?

This is rather silly. It should not be underestimated how shocking the "null" result was. James Clerk Maxwell was incredibly successful in describing electromagnetism - the aether was almost certain to be discovered. It took a while to come to terms with the result, demanding further tests until it was accepted. So the aether was very much established, underpinning Maxwell's equations.


by 1&onlybillyshears

This is rather silly. It should not be underestimated how shocking the "null" result was. James Clerk Maxwell was incredibly successful in describing electromagnetism - the aether was almost certain to be discovered. It took a while to come to terms with the result, demanding further tests until it was accepted. So the aether was very much established, underpinning Maxwell's eq

Except that according to mainstream science, the aether does not exist. So either some of the smartest people to ever live are right, or some moron on the internet who calculates damage caused by projectiles without taking into account their velocity and doesn't know the difference between "compounding" and "confounding" is. It's quite the poser, really. Very confounding.


by 1&onlybillyshears

Only for your bastardisation. He said the Sun stood still.

By your 'logic', the National Weather Service believes in a stationary Earth because they tell us the daily 'sunrise' and 'sunset' times for each city.


by d2_e4

Either that or you are an insane, dishonest moron. Guess we'll never know which.

Wat??


by d2_e4

Except that according to mainstream science, the aether does not exist. So either some of the smartest people to ever live are right, or some moron on the internet who calculates damage caused by projectiles without taking into account their velocity and doesn't know the difference between "compounding" and "confounding" is. It's quite the poser, really. Very confounding.

As pointed out already, which you failed to follow as per the miserable pathetic troll you are, the MM result does not discount the aether. It is Einstein's second postulate that does. "Science" does not require an aether, but is not the same as aether not existing. For instance, a sea of neutrinos is a possible contender for the aether. Apparently Maxwell, the very person responsible for enabling you to troll the internet with your absurd ramblings, is not "one of the smartest people".

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