K8o checked preflop with a bad-beat run-out
1/2. Rake/promo/tip is 6+3+1.
V (300) is a very loose-passive (45/8/0) over 60 hands. He told me his wife just won $3,000 on the slot machines. Though he plays with his friends all the time, he’s never played in a casino. V right away noticed I never limped, only raised. “How come you're not playing like everyone else? You’re like my friend we call the sledgehammer,” he asks and gives me a big smile. He asked me to review a hand history with him while the dealer shuffled. He asked me what I would do. I said raise preflop. (Yes, I would probably win more money if I kept my mouth shut.) V sorely overvalued his top pair on a wet board. He’s down 600. Hero took most of his stack.
Hero (covers) has a tricky image to V.
OTTH
Three limps. V in SB limps. Hero in BB with K8o checks. Five-way.
Flop (8): KKTr
V checks. Hero bets 5. Only V calls.
Turn (16): Tr
V grabs all his green chips. Hero?
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Often grabbing chips in this situation is a weakness probably indicating a poor made hand that wants to get to showdown.
That said, the amounts in absolute terms are small, so lets bet 20 and see if we can get called by a lower PP or Ace high. Jamming if we get raised.
Hitch is on target - a defensive move implying “don’t go crazy, because I’m going to call”
I think I’d take a green chip and bet it.
Hand continues
Three limps. V in SB limps. Hero in BB with K8o checks. Five-way.
Flop (8): KKTr
V checks. Hero bets 5. Only V calls.
Turn (16): Tr
V grabs all his green chips. Hero? Hero bets 10. V calls.
River: (25) T
V grabs all his green chips again. Hero bets 20. V raises to 100. Hero?
What a twit. I'm not folding top boat to Mr. Hollywood. Yes, he probably has quads. "It's good for the game."
Don't donk out on the flop 5-ways, 2nd to act. AP, I'm overbetting turn. Calling now. Let him show off the quads. Try to congratulate the cretin.
dont bet flop. you have a two street hand max vs. Tx. might as well try to let someone catch up a little. you also dont really want this pot to get big because if it does you are toast.
as played im not sure what the point of the river bet is. i dont see a worse hand he could ever have that is calling. can you think of one? if you didnt bet the flop then a river bet to get called by ace high would make more sense.
id fold the river.
I don’t understand the river bet with that board
No offense, but I’ve never seen a $5 bet playing 1/3 - maybe it’s just a much bigger game than 1/2
If it is that much smaller, then a hundred must be a monster bet. It just seems like he would have raised earlier with a hand that has us beat, unless he had a ten.
The only factor that favors a call is that he’s losing and may be tilting. Still, it’s hard to believe someone has the gumption to bet this board with nothing.
Being that I’m used to weighing what to do with a lot more (300-700+) on the line by the river, I might be tempted to call here. But it’s not a good situation when your best result is probably a chop.
you have a two street hand max vs. Tx. might as well try to let someone catch up a little. you also dont really want this pot to get big because if it does you are toast
+1. V calls for a chop with all Kx, and with the chop hero loses 5 on the hand to the rake. I’m not sure V calls all his Tx for the win.
Results
Hero calls. V shows TJ.
Someone says high hand. Dealer says no. You gotta play your highest hand and also use both cards. V’s highest hand is with one card: TTTTK beats TTTTJ. I don’t get it.
Lesson: Don’t go broke in a limp pot.
A little late to the party here but when reading the HH the thing that jumped out was on the river-- "grabs the green chips again" and how ppl are indeed conscious when they do something a 2nd time after seeing how you reacted the 1st time
In the hand, I read his first chip raising as wanting to put chips in the pot, so I put mine in first, expecting a call. Maybe that was the wrong read. But when he did it the second time, maybe he was inducing me to bet again? I obviously should have just check called or folded the river. I was studying people the whole session for tells. I felt like the chip-raising distracted me from concluding that V makes a 2x psb on the river only with the nuts. It has nothing to do with how he holds his chips.
