My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL
My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL
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My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

Hello everyone, I want to share with you my 20 days result with 50$ deposit on GGpoker

2NL was awful, after like 15k hand

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11 September 2023 at 12:13 PM
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Epic comeback



curious, what was the effective rakeback without the races at 50 since the change with your high volume?

like 15-20%?


by SerOuanling m

curious, what was the effective rakeback without the races at 50 since the change with your high volume?

like 15-20%?

When i moved up to 50 i had really high PVI i was getting around 35% only from gems alone not including leaderboards but after nl50 success in that period when i started mixing nl100 my PVI at nl50 dropped and i think i was getting 20-25% only but now at nl100 it’s still high, i got 30% worth of gems from todays session


Yesterdays session took my soul lol i don't feel like playing today, maybe i should give up this challenge



Really great comeback. I admire your mindset. Best of luck m8


So here's rake and rakeback breakdown from yesterdays session:

I received 100$ from leaderboard and also pure rakeback aka "gems" 170$ + 35$ from flipout tourney which was 25$ cash and 10$ tourney ticket.

Total 4254 hands played, rake paid: 516.27$ (12.13bb/100 which is so far the lowest i've ever had at 9max deep antes, at nl50 i was paying 15.5bb/100 btw)

Effective rakeback from gems: 170$ (32.92%)
Leaderboard: 100$ (19.36%)
Flipout: 35$ (6.77%)
Total rakeback: 305$ (59%)

Yeah my PVI seems crazy high right now because i got insanely good rakeback (59% woot)

As of this challenge as i said I'm not in a mood to play today, i prefer to give up that 25$ or whatever and just prepare for Saturday's session, i just don't like to do things when i don't feel like it even if it causes to lose me some money.



by 0iq poker m

Really great comeback. I admire your mindset. Best of luck m8

Thanks mate, gl you too.


nice thats interesting. Good minset to have too.

my site im paying 13-14bb/100, games are not deep and theres no rakeback except a rakerace where you're lucky to get 10% rb out of the non-bbj part of it.

cant ever win bbj because its quad 8 minimum


Yeah these 5 bettors got lucky today i forfeited this challenge, they got free money.


by SerOuanling m

nice thats interesting. Good minset to have too.

my site im paying 13-14bb/100, games are not deep and theres no rakeback except a rakerace where you're lucky to get 10% rb out of the non-bbj part of it.

cant ever win bbj because its quad 8 minimum

Games must be really soft then?

I didn't even count BBJ when i counted rakeback above, well with BBJ i can say it can go up to 100% rakeback lol


the 30nl games are insanely soft. average 3-4 big fish per table.. the regs are worse than 2NL on stars. The main reg is a 15/11 at 6max. There's a weird ass bot that plays like the poker on CD games from 20 yhears ago. Opens pot for weak hands and 10bb-allin better hands. 0% fold to 3b and basically calls any pair on river or fold for 1bb if missed.

50nl is really good too when it runs, raredly more than 1-2 table but i avoid it, im running 12bb/100 under ev there. Then nl100 is the only active stake after that the 1/2-5/10 rarely runs, so the players play 100nl. The 100 only regulars are on average 32-38 WWSF. Really weak and they understand no concept. So if you apply any logic from the past 5-6 years you own yourself. They dont understand betsize. But you have a few highstakers playing all 100nl tables to rake more and secure their top5 spot in the race which are quite annoying as they push edges really hard which is terrible in a high rake environement. The rest of tthe field at 100 is half live poker players(so semi fish) and some really hardcore fishes.

Software always crashes too, super tilting. It's probably worth having it opened for 1-2 tables on the side but as a main site its horrible. My winrate at 30nl was 30$/hr 6-8 tabling though.

its a canadian site. I really hope my province will join up with ontario. Having these players on a working software with rakeback would be insane. Most 1k regs on ontario didnt even beat nl100 before the split. Im even thinking of moving to ontario just to make 10k part time playing 100-200 during my work/a bit after.

https://prnt.sc/JpGNbLHcPiYa
example from a 50nl from yesterday vpip/pfr/steal/3b/f3b

everyone a fish except on the left


by SerOuanling m

the 30nl games are insanely soft. average 3-4 big fish per table.. the regs are worse than 2NL on stars. The main reg is a 15/11 at 6max. There's a weird ass bot that plays like the poker on CD games from 20 yhears ago. Opens pot for weak hands and 10bb-allin better hands. 0% fold to 3b and basically calls any pair on river or fold for 1bb if missed.50nl is really good too whe

Yeah on GGpoker and mass populated sites there is one downside, too many staples "factory produce" studied ****regs from countries where salary is low like Eastern Europe, Brazil and so on all have access to just jump in and they obviously take a lot of EV, they might be rakeback grinders, slightly losing players or whatever but still they're just bad for poker ecosystem and they're bad for all of us imo


Today as I’m writing this post it’s 8 May 2026 and currently I’m trying to establish myself at NL100, roll at 8,5k$.

I’ll write here what will happen in the future:

In 2-3 months I’ll be established at NL200 and my roll will be at 20k$ (Est. date Jul-Aug 2026)

In 4-6 months my roll will be at 50k$ and I’ll be mixing NL500 (Est. date Sep-Nov 2026)

In 7-9 months my roll will be at 100k$ and I’ll be making moves to transition at 6max NL1k NL2k but I’ll be still mixing NL500 NL1k deep antes (Est. date Jan-Mar 2027)

Call me DELUSIONAL, this will happen as written.


Good old delusion when running good. Did you read too much of Linus’ blog? Just calm down a little bit, or reality will be painful. Your goals are not possible β€” prove me wrong.


It's possible running absurdly hot.

Players do hit break-even and losing streaks which can last a long time. Especially with the fairly low volume we're talking about here. If volume was increased and could play break-even at least then the rakeback will certainly contribute a lot towards progression.


by blazar m

Today as I’m writing this post it’s 8 May 2026 and currently I’m trying to establish myself at NL100, roll at 8,5k$.I’ll write here what will happen in the future:In 2-3 months I’ll be established at NL200 and my roll will be at 20k$ (Est. date Jul-Aug 2026)In 4-6 months my roll will be at 50k$ and I’ll be mixing NL500 (Est. date Sep-Nov 2026)In 7-9 months my roll will be at 10

Take any bets for this?


New challenge for this week is set and it's already full, we have 5 non-believers, tomorrow we start.


by Dontletit m

Good old delusion when running good. Did you read too much of Linus’ blog? Just calm down a little bit, or reality will be painful. Your goals are not possible β€” prove me wrong.

by Masq m

It's possible running absurdly hot.

Players do hit break-even and losing streaks which can last a long time. Especially with the fairly low volume we're talking about here. If volume was increased and could play break-even at least then the rakeback will certainly contribute a lot towards progression.

by Pablito m

Take any bets for this?

I know my progress and i know my game, my game is highly exploitative, i truly believe my skills are way above the field right now and the only way they can stop me from winning is them to play balanced strategy which i doubt they will because to play balanced strategy in sakes to just not lose money from me is so weak and unambitious, most likely they will be unbalanced and I’ll be exploiting hell out of them.

Tbh i don’t want to be thinking about long term goals too much, that’s why i never make long term bets, lets all just forget about it and the goals will be achieved naturally within timelines. Right now i just want to concentrate on current progress, I'll be making small challenges probably twice a week.


Well that confidence lasted long.


Just won a BBJ share (340$)


Was winning like 240$ something before BBJ share so I auto won the challenge afterwards



table select the 200 during that heater and u may never look back

everyone i know who eventualy quit poker did so because they didnt move up aggressively when they had heaters.. After that lifes get in the way.

After 10-15 bi at 200, taking 500 shots on super soft tables can send u quickly into a 200-500 fulltime player making 5-7k a month in rb minimum


Never mind i punted like 4x 200bb stack already, my bad I played it careless like it was NL2 lol I'm not ready yet for nl200 for sure, everything has it's time, not gonna speed things up, probably will play a lot nl100 before moving up

Gonna take a break now and then hopefully play well.


Today seriously had worst day ever lol a fighting reg was getting lucky on me and i was punting stacks, also vs others x2 preflop 200bb+ allin KK vs AA (happened TWICE)

But at least i played a lot managed to get few stacks in the end but at one point i was down more than 1k$ now dunno still playing, 1st on the leaderboard at least



you gotta switch from bb to $, play a bit weaker at the start until you get a read on the players


Yesterday after winning the challenge roll peaked career high 9,1k$ but shortly after i started losing and especially last 2 hours i acted to make desperate moves which ended up punting which worsened the outcome, roll is at 8,2k$ right now, not yet sure if i play today’s session, thinking about it.


Just play bro


I decided to not play today mainly because it will be lose-lose scenario for me, lets imagine if i win 1k$ today that will take away all my motivation to improve, i will probably think "I'm fine" which will be very wrong, NO I'm not fine and i have a lot to improve... but lets imagine if i lose 1k$ today then i will feel even more miserable, thats why i will go extreme now and take a week off to work on my game then i will come back stronger than ever.

You guys don't know me, I'm different, i do things differently, money means for me absolutely nothing at this stage of my career, what matters is creating poker skill that will generate enormous money in the future, i will tell you one story:

There was a time not long time ago when i had tiny roll maybe 500$ish then i had like 30BI downswing or something like that (i don't remember exactly but it was huge downswing) people are witness that i wrote in discord that I'm gonna take a week off and take 200-300$ from my savings and buy expensive food like Caviar and stuff to enjoy myself, work on my game and come back stronger, money meant nothing for me back then and means nothing now, i will do the same, i will spend money now to buy a lot of expensive food, fully enjoy whole week and i will work on my game very hard, i already see patterns to spot a thing or two where my game needs improvement.

I know sometimes i sound not very humble when i say I'm this and I'm that but i truly believe what i usually say and i need to say things right now for my confidence and motivation, when i achieve big success then i will become humble, then there will be no need to talk, my success will speak for itself.


If money means nothing to you at this point in your career, why track every $ of the bankroll during and after every session?

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