Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions

Well,you got a caller for $150 preflop so what do i i know about this[emoji16]

If you got a call for this price,that tells me your sizing was pretty close to optimal for the games you are playing. So nice hand.

i think given how low your stack is and presumably how gambly/speculatively she got it in there - you can make it as low as 75 even and just jam every flop reasonably - max i'd go is 100 there

if we were deeper then i'm happy to put in 150ish in hopes to iso to a single caller but this shallow i'm happy to raise to any amount against any amount of players to a flop and just jam every flop

Are 4 straight boards and 4 flush boards over bluffed or under bluffed? When should I be bluffing in these spots?

I would think that in theory these are great spots to bluff, but in practice, players probably don’t pull the trigger enough.

I think you have to kinda fall into these bluffs. People are scared of obvious threats, so value is face up. When everyone checks, look weak are capped - you kinda see the opportunity

I think it’s best not to try and get tricky, because it’s hard to apply pressure when there’s not many value hands and most likely nobody is bluffing

Heres one. Stacks EP $250, SB $150, hero covers. Preflop- hero in BB, at some point has looked and has AA. Villain in EP raises to $5 with one red chip, but dealer didn't seem to hear and when it folds to SB dealer says "$2" so SB completes.

Now it's on us, and the dilemma is that the wrong action has been made clear by the dealer and acted on by SB but do we want to go back and see if that $5 raise was intended so we can raise larger, or maybe we just act like it didn't happen and raise a smaller amount?

ooh interesting spot, i think asking to clarify is not needed because both are shallow anyway and it could possibly come off as a tell of (oh this guy is super eager to chips in)

i would just put out 20-25 or if you think they are passive as low as 15 and silently, again, stacks so small that you can afford to go smaller here

+1 Just exploit the info you got and casually throw out a bigger than normal raise because you expect action.

Ok fine. So partly I needed to whine but mostly I was wondering if I could have done something different to avoid the outcome or if this was karma for not clarifying action.

Once the SB has called the $2, I grab 3 reds and raise to $17 in tempo, without saying anything. Gets back to EP and he now points out he actually raised to $5. Dealer says, well I didn't hear it and didn't announce it so you're only in for 2. He folds and gets $3 change, sb folds. The floor comes over and supports the decision, and rather than escalate over $3 I sit and fume for a few hands.

the utg fold is very odd, i think for a good player, there's no hand in their utg range that they have an rfi/fold to small 3! range with, especially in position

but i think it's clear that this hand was never going anywhere and given how it played out, sb probably doesn't complete and just folds if he's told he now has to put in 5 and knows that you're going to raise anyway

so it's win $4 or win $6, either way not something to stress about imo

shitty situation though and definitely a good hand to post in this thread specifically 😀

It's pretty much a jagoff test-the-waters raise, you often see these old regs do. Usually a non premium Broadway, Ax, whatever. This particular player had a standard $10+ open for better hands. At least I can use that info in the future, that $5 (once confirmed) can be fked with.

what would you do?

1-3nl short table various stack sizes

H ($450) opens $15 in early position with AKo
BU ($130) and both blinds call.
flop K high with 3 clubs, Hs Ace is not a club
both blinds quickly check their cards. BU reaches for his cards but stops once his hands touch them.
BB donks for about 1/3 pot.

live analysis relies heavily on player types, we need more info imo

but readless, i would definitely call and reevaluate, you may not have the most equity, but on the flop you have the best hand here most of the time

Don't raise.

Fold or call are both fine, depending on any other information you have. Would lean call, given the size.

Note that on the flop you are only 60/40 vs. BB with 8c7h on Kc9c4c, and could be drawing dead vs. Jc6c or whatever. Ofc. given the size BB can be spew betting a random K with no club, which you could be 90%+ against.

1-3NL, straddle is on

Villain UTG+2 $650
Hero SB $475

Villain raises to $12, CO 3! to $35, Hero raises to $110 with K♣K♦, Villain quickly calls, CO tanks for 2 minutes and verbally says he folded AK (thanks)

Pot $265

Flop 5♦3♣6♠

Hero??

I know the standard line is c-bet small here, but Villain has a ~80% VPIP over the last hour, younger guy, bought in for $500, dusted it, rebought, went down to $40, built it back up, is stabbing whenever checked to and has shown he'll call off big bets with any piece of the board. That said, should we ever consider either checking here to induce, or jamming, instead of betting say $50?

On this drawless board that he shouldn't have any part of at an SPR 1.4, the only thing we're concerned about is having him manage a hero fold with a worse hand. About the only time he's going to consider that is to a shove. So as long as we don't shove, I think we're fine. Either a silly small bet to move things along (which I'd lean to) or a check are ok, imo.

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With that high a VPIP you might want to cold 4bet a bit bigger, esp. when he snap calls here.

The stab read would normally make me check, but you cold 4bet in SB ... not many people are stupid/unaware enough to fire a random pair into that, nevermind air. If you think V still might, then I don't mind check.

I don't love very small downbet as much as robots would here. They love it because he's supposed to have a very small range, like shrug folding most (if not all) QQ to your preflop raise.

I'd probably bet $80 and shove any raise or shove any turn (without god like reads).

based off description, v sounds super wide here and spr is shallow enough that any action on later streets can get stacks in

i think checking or a small bet is fine, i think betting small is probably better because checking is more suspicious and giving him rope to check back makes later streets less trivial

at this point, i think it's less about anything in your control and more about whether he wants to give up or not

this feels like a classic 'stack a donk' territory

c bet $80 then check raise turn

How could i have played these AKo hands when i 3 bet pre and miss, cbet and check down?

2 recent examples:

$1/$1 300 eff
+1 Open 10, 4 or 5 calls, i raise to 50 with AKo in bb with 300+, MP (loose station) defends. Heads up to 8 6 2, I decide to c bet 50 as he is really wide pre and can have all sorts of hands that miss. He calls. Turn and River were low cards (I forgot what exactly) and it checks through. He turns over 63o. Perhaps with all the dead money I should have jammed pre? I stopped barreling since he is a station and may call down with 2nd or 3rd pair etc

$1/$1 300 eff
I straddle to 2, MP (different game, different guy, no reads) raises to 10, folds to me in straddle i 3bet to 40, he calls. Flop Q8x. I bet 35 he calls. Turn J, I pick up equity but thought this card may have helped my opponent a lot with made hands eg QJ, 9T or extra equity eg JTs. I check, MP bets 90 I fold.

1 if only one raiser and no calls you'd have 3! to 30-40, so only making it 50 is way too low and not at all accounting for other players

i'd make it an even100 but as a minimum you can't do it for less than 70 imo

2 see, here just 1 guy and you do 40...

this one i would check the flop, you're out of position and can't really credibly rep the Q very often so he's going to float a lot in position and force you to check/fold the turn as such

at my local casino a player who goes all in will get the all in button and will be asked to put at least one chip across the line “for the cameras”. Likewise a player calling can announce call and throw in one chip.

Standard reg EP limps with kings
Rec MP raises
Folds to reg who shoves. He puts out a small stack of red but there is a stack of green unseen behind his hands. I’m 85% certain this was not an angle. It was just the natural way this player sat with his cards.
Rec calls. Then realizes the all in was much larger than he thought. He wasn’t happy about it but put the money in anyway. The run out was good for the rec and he said something about karma.

What do you think should the floor have been called? Should the rec have been more careful and asked or have known how much the starting stacks were? I knew he had some green. Should the rec have known too? Could the floor have done anything? Is it the reg’s responsibility to make his stack more visible?

A lot of this depends on the room, and even the stakes.

In theory: no; yes; maybe; no; no but maybe

But at low stakes I've seen floors rule much worse than allowing the rec to either fold or call the correct sized all in before any other non-folding action happens.

Generally should call a floor anytime there's a dispute worth more than like $50, imo.

Yes and yes on the knowing. The floor likely wouldn't do anything other than remind the reg to keep his big chips visible and/or to tell the rec to ask for a count if they're unsure for a first time offense, but if the reg is in the habit of hiding their big chips and this is not the first time the floor has been called on them they might give them a timeout.

I believe if the action was only misunderstood by about $100-200 it's probably never going to be ruled such that the reg is losing a portion of the pot over it. But if the reg has done it repeatedly and/or it's for a more substantial amount, the floor could probably rule in a number of ways. But this is part of why you should call the floor if there's a discrepancy worth more than $50 -- if this reg keeps doing it and nobody calls the floor, the floor won't know it's their Nth time doing it!

A call is a call. Nothing else matters

Poker is a game of observation - the player needs to ask if they’re uncertain but as soon as they make the call, it’s done.

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