Is 40/80 mixed that tough?
Dealer said everyone in that game had a bracelet. Now there are a lot of mixed and games that are not NLH or PLO high tournaments at the WSOP. Are mixed games at those stakes almost all pros and mostly good pros?
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Probably not. But, since I don't know the specific game you're talking about, it could easily be a very tough game. There is even more variance in limit games than there is in no-limit. A weak player of whatever type has a better shot to beat out a given number of entries in a limit tournament than in a big bet tournament. I know somebody with multiple limit bracelets, and I think he is very weak at all the games. Even more so in cash, when he can't win pots with just random aggression.
having a bracelet doesn't mean someone is a good player
In my experience, any mix (8+ games), will have potential 2-3k swings at any given time, easily. I am seeing 6k swings at big LHE games.
If they are all pros, they all won't be pros for long.
Obviously there can be a period of time when the game is only filled with tough winning players, but long term that can't be the case.
I had a 30/60 LHE game a few weeks ago where it was me along with 4 really good players, and 2 average to poor players. Multiple average players left or didn't join because of how tough the lineup was. Normally I would do the same, but I wanted some practice so I stayed until the game broke 3 handed when I finally quit.
Probably not. But, since I don't know the specific game you're talking about, it could easily be a very tough game. There is even more variance in limit games than there is in no-limit. A weak player of whatever type has a better shot to beat out a given number of entries in a limit tournament than in a big bet tournament. I know somebody with multiple limit bracelets, and
Curious about your claim that there is more variance in Limit than NL.
I assume you mean for 'comparable' stakes, using the usual tournament formula, where the blinds get cut in half; are you saying there is more variance in a 10-20 NL cash game than a 40-80 mixed game?
That is surprising to me. Especially if there are many split games in the mix, as there are in most mixes these days.
More variance as it compares to your winrate.
That doesn't make sense either. What if my win rate is very good at one game, and very, very small at another. Then the game with the small win rate will of course have more variance compared to my win rate.
This is not the first time this particular assumption has confounded me.
The High Roller scene is supposed to be a victim of this phenomenon. But those are very small MTTs, as compared to say a WSOP $1500 where the variance is enormous relative to any 40 player field.
There is variance. There is EV. Saying one game has more variance since your EV is so low is illogical (to me).
That doesn't make sense either. What if my win rate is very good at one game, and very, very small at another. Then the game with the small win rate will of course have more variance compared to my win rate.This is not the first time this particular assumption has confounded me.The High Roller scene is supposed to be a victim of th
Don't think of it as your personal variance and EV. Think of it in terms of the very best players in that game. What is the ratio of variance to EV for those players? For those players, the ratio will be higher in limit games compared to big bet games.
