1/2: Just folded back-to-back KK and AKo vs the same guy

1/2: Just folded back-to-back KK and AKo vs the same guy

.. and now I’m questioning life choices.

Hand 1:

$550 eff

Open HJ KK to $15, CO calls, BTN calls, BB calls

Flop ($60): T87
I bet $25, CO calls, BB calls

Turn ($135): A
Checks through

River ($135): 8
BB checks, I check, CO bets $80, BB folds

I folded KK.



Very next hand:

UTG whale limps, I make it $20 UTG1 with AKo, same V in UTG2 makes it $80, folds back to whale who cold calls the $80 (later saw him do this with K4o), action back on me…

…and I folded AKo too because live 1/2 UTG1 vs UTG2 4x 3-bets always feel like JJ+/AK at a minimum.

Too nitty or reasonable exploitative folds?

23 May 2026 at 08:04 AM
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I might’ve bet more on the flop Hand 1 but other than that looks good to me.


H1, I would not cbet the mid connected flop with KK 4-ways. River, it is checked to him, so he could bluff. Possible to bet or bluff catch the river.

H2, without reads, this is a fold in a 1/2 game. 3!s at 1/2 are usually strong, and the configuration makes it look strong.


H1 is definitely a flop check on that board with 3 opponents and OOP. The crap turn card is another check. But that means you can check/call most river bets because the pot isn’t very big.

H2 is not a fold with the dead money in the pot. Can see merit behind both call and 4!


by ntnBO

H1 is definitely a flop check on that board with 3 opponents and OOP. The crap turn card is another check. But that means you can check/call most river bets because the pot isn’t very big.

H2 is not a fold with the dead money in the pot. Can see merit behind both call and 4!

Agree with this, except H2 can be a fold in a 1/2 game, because 3! ranges tend to be tight. Definitely not a fold without reads at 2/5 or higher.


no way im betting that flop into 4 players

hand 2 im 4 betting pre unless the guy is super nitty, like an old man or gobbledygeek, in which case i understand folding.


By definition a good exploitive play is playing "wrong". If V is only betting Ax+ in hand 1 then it's a good fold. But recognize that you opened the door with your line for the to have an easy bluff or value bet Tx/JJ. Your flop bet left him last to act And when everybody checks through the turn and river V can be quite confident nobody has an A or trips. So if we respect V at all we need to put in the call.

H2 how deep you all are is very relevant here, but I would have to be convinced that V is only three betting AA and nothing else to fold. Depending on stack sizes, flatting is a perfectly viable option. Especially if you think whale is going to go broke with Kx if a K hits. I think folding is crazy unless V only 3!s once a week.


first one seems like a bad cbet. i dont really see much reason to call the river

second one looks like a very easy jam when utg cold calls 80


by BullyEyelash

I might've bet more on the flop Hand 1 but other than that looks good to me.

4-way, I thought this was closer to a check than a bet, let alone a bigger bet.


HU I don't mind a fold.
With Whale in hand, we not folding unless +2 shows AA face up.


by dangomango

HU I don't mind a fold.
With Whale in hand, we not folding unless +2 shows AA face up.

I squeezed in the same config the other day and ran into KK. The fact the UTG2 cold 3b 4x significantly overrides the extra $80 from the whale IMHO.


by 6betfold

I squeezed in the same config the other day and ran into KK. The fact the UTG2 cold 3b 4x significantly overrides the extra $80 from the whale IMHO.

We getting it in to see the flop not because of the extra 80$ from the whale. It's from implied odds of stacking the whale when we hit.
Postflop UTG+2 will play more faceup vs whale in hand.
We can still fold later on.


Hand one
You could be wrong, but there’s not many hands you beat. I agree with others (check flop) that one pair hands (even really good ones) try to get to showdown cheaply unless they improve. If you check flop, the turn check looks less like a give up which may have induced a bluff.

Hand two
I think a jam has too little fold equity and is just plain gambling. AKo is good 65% of the time against one random hand, but must be much less against two likely strong ranges - so a fold is never bad.

Would like to know a little about villains in considering implied odds. If they will stack off with worse, a call makes sense.

by dangomango

We can still fold later on.


You say "I folded KK" like it's some sort of hero fold but you folded KK on an Ace-high, paired, flushing board with straights galore in addition to all the boats and trips. As others have said flop is a clear check.

H2 with the limp-caller's dead money I would tend to jam more often than not, but it's definitely jam or fold.

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