1/2, $500 deep: QQ in a 4b pot on an A turn

why 4b pre? information? you wont get any, AA/KK is just going to flat here a lot.

Call pre

You put in way too much money across all streets with your hand against a range that is way too strong from this player pool on average

and yes turn call is lighting money on fire.

flop is bad too. size down.

The 4bet is really bad imo.

AP the flop bet is fine imo but then the turn has to be cf. If he shows a bluff, JJ, or the red queens, ain’t life’s rich pageantry a grand old time.

Edit: AP if hero does call the turn, imo he should call the river.

Is the flop really that bad? Is V folding 88-JJ for 100?

Because it’s almost a min3b pre which is much wider than just AA/KK

OOP tho

Just noticed this: Had you just sat down, or was it just your first pot played with UYG, because if it’s the former, AP it’s a snapcall otr imo getting 3-1.

Just sat down..

Pre: Yeah 4!, don't listen to the nits.

Flop: Yeah the size is big in theory, but exploitatively V is calling with JJ/TT here. We're jamming most turns.

Turn: The check is what makes this difficult because if V has JJ/TT, you are opening the door to be bluffed. The A should be fantastic for you because you have AA/AK/AQ. V shouldn't have AA, and is he really floating AK OTF for another $100? Maybe sometimes but not 100%. But when you give up the betting lead, your hand looks exactly like it is KK/QQ. If you lead for another $100-$150 and V jams right now you can just fold. If V calls I think check/fold is viable OTR. But we extend rope when we check because we are essentially declaring "I don't have an ace!"

River: As played it's extremely exploitive to fold. Which against a lot of players is the right move. But if you're going to fold river, you should have folded turn because you are basically saying with your call on the turn "Yes, I believe this player is capable of bluffing" If we believe V is capable of bluffing turn, then he's going to follow up with a river jam a lot because that's the only line that makes sense as a bluff. So either we fold turn because we are convinced V is OMC that is only betting Ax+ OTT, or we call river because we basically induced V to try to bluff us off a transparent KK/QQ.

So AP I think we have to call. I think the main decision point was the turn. I prefer to lead, but I think all three options are viable depending on the opponent. But whichever option we choose our river play has to be consistent with our turn decision.

I'm not convinced V calls flop for half pot with A-high, even AK, in a 4bet pot. For the same reasons I wouldn't stop betting the turn, it's a card which probably scares your opponent more than it scares you but unless you have reason to believe he'll call KK but folds JJ- (which isn't impossible) then he's likely to trip up in some way.

Preflop is OK, probably mix in some folds as well, flop I'd go a bit smaller

Why won’t you tell us what the river is? There is a difference between a deuce, a 9, and a jack.