GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread
GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread
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GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread

31 May 2013 at 02:31 PM
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by fallguy m

Wemby was lottery for 2 years until a ready-made all-star arrived (Fox), and another one developed (Castle).

So he's done nothing with his casts that MJ didn't do with similar casts, and of course MJ won 6 titles with weaker casts than the current Spurs.

Wemby didn't have the luxury of making playoffs at 38, 30, and 40 wins like MJ.


by TheGramuel m

Karl Malone doesn't have MJ in his all time starting 5 - https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-sc...

Many people put Lebron outside the top 5, while almost no one does for MJ except Isiah and Malone (2 guys that are mad about losing to MJ)


by bottomset m

Wemby didn't have the luxury of making playoffs at 38, 30, and 40 wins like MJ.

Wemby won 28 and 34 games in his first 2 years, so he's done nothing that MJ didn't do with similar casts, and of course MJ won 6 titles with weaker casts than the current Spurs.

So again, Wemby was lottery for 2 years until a ready-made all-star arrived (Fox), and another one developed (Castle).


He played 17 games for them last year, had 1 all-star appearance in 9 seasons, obviously way better than Pippen.


by bottomset m

He played 17 games for them last year, had 1 all-star appearance in 9 seasons, obviously way better than Pippen.

Fox was the best player in a series against the Warriors in 2023 and would've beaten Curry if he didn't get hurt and hobbled halfway through the series.

Meanwhile, Castle has reached levels in these playoffs that Pippen can only dream of.

Both Fox and Castle can average 25 outside the system and dominate, so they're closer to being franchise players than Pippen, who couldn't reach 15 ppg outside the system


Now that Wemby has been knocked out the playoffs, I'll need the Thunder to lose at least 2 games against NY for my theory to hold up.. This seems like the most likely scenario tbh


FG doesn't even know how many games a team needs to win to win a best of 7.


lol @ Isiah being upset at being beaten by Jordan.

Jordan was his bitch. 3 to 1 series wins.




by fidstar-poker m

FG doesn't even know how many games a team needs to win to win a best of 7.

Wemby is done - I told you - he can't score... And he isn't even facing max defensive attention because multiple teammates outscored him last game.

And now my theory will play out where a ball-dominator can't produce the best basketball (dynasty or dominant title run).

What will you say when the Thunder win the Finals in 6 or 7 and my theory proves right again?


by fidstar-poker m

lol @ Isiah being upset at being beaten by Jordan.

Jordan was his bitch. 3 to 1 series wins.

1990 ECF

Jordan..... 32 on 46.7%
Isiah........ 18 on 39.6%

^^^ Jordan destroyed Isiah like this 4 times.

Ultimately, Isiah is mad at MJ for 2 reasons:

1) MJ made Isiah cower and lose his greatness... i.e. MJ always maintained his greatness by congratulating the Pistons after losing, while Isiah was so embarrassed that he ducked out and couldn't look anyone in the eye.... It's a famous scene in NBA history - Isiah lost his greatness in that moment and it was Jordan that did it

2) Jordan ended the Pistons.. Specifically, despite Dumars and Rodman entering their prime, the Pistons were never competitive again - Jordan made the Pistons' obsolete by developing a superior finesse brand that made the Pistons physicality no longer competitive.


by fidstar-poker m

"The Decision" = the 07' run was a fluke and I actually CAN'T make the Finals

So you were duped.. Lebron can't make the Finals with normal rosters of 1 franchise player like everyone else does - the decision literally proved this.

Imagine if Jokic joined SGA and KAT, yet everyone was like "can you believe they won the conference again!???".. That's what you guys do with Lebron, and it's obvious fraud.. Lebron is a literal joke for needing to team up with opponents and opposing franchise players... a JOKE... That's the proper way to perceive him, and that's how you would perceive anyone else that did this... So again, you've been duped.

To summarize, Lebron couldn't make the Finals and had to join SGA, I mean Wade, and then add KAT, I mean Bosh.

^^^ this proves that Lebron is a fraud because he wasn't capable of making the Finals and needed to join opponents.


by fallguy m

Wemby is done - I told you - he can't score... And he isn't even facing max defensive attention because multiple teammates outscored him last game.

And now my theory will play out where a ball-dominator can't produce the best basketball (dynasty or dominant title run).

What will you say when the Thunder win the Finals in 6 or 7 and my theory proves right again?

You said Spurs in 5


ROOKIE HORRY............. starter
ROOKIE PIPPEN............ bench-warmer

2nd YEAR HORRY.......... 2nd-best player on title team & historic clutch performer
2ND YEAR PIPPEN......... bum

3RD YEAR HORRY........... played better in 95' Finals than Pippen ever played
3RD YEAR PIPPEN.......... historic "migraine" choke cost MJ title

FINALS

95' Horry...... 19.0 gamescore... 18/10/4/3/2 on 57 TS

92' Pippen.... 18.1 gamescore.... 21/8/7/2/1 on 56 TS
91' Pippen.... 17.5 gamescore.... 21/9/7/2/1 on 53 TS
93' Pippen.... 15.6 gamescore.... 20/9/8/2/1 on 46 TS
97' Pippen.... 15.1 gamescore.... 20/8/3/2/2 on 54 TS
96' Pippen.... 13.4 gamescore.... 16/7/5/2/1 on 43 TS
98' Pippen.... 13.0 gamescore.... 16/8/5/2/1 on 50 TS

This is gospel:

Let it sunk in... Watch it over and over again

Kenny Smith was an 18/7 guy that was 14th for MVP and one of the best clutch shooters ever... Accordingly, if Paxson was upgraded to Kenny, and then Horace was upgraded to Thorpe, and replace Pippen with Horry - this team would win more and easier than the crappy Bulls cast (basically Jordan would've won more and easier with Hakeem's cast)

Pippen cost Jordan titles from 88' to 90' by being horrible and many guys would've won in his place... For example, 2nd year Horry was the 2nd-best player on a title team, while 2nd year Pippen was a horrible joke that cost MJ the title.. Meanwhile, 3rd year Horry played better than Pippen ever did in the 95' Finals, while 3rd year Pippen was having the historic migraine choke..


by TheGramuel m

You said Spurs in 5

I quickly retracted that (due to the media's overreaction to Game 1)


Imagine if Jokic joined SGA and KAT, yet everyone was like "can you believe they won the conference again!???".. That's what the media did with Lebron, and it's obvious fraud.. He gets praised for making the Finals even though the "decision" proved that the 07' run was a fluke and he actually COULDN'T make the Finals - he needed to team up with opposing franchise players and couldn't make it with normal rosters of 1 franchise player like everyone else ... Teaming up proves that he can't make the Finals - it's simple... Anyone else would get laughed at for teaming up to make the Finals, so it's fraud that Lebron gets praised for it..

Ultimately, everyone has been duped into thinking a historic choker and perennial loser is infact the best ever .. It's a STUNNING fraud (stunning that people bought it).. The so-called goat is 1-30 on game-winners in recent years and has been a massive negative where his team gets destroyed when he's on the floor - it's called FRAUD folks..


Mike Brown just made the Finals without Lebron, yet there's no story about it and Brown is being ignored by the media.

Brown led a Nigerian team over our Dream Team, while turning around perennial losers like the Cavs, Kings and now the Knicks.

He's simply a Hall of Fame coach that Lebron enjoyed during his first playoff runs...

Accordingly, history shows that the all-star duo of Lebron/Zydrunas added a HOF coach and a 22/5/5 all-defender to make the 06' Playoffs - this is more help than MJ ever had.


Lebron never carried weak help over top teams because he never beat a top 5 SRS team with weak scoring and efficiency from a sidekick.

Lebron can't carry weak help over top teams because he can't carry the scoring load, aka excessive ball-dominance can't beat top teams...

Otoh, off-ball guys like Curry and MJ could maintain brand of ball at high scoring levels, thereby beating top teams while carrying the scoring load.. Their ability to carry the scoring load allows them to win with less offensive help, thereby building superior defensive rosters - their teams could win with defense because they were carrying the offense.


by fallguy m

Mike Brown just made the Finals without Lebron, yet there's no story about it and Brown is being ignored by the media.Brown led a Nigerian team over our Dream Team, while turning around perennial losers like the Cavs, Kings and now the Knicks.He's simply a Hall of Fame coach that Lebron enjoyed during his first playoff runs...

I have no idea what media you look at if you think that the Knicks making the Finals isn't being covered


by fidstar-poker m

I posted this comment on the YouTube page:

Imagine if Jokic joined SGA and KAT, yet everyone was like "can you believe they won the conference again!??"... This is how Lebron is treated, even though the "decision" proved that the 07' run was a fluke and Lebron actually COULDN'T make the Finals - he needed to put the top 3 scorers in the conference on 1 team, so it's amazing that he got props for winning the conference after that...

Essentially, anyone can make the Finals in theory because anyone can stack a team sufficiently.. This is why players need to make the Finals normally to get props for it.

Lebron obviously didn't do it normally because everyone in the league had normal rosters of 1 franchise player, while Lebron had "super-teams" of 3 franchise players and the preseason favorite for a record 6 straight years (11' to 16')..

However, the standard was for "bron-ball" to barely win 50 games with the preseason favorite, thereby falling to Finals underdog - aka Lebron's weak chemistry underachieved favored talent most years.. The weak chemistry stems from Lebron lowering everyone's assists and increasing their assisted rate (turning everyone into spot-up shooter, aka ball-dominance).. So the guy's a fraud that mostly lost even after stacking the deck because his Bron-ball chemistry was inferior.. The worst-ever chemistry has a lottery record on the championship level (22-33).


by TheGramuel m

I have no idea what media you look at if you think that the Knicks making the Finals isn't being covered

Is the Mike Brown aspect being covered?

He's now turned around perennial losers like the Cavs, Kings and Knicks.. He also led Nigeria over the Dream Team.

He's simply a Hall of Fame coach that Lebron enjoyed during his first playoff runs...

Accordingly, history shows that the all-star duo of Lebron/Zydrunas added a HOF coach and a 22/5/5 all-defender to make the 06' Playoffs - this is more help than MJ ever had.


Recent thread cliffs

* Mike Brown isn't being given flowers in order to keep lebron propped up (aka lebron had no help/coaching)

* The "decision" proved that Lebron couldn't make the Finals and the 07' run was a fluke.. Accordingly, the decision proved that Lebron actually CAN'T do what everyone gives him props for (making the Finals)

* The need to team up with opposing franchise players is the #1 proof of Lebron's inferiority, along with his lottery record on the championship level.

* Lebron's inclination to turn everyone into spot-up shooter - aka lowering everyone's assists and producing low assist teams - is a statistical foundation that shows why has has zero young player development (turns everyone into spot-up shooter).


Lebron never won a title without a shortened season or teammate bailout, and he never won with normal rosters of 1 franchise player.. So he has no real titles or accomplishments outside of media awards and career totals.

Furthermore, for him to win as the team's leading scorer, he needed 1st options and franchise players to play 2nd and 3rd option for him... Lebron's need for this type of unprecedented help is the OPPOSITE of goat.

Then there's the lottery record on the championship level, and zero young player development (turns everyone into spot-up shooter), and he's uncoachable (Bron-ball) .. And he can't make the Finals and needs to team-up... It's amazing so many people fell for such an obvious colluding, cheat code-using, flopping, soft, disloyal choker


Your theory is dumb no matter what.

Also a week back you said your theory didn't count any more, or some ****.


We should factor in somehow that after Jordan plays for a team, they never make the finals ever after he leaves. The team is forever cratered. Both the Bulls and Wizards decimated for decades.

A team left by LeBron has already made a finals. The Heat made the finals 8 years after he left. Only to run into LeBron himself to stop them from winning a title.

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