PAHWM - Mis-reg donks huge then gives up a tell.

PAHWM - Mis-reg donks huge then gives up a tell.

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23 June 2026 at 01:21 PM
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I played a similar hand this week against a similar talkative cocky villain. 100bb effective where I 3b KK vs villain's open then villain donk bet on QJ5 flop. I raised over his donk, villain called, villain x/c turn then open jammed river. My villain had AQ. Villain said my line of raising his flop bet was fishy. To my shame, adrenaline got the best of me and I talked **** to him as I stacked his chips.

Keep the solver input coming - Spanishmoon's suggestion of using solver data as a baseline then logical grounds to deviate is spot on IMO.


by submersible

idk im fine with everyones posts i just dont want to keep going in a circle so i stopped responding

Appreciate the solves, and the overall point, thanks.

IMHO, playing this game is like any other craft with a dose of artistic expression: cooking, music, painting, Garick's jewelry work, and so on. You need to have the basics down cold before you start coloring outside the lines. Solver work is the new way you learn the basics for NLHE.

I know I don't have the basics cold (but I'm getting better), because I usually don't have a decent instant answer to the global question, "What is our opponent(s)'s "correct" range here, and what is our current equity, as well as our actual and implied odds, versus our "correct" range and our exact holding." Which solver work educates you about.

I have a gut feeling, but usually not a, "It's about a 0.3bb mistake to fold, raise, call here," level of certainty. Given my understanding of the costs, at ~$1,000/year, that'd be 200bb over a year's play at 2/5. If that helped you save 0.5 bb/hand amortized, by avoiding theoretical facepalm-level errors, it'd pay for itself in 1-2 sessions. I think Spanish's rubric of how to use this data is the way to go.

Surprised V called off with QJ on the turn. Glad it worked wonderfully.


by Garick

If he's shoving all turns and we're calling all turns, calling flop is a disaster. It is equivalent to calling a flop shove. (DUCY?) And we'd be paying 45% of the pot with our 32% equity.

Yeah, bro. I said I thought I played it poorly.


by Garick

I mean, if we'd shoved flop we would have a non-zero amount of FE, but very few V's have an overbet donk/fold range, so I don't think there's much.

I think if a low stakes V takes this line at this stack depth, there's just zero fold equity, which is why I was thinking his range is too value-heavy before he started talking. Even his semi-bluffs should be very high equity. Overall, I don't like how I played it on the flop.

But if we think there's no fold equity on the flop, I doubt there's much on the turn, even when the board pairs, and probably even less when a BDFD appears.

Before I jammed, I was thinking about what my range might look like to him. I could have some combo draws or pair + draw combos, or even QJ trying to push him off a chop.


Fair enough. Heaven knows I've made some bad decisions when Vs confused me. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of why it was a mistake.

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