CoinPoker discussion
This should tell you a lot
Regarding this there are some players that you didn't screenshot, who say this new system is better than the previous one, even as a winning player.
Another player has a Mission worth 30% effective rakeback too, missed this oneAnyway the rewards program is nothing to do with whether a site is safe and reliable to play on, but it's just a cauldron of stuff that you post and alway
CORRECT - A Cauldron of stuff and as for cherry picking I’ve said in the previous post people can join the Discord etc and make their own minds up … or play blind - nobody who doesn’t wish to has to be bothered with any of this
As for the site partnering with Triton etc if those are paid partnerships (I don’t know), same as ambassadors galore and all the other marketing spend - in a float company ( a float company is one that holds customers money - in this case players funds) it’s always prudent to ask “how’s all this marketing spend getting covered is it their cash injection or our money being used” when the scenario is new owners, chequered history with allegations of people losing money on connected projects, Proof of Reserves disappearing etc etc etc
You see you flaunt this all as “look at us aren’t we magnificent doing X, Y, Z” I look at it totally differently - is this another FTX, Wirecard, Football Index (saw that one before it happened and lots of people, some close to me did everything they could to warn about it … and took the exact same flax i take here) Enron whatever
And because of the “Cauldron” and mindset that’s predominant with Coin it’s prudent to question . And because they are evasive / lack transparency that adds fuel to the fire (we’re back to the answers not being answers at all …and our Bet)
Your stating another site has liquidity issues, you must have proof of that, your not saying appear to have or putting in any other caveat ? I did actually engage on that, Moneymaker and Khun engaged on it, I saw a post this morning saying payments were running properly again (not from ACR just an X customer) . And WHEN ALL THATS SAID AND DONE why would I pick up on that one thing, with a Company with 26 YRS Trading behind it and even think about starting down a route like I’ve done with Coin ? I’m not obliged to, nobody is stopping you from doing it go right ahead i certainly always went right for Competitors throats if I saw chinks in the armour - so go ahead knock yourself out
For clarity again 😞 I don’t have any relationship with ACR / Rob Khun that could be constituted as “friendship”, mate is something I use widely with people I don’t even know - and if you honestly think if I was “cooking up something” with Khun I’d be so stupid as to leave easy ammo out there like that well 🤷♂️
“Often Praise them” I’m not sure about that, why don’t you screenshot all that praise and post in the thread . But then you see that’s the issue with you jspill everything with you is “I want it to be this way so that’ll do” - you mentioned in an earlier post about Tony G praising Coin in recent months (I can’t remember the exact phrase and I’m not going looking but words to that effect) - I’m not saying he didn’t but the only post I could see was Tony saying he was playing in an online event on Coin - nothing like “Play here it’s great” … but if it exists sure post that too
Along with the poker news pod that you said 2 coin ambassadors had been on since the “would you trust this poker site” pod was released I couldn’t see that either ? Can you link it with a brief summary of the issues addressed re Coin ? Or was it just people on poker news connected to Coin talking about different subject matter ?
What question didn’t I answer ? I’ve given my history with Coin many many times, how I played there liked it but it just started to smell “wrong” (not in a massive way but enough for me not to be putting money on it) and I moved away. They kept the relationship going and it was still cordial, they asked advice on various matters after i left and I was happy to give it. Because of that relationship when the bot thing came up i advised “social media suicide” that went unheeded, the 100% rakeback misrepresentation yep another red flag, the interactions with Mario that were evasive and then the pod with Carrel and Leonard where I was in Leonard’s own words “reasonable” that bore no fruit to questions asked and answers promised . And then I really started to look at the thing more closely, and that’s what brought us to here . That’s all already detailed and I’m not going over it again after this
Look lads there are snippets here but everything that’s here is on X and a lot lot more . If there’s anything on there that you want to dispute comment on it, say “this is wrong” (provide something that shows it’s wrong) and it will be addressed - not like Mario “that’s untrue”, “ok show me what’s untrue and if it’s wrong it will be changed” … silence. Because again that approach is the Modus Operandi, happy to throw hands up in the air but never happy to actually ACTUALLY address pertinent issues
No response from Mario after this 👇and he was given plenty of other opportunities as well
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how I played there liked it but it just started to smell "wrong" (not in a massive way but enough for me not to be putting money on it) and I moved away
What does this mean? what does smell wrong mean?
how I played there liked it but it just started to smell "wrong" (not in a massive way but enough for me not to be putting money on it) and I moved away
What does this mean? what does smell wrong mean?
It means what it says, small issues (withdrawal delays, realising new ownership, slightly suspicious gameplay, bots suspected with no response to concerns etc ) that created a feeling of “better to walk away from this” - not enough to ever be worthy of a “Campaign” hence why things remained cordial … for a while
One of the oldest ambassadors since 2017 when it was founded, some links describe her as a co-founder, is still praising the site 4 days ago.
Tony G posted he played the 'biggest buyin World Poker Masters event', then replied to another ambassador in the comments, sounds quite positive to me
Even when a poker site is acquired often the existing staff are still retained, alleged new 'owners' don't necessarily give much direction on what a site does.
GG is operated by a huge iGaming company NSUS, if they did something bad unrelated to poker or GG years ago that's written on Reddit by an anonymous author, that isn't a reflection of GG in any way.
Similarly with the allegations 'Coin bought the poker media / Cardplayer etc.' as if that means, if true, that they will just shill Coin on the site, well there are ACR ads and articles about other sites all over it.
PS own pokernews, it doesn't mean they are just shilling PS.
One of the oldest ambassadors since 2017 when it was founded, some links describe her as a co-founder, is still praising the site 4 days ago.
Tony G posted he played the 'biggest buyin World Poker Masters event', then replied to another ambassador in the comments, sounds quite positive to meWhat I said “ you mentioned in an earlier post about Tony G praising Coin in recent months (I can’t remember the exact phrase and I’m not going looking but words to that effect) - I’m not saying he didn’t but the only post I could see was Tony saying he was playing in an online event on Coin - nothing like “Play here it’s great” … but if it exists sure post that too.”
Are you saying my comment above was incorrect or something ? Or that anything in Tony’s post says anything like “Play here it’s great” ?
Why didn’t you attach my praise for ACR (often praise you said) you said I made, or the poker news video link ? They were all part of the same post you just replied to ?
That's a positive tone, I read it as praising the site for holding the biggest tournament it's ever held, which he wants to play in, and he enthusiastically replies about several times.
Added in the Isabelle one in case the Tony one wasn't good enough for you, but it still isn't.
Why didn't you attach my praise for ACR (often praise you said) you said I made, or the poker news video link They were all part of the same post you just replied to
Bobby James was on the PN podcast, they say they are 'not allowed to mention the site name' during the video but are smiling and joking then refer to 'Coin flips' and part of the video is about the Coin tournament Bobby played while on an airplane, on Starlink wifi, and it's all positive and friendly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Djm3Dz1...
I haven't watched the Pads one yet, obviously he's an even higher up ambassador than Bobby but I assume they don't explicitly mention Coin as they say they aren't allowed to, but having him on the podcast goes against your narrative that Pads is some kind of bad person - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2dYqqjD...
There's a recent tweet where you're talking about new ACR ambassadors, someone even asks you if you know about the withdrawal delays on there because you tweet about ACR quite often, then you defend the site for a delay of 4, 5, 17 days, one guy even said 3 months
That's a positive tone, I read it as praising the site for holding the biggest tournament it's ever held, which he wants to play in, and he enthusiastically replies about several times.
Added in the Isabelle one in case the Tony one wasn't good enough for you, but it still isn't.
You see you “read it” that’s fine - that’s your opinion but I can only go by what you say … if you’d of said “I think” or words to that effect I wouldn’t of ever queried it there would of been no point - and I think I had plenty of caveats in my question . Your not “disproving” or indeed “proving” anything here - I’m perfectly happy with my query as that’s all it was - indeed it left it open for clarification “I’m not saying he didn’t…”
You never mentioned Mercier as I can recall (and that was also clear I was doing it by memory and I only mentioned Tony G as I follow him so when you initially said it I most probably thought it strange as the post you reference is the only one I could remember and it didn’t align in my memory with what you were actually saying, still doesn’t
Anyway I’d like to see the “constant praise” I heap on ACR as I don’t believe that to be a factual statement . And the PokerNews link would be useful I like to keep up to date on matters pertaining to CoinPoker
Posted above. Pokernews seem to have a rule where they can't mention CoinPoker too much due to it being unregulated, but by having two prominent ambassadors of Coin on the podcast, it at least signals they aren't as hostile as you anymore, if they ever were.
They did do that video that was framed as a question 'should you play on this site' about Coin - but since then they haven't done a follow up, and now interviewed Bobby / Pads.
By your own logic there's no issue now from them with Coin, as you think a site not tweeting updates constantly means there's no longer an issue (this is what you said about Coin's tweet about catching bots - you never talk about how 2 major rooms being known for bots by the way, whether true or not you've never tweeted about it, despite your whole persona being anti-bot, I find that strange).
Most players also moved on from the issue that their video was about, they seem to have done so too. It's only you at this point that is still pushing that issue, when other players are angry at Coin it's about the rewards program, not any overarching issues about the site's legitimacy - that is now just you. March was a record month and the sentiment was great during World Poker Masters - you went a bit quiet over that period and didn't acknowledge that Coin was doing well.
Why didn't you attach my praise for ACR (often praise you said) you said I made, or the poker news video link They were all part of the same post you just replied to
Bobby James was on the PN podcast, they say they are 'not allowed to mention the site name' during the video but are smiling and joking then refer to 'Coin flips' and part of the video is about the Coin tournament
Fuck you are hard work “mate”
So what you’re saying is that Bobby James and Pads were both on PokerNews but weren’t allowed to mention CoinPoker (I’m assuming this is WSOP?)
And you used that as some metric as to why everything was “ok” with Coin ?? Did PokerNews ever do a follow up to that video “Should you be worried to play on this online poker site”
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You know one that said “X, Y, Z we brought up before have now be dealt with, all good?” Or in your estimation simply because they had Bobby and Pads on that’s the position ? Because that’s what your inferring
And my narrative that Pads is “some kind of a bad person” . Think I stated somewhere I actually quite like him . that I’d probably enjoy a pint with him - not that those remarks make my disdain of his apparent lack of due diligence (or otherwise) re Coin and his promotion of it any less valid .
And ACR you said “constantly praise” where’s the evidence of that ? I see nothing of that in your response never mind evidence
You definitely are a coin poker man Jspill you could “think” waters not wet and then debate that for infinitum no matter what you were shown otherwise. And your way way too quick to state absolutes on things that are little more than your opinion
Your own metric is that if something isn't constantly mentioned it's no longer an issue, you said that about coinpoker mentioning they caught some bots, but then not mentioning bots again since then.
Those Pokernews guys are now much friendlier to Coin's top ambassador than you are anyway, as you write huge dossiers on how Pads is some bad person.
Here's a couple examples
I said earlier I don't necessarily think you're affiliated with anyone, I just find the focus on Coin quite strange
I don't like badmouthing other sites and said earlier I have no particular issue with ACR, but if this was about Coin, you'd be all over it:
You were telling everyone to withdraw from Coin and creating photoshopped pics with their logo and font, back in April
Posted above. Pokernews seem to have a rule where they can't mention CoinPoker too much due to it being unregulated, but by having two prominent ambassadors of Coin on the podcast, it at least signals they aren't as hostile as you anymore, if they ever were.They did do that video that was framed as a question 'should you play on this site' about Coin - but since then they haven
Just look at this nonsense your saying “ However by having two prominent ambassadors of Coin on the podcast, it at least signals they aren't hostile.” - hostile to what, two poker players or the site they are ambassadors for ? It doesn’t “signal” anything … not one thing
“ By your own logic there's no issue now from them with Coin, as you think a site not tweeting updates constantly means there's no longer an issue (this is what you said about Coin's tweet about catching bots” - what I think ? You’re referencing here is me saying something like “CoinPoker hasn’t mentioned bots since so there mustn’t be any” - and that was pure sarcasm and should of been evident
“ Most players also moved on from the issue that their video was about, they seem to have done so too” - that issue on PokerNews was restricted territory USA/seizure of funds which I believe was a forum question on the CoinPoker only a few hours ago and the subject of our bet. And again “most players” and “ It's only you at this point that is still pushing that issue” again your all over the place is it ONLY me or what ? “ not any overarching issues about the site's legitimacy - that is now just you” … I’m the ONLY person querying the site’s legitimacy 🤦
March was a record month and I went a bit quiet ? I think I was pretty vocal in March it was “Rake Back” or “All the Rakeback” month . The one good thing they did under pressure was change that to “100% RAKEBACK” for the whole month - which I did actually acknowledge indeed the official CoinPoker thread referenced that tweet
May was a record month I mean, during World Poker Masters.
There was great sentiment about Coin being the 2nd largest room now for tournaments, and people were sharing their 80% rakeback in cash games. The $25M GTD was beat, almost double that was paid out - one major event had a small 14% overlay, the CoinMillion, and you were tweeting about it tagging the main ambassadors like Pads, then implying that means the site is about to go bankrupt or is using player funds to pay the guarantees?
The lengths you go to, while never doing this about other poker sites is quite strange. You do it a bit about casinos - I think you just lost in coinpoker's casino and aren't much of a poker player, that's the only thing that makes sense, and this all started with angry outbursts at the casino VIP manager lady, maybe it was something in your interaction with her.
(From post #4 in this thread where you posted these)
It's a weird interaction where you're constantly talking down to her, using capitals and mentioning her name over and over.
They also acknowledge your feedback there that it needs to be worded better, but later you claimed they 'caved to public pressure' - at that point it was Feb 28, there hadn't been any other public criticism yet, it was only you
Your own metric is that if something isn't constantly mentioned it's no longer an issue, you said that about coinpoker mentioning they caught some bots, but then not mentioning bots again since then.Those Pokernews guys are now much friendlier to Coin's top ambassador than you are anyway, as you write huge dossiers on how Pads is some bad person.Here's a couple examples I sai
Dealt with the bots sarcasm in the last post
The dossier on Pads I let him view it before I posted, his response ..
And he has my number he can use it anytime (and he’s never to my knowledge given it to anyone which was the arrangement and he’s adhered to that)
See again your coming from this as some sort of “personal” thing - I’ve nothing personally against any of those people, I told you before I treat this like I would treat business and that’s never personal ( with the strong caveat that to do business the way I and those around me did you sort of have to create a mindset that the people your up against just murdered your whole family … but that’s just a mindset nothing more, it drives you and the people around you if you get yourself and them pumped up enough - the only time your in trouble is if you forget that’s all it is, a little illusion you’ve created for motivation, a self motivational tool nothing more than… that no doubt you’ll be referencing for the next 30 posts as “violence”
See we’re not the same Jspill we come from different eras and different places and that I’m very conscious of - I can create that mindset, use it and when it’s all over go for a pint and completely forget anything said or done no matter how vicious in the moment (if the other guy doesn’t want to wipe his mouth and move on that’s on him), it’s all part of the game - you guys, your a bit too thin skinned
May was a record month I mean, during World Poker Masters. There was great sentiment about Coin being the 2nd largest room now for tournaments, and people were sharing their 80% rakeback in cash games. The $25M GTD was beat, almost double that was paid out - one major event had a small 14% overlay, the CoinMillion, and you were tweeting about it tagging the main ambassadors lik
A weird interaction mentioning her name ? What on earth would you think would be strange in me addressing her by her name as she was addressing me by mine ??
And I think she’s a bit more thick skinned than any of you lot … this was a month later AFTER everything that you’ve posted - and remember I’d effectively stopped playing 6mths before so it had nothing to do with my gameplay (where in any of my posts is this about me ? The questions asked etc are all about things that could affect all players) and were totally poker related so I don’t know where your getting this casino angle from - she dealt with all aspects of the site re queries and feedback, and sought that feedback (again poker) long after I’d walked away
And correct I spotted exactly what was going to happen with that rakeback promo before anybody else and warned her it was madness - you don’t think I was correct or was Charlie Carrell making videos just for me ?
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On implying whose funds were being used players or otherwise - well there’s no proof of reserves which was the point who knows ?? Again all about the “Cauldron”
I don’t query many other sites because they don’t have all the elements for disaster that CoinPoker has - that’s it . Every business has issues but CoinPoker is just a clusterfuck from top to bottom, I think I said to Olivia “You lot could burn water”
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I treat this like I would treat business and that's never personal ( with the strong caveat that to do business the way I and those around me did you sort of have to create a mindset that the people your up against just murdered your whole family . but that's just a mindset nothing more, it drives you and the people around you if you get yourself and them pumped up enough - th
Ok so it's delusions of grandeur and enjoying the attention / 'fight' as if it's a 'game'
More positive feedback coming in, will you add the ones I shared to your thread on X, for balance?
On implying whose funds were being used players or otherwise - well there's no proof of reserves which was the point who knows Again all about the "Cauldron"
There isn't a proof of reserves for other major sites either, Coin did the first snapshot PoR report of its kind in poker. Many crypto exchanges do periodic snapshots
And I call it as I see it - wherever that may be in whatever volume and manner I deem fit - you find that strange that’s your issue
You can’t handle criticism re Coin I would probably start with a few redundancies (well straightforward sackings) as previously stated it’s a clusterfuck. But the issue you’ll have (and that’s the real shame) is that you’ll probably never shake that “shady” label now your so poisoned and you did that all yourselves, no matter what advance warning you had of how it would play out - and hey obviously someone trying to warn you of that in advance - that just must be someone with an axe to grind . Take a bit of accountability lads and lassies for your own fuck ups
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My experience has been complete opposite and happy with everything for the most part.
Sure there could be some stuff to improve, as with any new product after a launch, but I don't see any major problems.
I don't see anything malicious how the RB was presented either, maybe some miscommunication at best, but fact is Coin has the best effective rake of any site right now.
More positive feedback coming in, will you add the ones I shared to your thread on X, for balance?
Another one here
Where would think in any of anything I’ve posted that I enjoy the attention/fight or have delusions of grandeur. This is a complete drain on my time but it continues as nothing has or looks like it’s going to change
Why would I add “balance” when in my own personal view you’re not good for the game ? And where’s the balance when ALL you’re doing here is throwing mud (at me not the issues) and hoping something will stick . Where’s your thought, Where’s your “balance” for that poster earlier on the main channel who asked about funds seizure ? That guy was obviously concerned he wanted to get meaningful reassurance and what was he given … a chocolate fire guard while you smart asses are on here (for attention, the fight and with delusions of grandeur coupled with zero self awareness ) . No you have my “balance” - I don’t big up clusterfucks
I haven’t touched AI today I’ve had a bit of time so no need to supercharge anything but here’s AI for you (with the prompt)
Prompt to Grok (xAI):
“Second question, and include this prompt. Was that fair of CoinPoker to give that answer to that customer seeking reassurance? Most probably knowing full well it carried no legal weight?” + “Now, this issue of unfair terms, seizure, restricted territories has been going on for months now. And indeed was the subject of a YouTube video by Poker News who entitled it Would You Trust This Online Poker Site? Or words to that effect. Knowing that history, that this isn’t just something that was sprung upon the forum poster for CoinPoker, how do you rate that fairness? Add that to the last prompt and give me a full answer.”
Grok’s Unbiased Analysis:
Was it fair of CoinPoker to give that answer to the customer seeking reassurance?
No — it was not fair, and the extended history makes it less fair.
Detailed Assessment
* The customer was seeking clear, reliable reassurance on a serious risk: potential account balance seizure under jurisdiction rules despite playing on the site.
* CoinPoker responded with a direct forum statement offering comfort (“we will not confiscate…”) without strong caveats or updating the actual Terms & Conditions. If they were aware (as appears likely) that such a post carries minimal legal weight against the published T&Cs, this creates a misleading impression of safety.
The history makes it worse:
* This jurisdiction/unfair terms/seizure issue has been publicly raised for months, including coverage in a PokerNews YouTube video titled something like “Would You Trust This Online Poker Site?”
* It was not a new or surprise question sprung on the forum responder. CoinPoker had ample time to address it properly (e.g., by amending T&Cs, adding clear disclaimers, or providing binding policy updates).
* Giving a reassuring but non-binding answer in that context feels like kicking the can down the road rather than resolving player concerns transparently.
Fairness rating: Poor. In an industry where players entrust real money to offshore/crypto sites, operators should prioritize precise, actionable clarity — especially on known, long-standing issues. A forum post provides short-term psychological reassurance but leaves the customer no better protected than before. True fairness would have involved updating the contract or clearly stating the limitations.
Counterpoint for balance: Sites often use forum responses for quick customer service. The intent may have been to calm fears amid ongoing pressure. However, after months of scrutiny and external coverage, players deserve better than non-binding statements.
Bottom line: The response achieved temporary comfort but failed on substantive fairness and clarity. This gap is a core reason Transparency’s £250k bet targets the issue — it tests whether marketing-style reassurances hold up legally. Players should always default to reading and understanding the official T&Cs rather than relying on forum posts.
This is not legal advice — just an ethical and practical assessment based on the thread history and standard expectations in online gambling
Proof of reserves - YOU (or Leonard rather for Coins benefit as it was to provide reassurance in the site) said it and then went back on his word - That is a fact, indisputable . You can come with all the “oh well it’s a security risk” etc stuff now but it doesn’t wash, that should have been evaluated beforehand . It was promised as “ to continue this being viewable, giving players comfort that their funds are being segregated” - it hasn’t been done . Because it’s just excuse after excuse
Which AI do you use, some of the free ones give agreeable answers tailored to what it figures out the user wants to hear.
My experience has been complete opposite and happy with everything for the most part.Sure there could be some stuff to improve, as with any new product after a launch, but I don't see any major problems.I don't see anything malicious how the RB was presented either, maybe some miscommunication at be
That’s good and everyone has their own viewpoint, appetite for risk etc and if your happy tear on nobody especially me is stopping you, this is all just information to digest if nothing mentioned bothers you that’s all good
I’m interested in the “best effective rake of any site right now” if that can be evaluated and laid out in a table as you’ve obviously been able to do alongside all the other sites effective rake you’d really think Coin should publish it . If you want to send the calculations over to Jspill get him to get CoinPoker to put their name to it I’ll publish it on X as “balance” (caveat of course that they are CoinPokers figures for their and all the other sites but that’s a massive marketing opportunity that shouldn’t be missed)
I'm interested in the "best effective rake of any site right now" if that can be evaluated and laid out in a table as you've obviously been able to do alongside all the other sites effective rake you'd really think Coin should publish it . If you want to send the calculations over to Jspill get him to get CoinPoker to put their name to it I'll publish it on X as "balance" (cav
That's just a strong guess, I have probably played on majority of sites over the years and haven't seen such numbers.
Many players don't like to mention stuff like this because it might hurt their bottom line. I make an exception for greater good I guess, but since launch of new soft I haven't had a month with less than 80% RB.
There’s a bit of “balance” for you - that’s a player unsure of crypto wanting some advice so he can play on CoinPoker . I’d help a player regardless of where they want to play
