CoinPoker debate

CoinPoker debate

This should tell you a lot

We can also do this - Q+A on X back and Forth or I might consider a live stream Q+A with the

20 April 2026 at 03:41 PM
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Earlier posts are available on our legacy forum HERE

by Transparency

I'm sure you're aware some guy under the new system who plays sporadically might get next to nothing and your earlier statement doesn't allow for those variables

Fair enough, but that's the case with most sites nowadays. There are very few places that offer flat % rb regardless of volume and if they do it's quite small number.


by jspill
by Transparency

some guy under the new system who plays sporadically might get next to nothing

Bumhunters / ratholers who only play when there's a recreational they have position on, also get next to nothing, this incentivizes those players that are bad for the game to stay at the tables to place on the leaderboard. Leaderboards are only 2 hours in length now and very easy to place on, it's rat

What the least % effective rake someone can get with the worst optimisation of the rewards ?


by Transparency

some guy under the new system who plays sporadically might get next to nothing

Bumhunters / ratholers who only play when there's a recreational they have position on, also get next to nothing, this incentivizes those players that are bad for the game to stay at the tables to place on the leaderboard.

Leaderboards are only 2 hours in length now and very easy to place on, it's rather difficult to get nothing, and a recreational that plays sporadically can still get easy to clear Missions based on their volume.

by Transparency

(and I wish someone would educate Jspill)

Physics grad at one of the best unis in the world, if you've been looking into my history you'll have found that probably


Damn dude. Had no idea alec torelli was a physics grad.


Mike Haven

You intimated I could read threads the other evening

What’s happening here is when you edit/merge threads they don’t appear on this version of the site. So they aren’t visible to me and others - I just got another forum user to check

That other version I can’t log into and I told you that before - same credentials I use on this version and they are rejected .

So when you ask me why I’m posting the same stuff again it’s because it’s not visible - which is why I thought the other evening posts were deleted

Why have two different versions ? Maybe there’s some tech reason for that but surely it’s no good when you edit/merge if those posts are then hidden from view for those users on this version ?

You’ll see clearly here how the thread flows on one version to the other - it appears to be the bit you’ve merged gets “lost” on this version ?

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So this whole piece is now hidden on this version




It also double posts pictures sometimes even though they are only added once ?


by Transparency

What the least % effective rake someone can get with the worst optimisation of the rewards

The leaderboards are around 50%, so subtract that from 80% in cashmanni's case if he suddenly decided to play sporadically.

He'd still get Splash Pots as those are random, and Missions, some players are actually getting 100% from Missions, only seen one like this though so far:


Others are getting 20% - 30% in those, but I'd assume a player that doesn't play much would be offered a larger amount to incentivize them to play.



Yeah I know a lad he’s a scientist (came out of one of the top 2 universities in the U.K.)

And he’s good in a lab, complete disaster at everything he touches business wise

You should put that knowledge to work, that all encompassing skill set you must be intimating (because I referenced facts re opinion and that was obviously covered in your Physics as would of been contract law and all the other skills in life/business)

And did I really pay taxes (no matter what way it’s done no one to my knowledge who’s gone through university in the uk has purely paid their own way with zero public contribution ) for you to clear off to Thailand to play poker / educate people how to dodge immigration laws and dupe banking institutions? Is that what my money went on …. What a waste


by Transparency

And did I really pay taxes (no matter what way it's done no one to my knowledge who's gone through university in the uk is purely paying their own way with zero public contribution ) for you to clear off to Thailand to play poker / educate people how to dodge immigration laws and dupe banking institutions Is that what my money went on .. What a waste

The things I posted are bog standard advice all over expat forums, from dudes out here with or without a degree tbh, not sure what the faux outrage about that article was all about.

It's from 11 years ago, just for you I will go and update it to mention CoinPoker so you can pad out your dossier a bit more.


by jspill
by Transparency

And did I really pay taxes (no matter what way it's done no one to my knowledge who's gone through university in the uk is purely paying their own way with zero public contribution ) for you to clear off to Thailand to play poker / educate people how to dodge immigration laws and dupe banking institutions Is that what my money went on .. What a waste

The things I posted are bog

Good lad any help is always appreciated 👍


by Transparency

Mike Haven You intimated I could read threads the other evening What's happening here is when you edit/merge threads they don't appear on this version of the site. So they aren't visible to me and others - I just got another forum user to check That other version I can't log into and I told you that before - same credentials I use on this version and they are rejected .So when

If anyone else is reading this thread, do you have the same problem, or is it unique to Transparency? Can you not read the "old" forum's thread at https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/di...


by Mike Haven

If anyone else is reading this thread, do you have the same problem, or is it unique to Transparency? Can you not read the "old" forum's thread at https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/di...

This link here works fine Mike, the earlier one however didnt show the same. No idea what/why that happened, just answering your question pal.


That works


Don’t have a clue if or how you attach screen recording here but I’ve posted it on this X burner account so you can view - thread still incomplete on my end, on the other version it shows as per below

https://x.com/fintecfail/status/2073145867259854880?s=46&t=zFsbCrKAVQfkimbZvSEy-A


by TeddyD

This link here works fine Mike, the earlier one however didnt show the same. No idea what/why that happened, just answering your question pal.

Thx. Which earlier one, so I can check it?


by Mike Haven
by TeddyD

This link here works fine Mike, the earlier one however didnt show the same. No idea what/why that happened, just answering your question pal.

Thx. Which earlier one, so I can check it?

Well using this link
https://www.twoplustwo.com/Discussion-of-Poker-Sites/13ve8/CoinPoker-discussion?page=6

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Does not include this whole post - it’s easy to see as these screenshots etc don’t appear
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Dudes like some 60 yr old boomer butthurt coz he lost in the casino


by BigBananas

Dudes like some 60 yr old boomer butthurt coz he lost in the casino

See there it is again - a few select accounts always reply with the personals - not interested in the discussion that matters - neither of your assertions are correct btw and nothing said by me ever even suggested anything like that .

You’ve seen documented evidence of me warning about going down certain routes with marketing that went unheeded and the mess that unfolded - and you somehow want to promote now I have some axe to grind ? That’s weird why would someone with that agenda try to help out end of February when they effectively walked away September the previous year ? (Jspill incorrectly stated that I said they “bowed to public pressure in February re 100% rakeback - wrong timeline I warned the minute that came out of how it would be received, that warning proved valid, players went mad, as per Carrels video “players are fuming” exactly as I’d pre warned and then mid month they capitulated to public pressure - that’s just factual)

It’s the lazy overused excuse always used “oh guy must be a sore loser, dismiss what he’s saying”

Problem is they are all valid across the board player concerns (or should be) - nothing is specific to me so why make it about me ?

Take the latest incident big bananas - guy comes on yesterday looking for reassurance and a clear position on the status re USA play - something that’s been the topic of conversation for months now . And what does he get ? A forum reply “no we won’t confiscate” that is totally worthless. He feels better but he’s no further protected than he was before he asked the question.

Why if that is the true position and players were concerned, PokerNews were doing videos etc etc don’t they just change the terms? And none of you want pulled up on that - “oh transparency/ Pokerbots just trying to create FUD”

As it says there 👇 5min fix to create the same legal framework as was stated (but is worthless) in the forum reply

But that doesn’t matter to you big bananas you just want to focus on some perceived agenda that doesn’t exist. There is no valid answer as to why they won’t do it, and worse they actually tightened up those terms before they started their marketing push this year in USA - but hey that’s just coincidence


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by Transparency

Well using this link
https://www.twoplustwo.com/Discussion-of...

The post following this ... Does not include this whole post - it's easy to see as these screenshots etc don't appear ...

Yes. I see that the second post, successfully merged with the first post in the old forum format, has been software-deleted in the new forum format. I have reported the bug to TPTB and undeleted the post. (Though who knows what knock-on effect that will have in the matrix?)

Perhaps the best quick fix for you is to use the old forum format? There has to be something very simple that you can do to log in to https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/di..., as everyone else does it, both manually and automatically. Can you PM me to explain exactly what is going wrong for you? (Let me know when you PM, in case you do something simple wrong there, too. Thanks.)


And on that specific point and the fact you get the “oh our terms are the same as the other companies” and Jspill keeps asking about ACR (who have 26 yrs history, and as far as I’m aware squared everyone off after Black Friday and other incidents etc etc etc) here’s a comparison in the two positions . And I won’t be doing comparisons in the future I’m just capping off that specific point - and I won’t be “going after” ACR GG or anyone else on the horizon unless maybe I see the “cauldron of stuff” and the “mindset” I see with the cluster**** that is CoinPoker … oh and under no requirement to do so either
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by Mike Haven
by Transparency

Well using this link https://www.twoplustwo.com/Discussion-of...The post following this ... Does not include this whole post - it's easy to see as these screenshots etc don't appear ...

Yes. I see that the second post, successfully merged with the first post in the old forum format, has been software-deleted in the new forum format. I have reported the bug to TPTB and undeleted the post. (Though who knows what knock-on e

Ok - so when I asked the other night Mike why posts were being deleted as I couldn’t see them?, natural assumption?) I got met with this ?




Your telling me nothing has been deleted and that I’m unable to read threads “either” - the either I’m unsure of the context ?

When what actually had happened was as per your tweet they had been “deleted” when the editing had been done - so it was a totally valid question and observation and it was met with disdain??

You then comment “who knows what effect that will have on the matrix” which I assume is an impication that the thread would somehow become even more screwed up ? Someone responding to that given the previous responses in the sarcastic tone given would probably say “do you not know how to manage thread right?” It would be the exact same tone and context but would actually be directed at the party that was responsible for the error

There is nothing “simple” I can do to gain access to the other version . I mentioned this before, again the tone “in case you do something simple wrong there, too” . What exactly could I be doing wrong I’m using the exact same credentials to log into both, works fine here it’s rejected on the other version ? And do something simple wrong there too - what have I done simple wrong before these errors aren’t down to me? Only thing missing from this is the middle section as it contains the email address but I’ve no reason to be telling you I can’t use credentials and log in ? It’s just what’s happening, reported weeks ago and nothing has changed .
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Possibly (just a suggestion) as the error on your side appears to raise its head when you edit/merge is simply not to do that until you find out what’s causing the bug - no tech expert but logically it would work

But with all that said and done I just don’t think it’s fair moderation, granted frustration (from the same perceived issue in the past) maybe hasn’t been handled so well but all I’m looking for is a fair shake here - this thread descends into personal’s when it’s really supposed to be about issues - those issues are dodged by that behaviour or/and “non answers” by the CoinPoker brigade - and it’s that attitude that brought about “Transparency/ Pokerbots” in the first place


Transparency

I know that you might find the following instructions difficult, but please try them. I have tried to make them as simple as possible:

1. Change your password in the new forum format.
2. Log in to the new forum format with it, so that you know it works there.
3. Log out.
4. Shut down and reboot your computer/phone.
5. Try to log in to the old forum format with it.
6. If it doesn't work, use the "Forgotten your password?" method to change your password in the old forum format to the same new password that you created in the new forum format.

Please let me know the results in another series of screenshots. I'll wait here for a few minutes.

Thank you.


Transparency

I'm sorry that you think I feel only disdain or contempt for your posts. The written word does sometimes give a different slant on the intended meaning behind them, as I'm sure you know full well.


by Mike Haven

Transparency

I'm sorry that you think I feel only disdain or contempt for your posts. The written word does sometimes give a different slant on the intended meaning behind them, as I'm sure you know full well.

😂😂 Fair play Mike 😉


by Mike Haven

TransparencyI know that you might find the following instructions difficult, but please try them. I have tried to make them as simple as possible:1. Change your password in the new forum format. 2. Log in to the new forum format with it, so that you know it works there.3. Log out.4. Shut down and reboot your computer/phone.5. Try to log in to the old forum format with it.6. If

Mike where do you change password - id usually go to “privacy and security” but there’s nothing in that for password change or any of the others or any specific tab ?





by Transparency

Mike where do you change password - id usually go to "privacy and security" but there's nothing in that for password change or any of the others or any specific tab

I don't know. I have never tried to do it. I assumed it would be there. (The new style forum is still being perfected as glitches and bugs are discovered. There are threads about it in the About The Forums forum.)

In this case, try logging out, and logging in with an incorrect password. I assume there will be a "Forgotten your password?" method that pops up. That would do the same thing, in effect.

Edit: See https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55/ab...

Perhaps your difficulty is covered there?

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