AQo in the BB facing BTN Raise
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V (covers) is same as previous post: a regular who loses thousands monthly with a VPIP/RFI/3B of 35/10/3. Postflop, she’s a calling station. She’s highly aware. She picks up tells, including the hero’s glance at the board when he hit the high hand. She adjusts her ranges according to position. She might read the hero better than anyone on the table. Her leak is she likes to play many hands and see people’s cards.
OTTH
LJ open-limps. CO Limps. V raises 15 OTB. Hero in BB with AhQc. Hero?
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Assuming the SB folded, I propose raising to something like 50. There's 25 in the pot pre-rake. V can be very wide from BTN. The best result is taking this down preflop with the high rake.
It sounds like you aren't that comfortable playing her postflop and she is raising a fairly strong range, so I would call and hope to make TPTK/TPGK against weaker As or Qs. Don't mind playing against the limpers, bad players with bad hands.
I'm ok with either a squeeze of flat. If squeezing, I would go pretty large because multiple opponents and we are OOP -- $70 or $75.
I think the argument for flatting is compelling (BU range is strong, limpers can still back raise, BU villain will pay us off if we hit TPTK).
Do you work on giving false tells? I do this ~frequently against opponents who actively look for tells. Breaking eye contact is an easy one; sitting rigid in your seat and staying silent is another (as opposed to sitting back comfortably and conversing).
60, fold to a raise.
You could min-click it just to push out the limpers and get it HU.
On the flop, I'd probably check range to her.
As evidenced by my recent post with basically the exact same scenario I prefer to iso to 60. A player would have to be insanely tight for me to not iso their button open over two limps with AQo and I don't think %10 rfi fits this bill.
Hand continues
LJ open-limps. CO Limps. V raises 15 OTB. Hero in BB with AhQc. Hero? Hero raises to 60. Only V calls.
Flop (131) 557r
Hero?
Hand continues
LJ open-limps. CO Limps. V raises 15 OTB. Hero in BB with AhQc. Hero? Hero raises to 60. Only V calls.
Flop (131) 557r
Hero?
I’m checking here, strictly because she’s a station. I like big flop bets, but without fold equity, I’d rather see what she does
…and maybe cut out a hundred and play with it looking at villain with a nice relaxed smile. It’s time you start reading her…
Then slowly pull it back (unless you do get an ‘uninterested’ tell) and tap the table. I would try not to talk facing someone that can read me.
Backing up
I don’t like a lot of raising from the BB
I’d rather defend vs a ‘wide’ button range in a small pot. I especially don’t like your raise if it’s likely she calls. If you can’t take it down (no rake) pre-flop, then why play a mediocre hand, oop aggressively?
Good so far. I'm doing a lot of checking here.
My head is exploding from how bad Freecard's post is. AQo is a mediocre hand bb vs btn guys.
A button open raising range is very different from a button range raising over two limps. AQo is plenty enough to 3bet but it's not some sort of fistpumping monster.
Hand continues
LJ open-limps. CO Limps. V raises 15 OTB. Hero in BB with AhQc. Hero? Hero raises to 60. Only V calls.
Flop (131) 557r
Hero?
In fairness to you, I've probably recommended someone min-click in this forum about 10x more than I've found that action in game. That said, while I think it's fine to 3B AQo, I also think it's important to understand all our incentives, and how best to serve them.
We have competing incentives here. On the one hand, we don't really want to play AQo first to act in a four-way pot. On the other hand, we'd also prefer not to bloat the pot by raising big if we know she's likely to not only call pre, but also get sticky post.
I think a min-click works really well here, pre-flop, as a way to split the baby. We can push the two limpers to fold, and keep the SPR more manageable when she calls.
I already said I'd probably check range to her on the flop, before knowing the cards. I don't see any reason to deviate from that strategy here.
My reasoning is that it sounds like she's a loose-passive player who won't have much if any bluffing frequency on the flop. She's probably not bluffing on this board. But she's also probably not folding if we bet. If we check to her, she may check back, opening the door for us to probe bet the turn. If she bets, her bet sizing may telegraph her hand strength.
Assuming she checks back and the turn is any card Q or higher, I probably still wouldn't bet. I think I'd just do a lot of checking to her, even with value. If the turn is a 9 or lower, I might start a bluff. I think her range is likely to be too high-card heavy.
Otherwise, I think we can continue checking, and possibly steal the pot by over-betting the river if she checks back again.
Alternatively, if you check this flop to her, and she bets small, I might float and evaluate turn. If she bets more than 1/2 pot, I'm out.
