The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet
Another geopolitics expert. Yet anyone who studies the war in Ukraine like I do would know that Germany military systems are absolutely excellent and they have been one of europe's absolute leaders in supporting Ukraine.
Like do you really not think the government consider these brilliant logical points you are raising?
ya I know all about that. Its not their freakin ships tho. its a land war wtf are you talking about. Germany is not a naval power korea is. They are surrounded by china and north korea and have a top 5 navy in the world. Germany is ranked 19th . Thats also ignonig that korea is the western aligned leader in non military production and germany has no industry.
South Korea ranks second globally in vessel production and shipbuilding volume, right behind China, which holds the top spot. While China leads in overall volume and bulk orders, Korea holds about 20-28% of the global market share and dominates the construction of high-value, eco-friendly vessels like LNG carriers and ultra-large container ships.
Their pzh 2000 have been a disaster tho france's equipment has performed way better then Germanys even in ukraine
Like what are we talking about here making leopard tanks is not the same as making submarines. Take the L on this one time
ya I know all about that. Its not their freakin ships tho. its a land war wtf are you talking about. Germany is not a naval power korea is. They are surrounded by china and north korea and have a top 5 navy in the world. Germany is ranked 19th . Thats also ignonig that korea is the western aligned leader in non military production and germany has no industry.South Korea ranks s
Stop now you can't expect to use logic on Uke
ya I know all about that. Its not their freakin ships tho. its a land war wtf are you talking about. Germany is not a naval power korea is. They are surrounded by china and north korea and have a top 5 navy in the world. Germany is ranked 19th . Thats also ignonig that korea is the western aligned leader in non military production and germany has no industry.South Korea ranks s
The confidence of this post is dazzling. Take the L Carney, take it! Moving Target used chatgpt to search for a couple stats so OBVIOUSLY you made the wrong choice in which military submarine platform to purchase. If only Carney had been informed of these facts, we could have been saved. Unless, of course, the Canadian military assessed that both platforms would satisfy the needs of the Canadian military.
what's your point zero facts refuted.
like the correct thing to say is something like "well Germany is in nato so its good to do this for politics" or" well korea is more aligned to the us so it defeats the point of seperating from them"
Its obvious they chose the inferior maker for political reasons and honestly I could be talked into that being ok because buying subs is all political anyway they won't be useful so you may as well make an allie happy .
The korean supplier was reported to be much quicker for production timelines and to add more jobs domesticly.
Your better then this lozen was right I don't believe it!
Lmao at the armchair military procurement expert who is endlessly confident that inferiority is "obvious", as if you remotely have the capabilities to judge the military capabilities of an advanced submarine like this and the numerous geopolitical, economic, and strategic additional effects. I'm not trying to refute facts because I'm not making a claim that one of the subs is better for Canada than the other - only you thinks it is obvious one is inferior. I've been upfront I don't have the breadth of experience required to meaningfully evaluate this. So I'm just lolling at you guys ITT who so confidently proclaim you can.
Lmao at the armchair military procurement expert who is endlessly confident that inferiority is "obvious", as if you remotely have the capabilities to judge the military capabilities of an advanced submarine like this and the numerous geopolitical, economic, and strategic additional effects. I'm not trying to refute facts because I'm not making a claim that one of the subs is b
So based on this your saying Justin Trudeau was not qualified to campaign on canceling the F35 contract as he had no knowledge on the contract and the intricacies of the plane ?
It was a policy I agreed with him on as well and another reason why I voted for him the first time
I have no idea. I would hope he was surrounded by actual experts who could actually speak authoritatively and prove accurate information, as I hope Carney is as I hope Poilievre is. Certainly when you are in government you have a lot more access than when campaigning. In that specific case he paused it but then after reopening the procurement process the military again selected the F35.
Guys it is ok to have some humility in a subject area where you don't know more than a few data points from youtube video you watched. I'm confident about a lot of things I've done a lot of reading and thinking about, but I'm happy to say when I am not at all confident about things and don't really have the information for a strong opinion and absolutely the submarine issue is such a thing. I think people in general are WAY too eager to claim super simplistic "obvious" answers such that our political opponents are making mistakes without really having any depth on the issue at all.