Button JJ facing a straddle 3-bet
$5/$5 NL 8 handed.
V places a $10 straddle utg.
3 players limp.
H on the button raises to $65 with JJ.
Folds to V who raises to $200.
Folds back to H on the button. Effective stacks preflop were $1100.
H?
V is an unknown mid-30’s Filipino male wearing a baseball cap and sports team gear. I profile him as a loose and aggressive regular. The table is 1 hour old. H’s image is tight but not passive. H has 3-bet and raise/4-bet preflop without going to showdown.
I’m thinking the LAG V’s 3-bet range vs a button raising over multiple limpers is wide.
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Calling seems fine. I wonder what your 4bet range should be - KK and AKs only perhaps?
I am shipping it vs the villain as described
It's only 110bb effective against a LAG, why are people saying to flat? Ship it in.
Gotta admit, I was thinking as Aces, at first: 110 bigs, just ship it already.
As big as the bets have been, this is smaller than the 100bb 4! charts I've seen, where their solver is minclicking and shoving, and so pushing it towards a tourney-like pure shove.
The reason for my post though is to ask whether calling, and seeing if H can eke another bet from V, might be better. All depends on what range we're giving V, both initial 3!, and % they fold to a 4. A shove is profitable by the calc I did (~12% 3!, lots of Ax, folds 3/4 to H 4! rip.) I've just been rereading Ed Miller's Course though, and after it, I'm just not afraid of taking a flop in this situation, IP.
If V's got QQ-AA, H is toast, but that's going to happen whether H shoves now or calls. Any non-Ace flop, H is doing pretty good v a LAG. So call, see if V shoves a "safe" flop, and bluffcatch. (Which is NOT a thing in The Course, so far, but I think Generic LAG is gonna do it with a lot of things you beat, even on K/Q containing flop.)
Why shove, and make V correctly fold? I think is the TL;DR here. Honestly, H isn't capped, considering they close the action, and everyone's folded to H's 4! before if I understand the HHs correctly.
