CoinPoker debate

Bizarre thread in many ways, i mean i think everyone knows at this stage CP is a scam and one day will all go to **** for all its users, but people dont want to admit that to themselves and thats the problem, the acceptance of being wrong to yourself is overriding the facts your subconscious knows is true, thats clearly just a thing and to pretend otherwise is just silly.
Just like the legendary Squid Game token rug pull back in 2021or whenever it was. Some hype men (like jpsill is doing here) or whatever hes called, slapped a Netflix logo on it, promised a thrilling "play to earn" crypto casino experience, watched the price moon from pennies to thousands in days, then pulled the liquidity rug harder than ever seen before.. everyone was left holding worthless bags while the devs vanished into the sunset with millions, probably cackling in some non extradition country. If you dont all see that is exactly whats happening here, then well dont come crying to this forum when it does. Its literally inevitable at this stage , for those defending them (either as youre part of it or as you dont want to feel silly for falling for the scam) you are all refusing to see what is right at front of your face ffs.
Anyway...rock on, if you disagree, i dont give a **** tbh, ill let time prove my point. History repeats, always.

Have you or anyone else received private messages from jspill trying to engage about this topic? I told him that I am not interested, and he responded with links to this thread lol.

Sorry I don't really know what you mean by that , what private messages about exactly what And I have to attach picture as your post doesn't show on the new forum

Seems a bit over the top to call it a 'scam' it works fine, you've been saying things like this for months now.

You could be a hype man for competitor other sites as well based on your X history as well, unless you're just really friendly with other site ambassadors for some reason.

You randomly told me to stop posting in another thread which was strange and I DM'd to ask why and I said the OP said I had some valid criticism, and linked to it here, what's wrong with that.

As you're only here to post in about three threads, about CoinPoker, and not to join in with all the other forum users' discussions and debates about other matters, it wouldn't be difficult for you to use the old forum until the bugs and glitches with the new forum, while it is being developed, are ironed out. Everything that is posted in the new forum is shown on the old forum. You tell me that, vice versa, that is not necessarily the case at this time, so it would help you in not becoming so confused, and thinking you need to post what show up as duplicates in the old forum.

Yes i suppose i could.... but im not. Im just a dude who, after working in law and finance for 20+ years, recognises dodgy crap when i see it,. Anyway, each to their own opinion and all that. cheers

Mike haven

When I asked about the password issue you directed me to a discussion thread / help section of the forum

When there upon reading it stated that you wanted people to migrate away from the old forum - that posts made in the old forum might not show in the new forum but posts made in the new forum would show up in the old - for those reasons (push towards new forum , posting that wouldn't show if I used old ) I just stuck with the new forum - it seemed the new forum was launched at start of 2025 so I just thought the bugs would nearly be at an end

And when you edit stuff Mike your actually taking it from showing it in the new forum and it ends up in old That seems to doubly defeat the purpose And it was that editing that caused all the initial confusion - this is a new issue this last 24hrs but one I'm sure you can see if you just log into the new forum - and I have no idea how this thread could have 2 different titles between old and new

Anyway I don't know I don't really see it as a "me" problem - I'm using your latest version in a normal fashion , 18mths from launch seems a lot of your users are still on the old system and it's making a mess of both

And your continual tone Mike "me being confused" I think a 5yr old could see you've got a messy system here thats not or my making so maybe you could cut out some of the sarcasm as that's better coming from the coin shills not the forum moderator

I did also see on that discussion forum a post from you re t+c's which is one of my bug bears as you know with coin - it's nice to see you quote t+c's and I'm sure your aware that the "official CoinPoker thread" telling customers information contrary to the terms they are legally bound by could be dangerous / cause loss to them if they rely on those worthless assurances - that to me is something worth moderation but hey that's your call

NB I have also now used the forgotten password link changed password and tried to log into the old forum - same result not recognised But the new password works on the new forum

There was nothing random about it.

Which part of "not interested" is ambiguous to you? Your messages are unsolicited and unwanted. Stop bothering everyone who has told you that they want nothing to do with you and your bullshit.

Your post at me was unsolicited we’ve never interacted before that, rather than derail the thread I just asked ‘what’s this about’ in DM, then show you the post in this thread saying I had a fair point. It was so strange to get told to stop posting with no other reason so I asked why.

Then you take the time to come here and throw more insults as if to shut me down here too, bit weird

~~So random.~~

Well you have loads of interactions on X with another site's brand ambassador including getting sent tickets by them, calling them your 'mate' etc. And they are taking quite a long time to process cashouts lately due to liquidity issues over the WSOP / World Cup. They are getting processed but it's taking days on end. I just bring this up because if it was Coin you'd be all over it, I'm not posting in their community thread saying it's a scam, yet you go so far as to claim Coin is a scam / rugpull in Coin threads.

The hate this site gets on this forum is the bizarre thing imo, it comes off as astroturfed even as Coin is challenging the incumbent sites and has the potential to be the biggest out there. You and pokerbots1 even tag regulators to try and get the site shut down, it's just overly vindictive and bizarre really, it's an ok site that provides an optional service to people, often in areas that can't play this wonderful skill game that we all love, as it's offshore. I've been working in iGaming 20+ years too, that just means we are old it isn't a measure of either of us being smart tbh.

Thanks for the great post, it's good to have reasonable people in the thread. I was also thinking datamined hands aren't particularly accurate so I wanted to know the source, then got silenced for some reason.

Mega Splash Pots still happen btw, and I haven't seen a Mission worth under 15% they're usually much higher or if there's tiered options, 16% is the lowest, like 16%, 25% or 30% so it seems like the intention is for them to be higher, but just require playing volume. It's pretty easy to estimate the rb imo, there are tons of players on Discord estimating it, they say like 50% for leaderboards, 5-6% for infused splash, then their mission on top of that. Flat rakeback doesn't seem to appeal to recreationals, they want some fun bells and whistles as other pros who were winning said in that thread. Low rake sites like PayNoRake didn't work historically either.

I have a lot of time? You are harassing people who have told you under no uncertain terms that they want nothing to do with you. You are not worth our time.

It is impossible to overstate how insufferable and uninteresting you are.

You linked me to this thread after I told you to **** off, you creep. I didn't know it existed.

Yes, datamined hands aren't particularly accurate, but I still think the average reg winrate is probably anywhere from -6bb/100 to -4bb/100.

I'm aware that Mega Splash Pots/regular splash pots still occur, albeit much less frequently. I haven't played on Coin since the new mission update, as the changes last month dissuaded me from continuing on the site and I have moved my action elsewhere. I may play on Coin in the future, but as it stands, the unpredictability in their approach has caused me to reevaluate where I want to primarily play. I'm fairly sick of going into each month having a restructured rakeback structure and no clue what % I can expect.

As for the rakeback structure, in general, it may be that fish don't like the flat % as much as the reward based system, but my question to that is why do the rake cap levels have to increase for that system to be implemented? I understand that PayNoRake sites haven't been successful in the past and that balancing rake levels is important, although I do think it's the responsibility of the players to always fight for lower rake and celebrating any rake increase is ludicrous. The increased rake levels are exactly mirroring GG, which obviously indicates they are trying to emulate part of what has made GG successful and them having the largest player base. I haven't seen an obvious uptick in fish over these last few months, however, and from April-June the reg-fish ratio I had observed prior to the rake changes has stayed about the same -- Coin has one of the worst reg-fish ratios at about 9-1 to 10-1. If I'm going to pay high rake, I'd rather have access to better games, and if I'm going to play in tougher games, I'd rather pay less rake. Coin, at the moment, seems to offer the worst of both worlds.

How is it harassing to send a DM asking why you've told me out of the blue to 'stop posting'. DMs are a function on any forum to avoid derailing threads, if you consider it harassment you can turn off DMs if you want until you need them

You then DM back to insult me, I then link to an individual post saying I made some valid criticism, from OP of the other thread. You didn't need to come here and I didn't say to, it could've ended there. Now you're going nuts at me, this is way more creepy

Yes Albedoa he's an absolute nuisance - just feels like he's some lefty clown (everything with him is it's creepy/weird/unfair/untruthful - but that only runs one way as usual with those type of people) lying out in Thailand who's been given a few dollars by CoinPoker to run interference

And he's everywhere it appears -
He's Jspill on 2+2

Appears to run the CoinPoker main thread for CoinPoker posting as them

He's all over their discord as James

And it would look like giving the language/ timing etc he's also "Retired Gambling Writer" on X

And it doesn't matter what's said to this guy he doesn't have any answers - he's just continually deflecting / muddying the waters

As for Coin having the potential to be the "next big thing" - anyone thinking that at this stage of the game is deluded . They will pick up the "we can't play anywhere else" brigade , they will have some dart in and out for the tourneys but they aren't going anywhere long term

He won't engage on points/issues properly - if he doesn't see it as "an issue" that's it it doesn't exist

And I think it's dangerous for Coin and this forum to have him posting for them - I'd love to know given that people see the CoinPoker official thread as an official channel and in their view (wrongly) that responses from it carry some weight (they don't) exactly what remit he has or indeed what was given to 2+2 in relation to running that thread under the auspices of "Official" - can anyone start up an official thread and throw out misrepresentations

It wasn't "out of the blue". It wasn't "random". As frantic as you try to rationalize your antisocial and creep behavior, you do not control these definitions. Your embarrassment is not my problem.

We know what DMs are and how to use them. You are the only one acting out in my DMs. I am not going to turn them off because you can't help yourself lol.

It's now the 2nd or 3rd largest site for tournaments, from being a tiny site a couple years ago, the rapid growth was noticed in the industry so it wouldn't be a surprise if all this criticism it gets is astroturfed by competitors. Brand ambassadors of another major site even reply to you on X and you engage with them many times, then you don't criticize those sites for things that you would Coin, it's all a bit suspicious. You were saying a 7 hour withdrawal is bad on Coin, then another site takes up to 7 days and you don't mention it, some posters even came to you to ask if you knew anything about the withdrawal situation under the impression you were a rep for that site.

It's going nowhere (you've had a bit of a run after you signed up everyone on the planet and did free rake)

I engage with most everyone else in the poker world without issue - it's just CoinPoker and its shills are bad for the game imo - quicker your gone the better

Show me where anybody thought I was a rep for ACR

I criticise coin because it's a CAULDRON of UTTER SHITE from top to bottom - I don't others as they aren't it's really that simple

Just an example of the "lefty playbook"

"What's all that about I'm allowed to post on a public forum"

When they want their own views heard there's free speech - dare to disagree with what are more than often their delusions it's "you need to go off to containment" or "your a racist" (widely overused the racist one of late by these people)

And all this is doing is polluting threads - my posts would be 20% of what they are but it's just allegation after baseless allegation / mud slinging / libel / innuendo - for the very most part my views on Coin are only taking what they say /post and highlighting how it doesn't add up

This Jspill guy, everyone who can't toe his line has some link with a competitor / issue - he's unable /unwilling to deal with anything properly - in his tiny university educated mind his viewpoint is gospel - that's the real "delusion of grandeur"

No doubt he's the author of the CoinPoker post about not seizing USA funds - but if he's so smart he knows that meant absolutely nothing - and he uses this forum to mislead customers in that way (and I get called dishonest - and then that leads to me having to screenshot stuff to disprove those allegations)

I just post to respond to you. This thread stopped for a week as you'd stopped, then you bumped it again with the same things again.

None of your criticisms panned out, and I wouldn't be here if you didn't keep making them. For example you photoshopped an image saying balances are cancelled 3 months ago, which wasn't true

Or to just call someone a 'Tunisian rat'

And now that Pads had a deep run in the main event you're spamming your thread about him to everyone to get attention, that is what running interference is, when someone's making a random post and you just come in to post your stuff. This post by Mario Ho isn't about Coin but you jump in to promote yourself -

One of the founding people involved in Coin from 2017 Isabelle Mercier makes a tweet about the $30M GTD series on Coin at the moment, and you just link a random post of yours about USA stuff, but she's in Canada

Anyone reading this should check out your X history to see how you act

Or like you'll post cherry picked things like someone's saying they're waiting for a withdrawal, but you don't include that it's only been 43 mins.

Or someone will say they have a withdrawal issue, but you don't include that he had a security issue ongoing and then it was all fixed

Or you'll post something that looks like it's written by a player, but your forum username is cropped out and it's actually your post. Or claim someone didn't get some rewards, when they did a few hours later

Ok so to show I'm not running interference, I'll pause then. Let's pick this up after the Battle of Malta, I have to post some HHs

See immediately I look at what he writes in the very first sentence something that bears no substance / no reality

He's been told , it's been proven I didn't bump this thread (I could of but I didn't ) it was editing by the mods

But he's straight out with it - like this guy is special needs or something - it only hours since he was shown there was no bumping but yet here he is again - he's a ****ing clown show I haven't even got to reading all the other garbage yet

FFS - The banner put up was a representation of what's in Coins terms and conditions - click bait yes but to focus minds on what was there - what's still there

Firenze I can call him a Tunisian rat on X all day long - and he got called it as he jumped into a thread after unblocking me , made his comment then hit the block button again so comments couldn't be replied to - he's a RAT

Maria ho's post mentioned pads - I responded "ah pads" with a report that points out that pads promoted a site and was one of their lead ambassadors but yet after 2 years "didn't know who he was working for" - my angle on that is if he wins it it's worth pointing out that he's a good poker player - but also either a bit of a dummy or not to be trusted Because surely it has to be one or the other

Isabelle Mercier YOU are the one brought her up only days ago - She has a background in Law , was a founder of Coin and seems to promote the site now so I think it's more reasonable to say to her "take a look at that"

I'll post on X like I wish and YOU'VE BEEN TOLD/ INVITED to post any corrections / follow up info you like - but you don't do that I'm posting about apples and then your on flailing about oranges just leaving it all messy - I WANT people to join your discord , I want them to follow the CoinPoker thread - I WANT THEM TO THINK

ON YOUR NEXT POST ANSWER THIS - An assurance was given on the CoinPoker main thread to a customer that balances wouldn't be seized for USA customers - was it you that posted that and is that assurance actually worthless leading the customer to believe he was protected when actually he was and still is acting in breach of the CoinPoker T+C's which gives them full legal rights to seize his balance FOR ABSOLUTE CLARITY if Coin were to seize his balance on the jurisdiction clause would that assurance given to him be worth anything And why if the position is as stated in the answer are the terms not changed These Terms were hardened up only last year on that jurisdiction issue
Just answer that nothing else - keep it to solely that and when you give your answer let's see how wishy washy it is - I'll come back on your answer on that sole point and let's see where it leads - then there are 100 other things that I'm happy to DEAL WITH (not accept deflection) one after the other

I assume we are talking about ACR here in your first para.
A/They do not nor ever have had liquidity issues so not sure why you are making that up.
B/their delays were based on world cup/wsop (though not liquidity issues) - and i v literally did call them out for it on x. im surprised you didnt see that considering you seem to be keen to follow me about and then read back my own social media/conversations with others to me.
C/After i asked acr the questions they told me v clearly and honestly what happened, which is the total opposite to CP and their non answers to pretty much everything regarding jurisdiction/t&cs (which i note they still havent changed) hence why i view them totally differently to acr. Hope that clears things up.

This is the type of garbage I have to deal with day in and out - and this "retired gambling writer" is based in Thailand same as Jspill , using all his little terminologies "weird" etc and does nothing but clog up timelines

This is the waste that our universities in the U.K. churn out. These people with zero self awareness, "I'm right and if I'm not I'll just put words in your mouth to make me right" - it's Just such a waste of time

Doesn't matter how wrong they are , they are always right . And you know what I wouldn't even mind if they were just "at it" but they actually believe themselves that's the worst part. They've been moly coddled all their lives with their self entitled little views of the world - pretty much everything this idiot says are some form of misrepresentation right back to the pure libel of "threatened to kill 2+2 mods" - it's the modus operandi - deflect / slander that's what CoinPoker its owners and it appears their people are all about - right down to Mr Whiter than White Leonard "I don't know these people" .