2p2 data breach/security exploit
Still not sure where the correct place should be but was recommended to post here:
Are the moderators going to let the players know about what happened, there could be the possibility then of responsible disclosure rather than just a pure data dump.
Yes. Morality and Integrity. You see moral poker leads to Ideal Poker, and thats best for the game and best for the players...
what are your answers?
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker]So I wish to present the argument that various interest and groups, notably including PSFTFBICIADOJ has sold to the players a “quasi-doctrine” which teaches, in effect, that “less is more” or that (in other words) “raked poker is better than not raked poker”. Here we can remember the classic ancient economics saying called “Gresham’s law” which was “the bad money drives out the Good” The saying of Gresham's is mostly of interest here because it illustrates the “old" or “classical" concept of “bad money" and this can be contrasted with more recent attitudes which have been very much influenced PSFTFBICIADOJ and by the results of their influence on poker site policies since Black Friday.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ideal Money]So I wish to present the argument that various interests and groups, notably including “Keynesian” economists, have sold to the public a “quasi-doctrine” which teaches, in effect, that “less is more” or that (in other words) “bad money is better than good money”. Here we can remember the classic ancient economics saying called “Gresham’s law” which was “The bad money drives out the good”. The saying of Gresham’s is mostly of interest here because it illustrates the “old” or “classical” concept of “bad money” and this can be contrasted with more recent attitudes which have been very much influenced by the Keynesians and by the results of their influence on government policies since the 30s.[/QUOTE]
You can have a bunch of fat cats, I think these are players you can win money from....but the casino can still be taking all of the profits from the game.
So you would have bad players and traditionally 'good players' but not even the good players are actually profitable because of the rake strategies of the poker sites.
Lead on.
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker]Welfare Economics
A related topic, which we can't fully consider in a single lecture, is that of the considerations to be given by the poker society and poker sites to “social equity" and the general “economic poker welfare". Here the key viewpoint is methodological, as we see it. HOW should the poker society and the poker site authorities seek to improve poker welfare generally and what should be done at times of abnormal economic difficulties or “depression" (variance)? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ideal Money]Welfare Economics
A related topic, which we can’t fully consider in a single lecture, is that of the considerations to be given by society and the national state to “social equity” and the general “economic welfare”. Here the key viewpoint is methodological, as we see it. HOW should society and the state authorities seek to improve economic welfare generally and what should be done at times of abnormal economic difficulties or “depression”?[/QUOTE]
The players don't have a metric to determine whether or not a given player pool is profitable, especially in comparison to a competitor site that might have perfectly similar rake strategies or might have rake strategies that are difficult to compare from the players perspective.
No they weren't asking for your currency. They think Keynesian money is bad money DUCY?
[QUOTE=Ideal Money John Nash]Now, after some years of thought and observations, I feel that the sort of authority or agency that would be able to establish any version of ideal money (money intrinsically not subject to inflation) would be necessarily comparable to classical “Sovereigns” or “Seigneurs” who have provided practical media for use in traders’ exchanges. We can prepare to appropriately respect the functioning of such an agency (conceivably like the IMF or BIS or ECB) and concede to the effective agency some discretion about the specific form of a guiding index of prices.
But here is where I see the importance of honesty, as if like the honesty of a well-regarded classical European monarch or emperor. Sometimes the people in the USA have been told things like “inflation is not a problem” when statistics compiled by the Labor Department (following “classical” rules) indicate that there is, indeed, ongoing inflation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Satoshi Nakamoto]The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve. [/QUOTE]
ok. i read it, and boy did you convince me. you are right about everything. i agree with every single point you've made. 'they' are censoring you and it should stop. the ideal money standard would solve a lot of problems. thanks for opening up my eyes.
ok. i read it, and boy did you convince me. you are right about everything. i agree with every single point you've made. 'they' are censoring you and it should stop. the ideal money standard would solve a lot of problems. thanks for opening up my eyes.
As things evolve the circumstances might make it so that our work is easier to understand. We call it 'esoteric timelocking'.
And so depending on how things evolve there might be a change in the collective psychology of the 'players' of the 'great game'...
[QUOTE=Ideal Money by John Nash]Political Evolution
There perhaps will always be “politics”, like also “death and taxes”. But it is sometimes remarkable how political contexts can evolve. And in relation to that I think that it is possible that “the Keynesians” are like a political faction that will become less influential as a result of political evolution. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker by Soaker Patoshi]Poker Evolution
There perhaps will always be “rake", like also “death and taxes". But it is sometimes remarkable how poker strategies can evolve. And in relation to that I think that it is possible that “PSFTCIAFBIDOJ " are like a political faction that will become less influential as a result of poker revolution[/QUOTE]
Of course this work is well...older now...
i was just kidding. you're ideas are ****ing loony.
A lot of moderators in this thread, well a lot of posters in this thread are moderators, are breaking the forum rules.
sorry, edited the insult. sorry.
Ok, do you like GOOD money or BAD money?
[QUOTE=Ideal Money]So I wish to present the argument that various interests and groups, notably including “Keynesian” economists, have sold to the public a “quasi-doctrine” which teaches, in effect, that “less is more” or that (in other words) “bad money is better than good money”. [/QUOTE]
Friends, this isn’t going anywhere and isn’t healthy for anyone..
Well we are fixing poker, and then by doing so, we are going fix the money systems of the world. You know, the thing that Nash said...
We only just now as players got to start talking about the concept of "co-operative poker" and how its been used against the integrity of the game.
Let's form a counter strategy using Nash's game theory for it:
[QUOTE=Ideal Poker/Money]When one studies what are called “cooperative games”, which in economic terms include mergers and acquisitions or cartel formation, it is found to be appropriate and is standard to form two basic classifications:
(1): Games with transferable utility.
(and)
(2): Games without transferable utility (or “NTU” games).
In the world of practical realities it is money which typically causes the existence of a game of type (1) rather than of type (2); money is the “lubrication” which enables the efficient “transfer of utility”. And generally if games can be transformed from type (2) to type (1) there is a gain, on average, to all the players in terms of whatever might be expected to be the outcome.[/QUOTE]
