***Official H&F LC Thread***
A valid strategy for getting ripped imo.
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Ok couldn't really make it through everything but Norwegians and their infinite wealth fund should stop pretending to know anything about America and melk very quickly entered the "it's not happening but it's a good think that it is" with respect to inflation, crime, etc. Lol. "show me the data" like we don't go shopping or live in the world.
Anyway, it's gonna be fine bros. Life is gonna be great. Set some PRs. Give more than you get.
Kamala said people should vote for her because she's a woman. (She didn't lean on it at hard as Hillary, but she still pushed for that.) Trump never said anyone should vote for him because he's a man. Which one is the sexist?
Kamala clearly focused on appealing to women. Trump's positions appealed more to the needs and concerns of men. People voted their interests. LOL at saying the divide proves sexism.
Wow. Hegseth. Gaetz. Kennedy. And now Dr Oz.
He is definitely a genius, no way he cheated to get into Upenn. His niece is lying fosho.
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Wow, former CEO of WWE nominated for secretary of education.
So unreal yet so awesome. MOAR popcorn.
I find this interesting because as an outsider, if you claim that more intelligent people vote for Kamala, then why did the college educated men split 50/50? This is an important fact to think about.
It implies that there is no correlation between education/intelligence and who you vote for. I
Didn't trump win or come close to winning the married women vote? Or maybe just married white women?
Short term economic self interest, not perceived deficits in intelligence/information, motivate most (not all) voting decisions. There are exceptions certainly, but working class whites voting Trump is not among these exceptions. People are considerably less able to vote in their best self interest over a longer time horizon, however.
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This is the type of reform the US needs. Trump is not nearly radical enough.
In the intro, lex says he wants to do similar interviews with Xi Jinping and Putin. I'm gonna lol my ass off when old boomer white people call him a traitor for giving these people a platform.
Look dude, those things aren't the same. If you want to reduce immigration one of those should be better than another.
Kamala said people should vote for her because she's a woman. (She didn't lean on it at hard as Hillary, but she still pushed for that.) Trump never said anyone should vote for him because he's a man. Which one is the sexist?
Kamala clearly focused on appealing to women. Trump's positions appealed mo
Oh, now Kamala is the sexist and Trump is the feminist (or at least not sexist)? Soulman, how can you not be entertained!
LOL at saying the divide proves sexism.
Of course, I didn't say that. But you can't read, can you?
Ok couldn't really make it through everything but Norwegians and their infinite wealth fund should stop pretending to know anything about America and melk very quickly entered the "it's not happening but it's a good think that it is" with respect to inflation, crime, etc.
Ah, lord of the squat, you disappoint me greatly. Where did you get the "good thing that it is" part from? Quote function is pretty easy to use.
I don't think crime is good. I don't think excessive inflation is good. I do have different thoughts on immigration policy, tho. I'll give you that.
To be clear, there is inflation. It is lower than it used to be. There hasn't been deflation. That is very difficult to achieve without other bad things happening economically.
Crime is bad. Crime is going down. I provided some data on this. Sorry for the great news!
Lol. "show me the data" like we don't go shopping or live in the world.
Man, kc, this gives me a sad. Aren't you like an engineer also? It's crazy that the ultimate kryptonite for you Trump slappies is "Do you have any evidence for that?" No one is asking for a facking research paper or whatever Rich Muny is rambling on about. You're on a computer connected to the facking internet. Finding like a couple of links to support whatever you're saying should be trivially easy. And if it isn't, you might want to wonder why.
Anyway, it's gonna be fine bros. Life is gonna be great. Set some PRs. Give more than you get.
Life is gonna be fine for all of us posting here. No argument there.
Since you popped by, I'm curious: Modi? Awesome or WOAT? I assume you have thoughts.
Look dude, those things aren't the same. If you want to reduce immigration one of those should be better than another.
No, a bad bill is not an improvement. It would just saddle us with all the negative provisions of the bill. Besides, notice how Biden was fully capable of taking effective action but chose not to until he had to do something with the election coming? We didn't need the crappy bill. We needed action. We didn't get it until the last minute. People who mind aren't misinformed.
Oh, now Kamala is the sexist and Trump is the feminist (or at least not sexist)? Soulman, how can you not be entertained!
Now you're getting it.
Of course, I didn't say that. But you can't read, can you?
Actually, that is what you said.
But, back to the point of your initial graphic. The recent reduction in border crossings is not the salient data point, really. It's just a political talking point. And, as I said, it shows that Biden could have done something years ago and didn't, which works against him and Kamala. The actual point? The total number of illegals who crossed. People who voted on that basis are not misinformed. They've paid plenty of attention to how we've been impacted by the flood of illegals. Too bad you lack the critical thinking skills to see that.
Same for inflation in that Biden wants credit because prices are going up less rapidly than they were before. LOL at thinking people are misinformed on how much they spend.
And, same for crime. You keep crying about cherry-picked data sets, as if legacy media don't parrot the Democrat talking points Biden sends them in the form of White House press releases. But, there are also plenty of
showing some crime going up. We also see blue cities and states clearly not stopping shoplifting and other crimes. Telling people not to believe what they see is such a leftist thing to say. You also sound foolish saying California is tougher on shoplifting than Texas and other red states. The voters sure didn't buy it.
The people who don't believe the stock market is close to an all-time high? They clearly aren't investors, so it's not an important issue to them. It's not misinformation...they could easily check the market if they cared to. Besides, it's only +9 Trump, when the general population was almost +2 Trump. That may not even be a statistically significant difference.
But, keep living in fantasy land, where you believe everyone was just misinformed.
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This is the type of reform the US needs. Trump is not nearly radical enough.
In the intro, lex says he wants to do similar interviews with Xi Jinping and Putin. I'm gonna lol my ass off when old boomer white people call him a traitor for giving these people a platform.
This is frankly an insult to the US. We run the world. We're not some backwater Latin American favela colony. Argentina has way, way different problems than we do.
Not hating Millei but we shouldn't be following their example.
I don't think crime is good. I don't think excessive inflation is good. I do have different thoughts on immigration policy, tho. I'll give you that.
To be clear, there is inflation. It is lower than it used to be. There hasn't been deflation. That is very difficult to achieve without other bad
I won't go digging up data because it's a waste of time and always has been. You and Muny have been chart slapfighting for two pages and has it lead to any enlightenment?
Bezos had this great insight a few months back on the Lex pod (I hate Lex btw but the sound bite was great): "when the data and the anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right." It's basically a respinning of the "lies, damn lies, and statistics". I don't need CPI graphs when rents and real estate prices ballooned, grocery bills grew 40-50%, my plain cotton t-shirts jumped 30%, etc etc. People spend money every day, pay weekly and monthly bills, and they all went up considerably. So please, spare me this caterwauling for more data. Enough with the data.
Feel free to hit me with "well CPI says you're overstating groceries only rose 15%" bitch my OJ went from $6/hgal to $9/hgal, my eggs $8/18 to $13/18, my milk from $4.50/hgal to $6.50/hgal. "Those are expensive items kc just buy the cheaper stuff those items were more impacted" no gfy why were they smd. And it's not just me listen to EVERYBODY.
I do not care if the rate of inflation has flattened. In the past 18 months or whatever. Inflation is a permanent haircut. The strength of my salary is reduced, possibly forever.
I do not care if official crime stats are dipping in the past year after a huge spike since summer of Floyd. Stuff is still locked up at CVS. General air of antisocial behavior everywhere you go.
Thankfully, Boston is much better off than most metros in this regard, but I have friends all over. Things aren't better now than they were 4 years ago.
Since you popped by, I'm curious: Modi? Awesome or WOAT? I assume you have thoughts.
Not well educated. I generally support a Hindu nationalist ideal for India, but my wife, who is a big Trump fan (and has been since day 1), oddly really hates Modi. Something to do with corruption and insider dealings. A big difference between MAGA and BJP is BJP is a highly organized political organization down to the local level, and their tactics are often heavy handed. Maybe that has something to do with it.
India mostly just a big mess don't expect much of it.
I won't go digging up data because it's a waste of time and always has been. You and Muny have been chart slapfighting for two pages and has it lead to any enlightenment?
Bezos had this great insight a few months back on the Lex pod (I hate Lex btw but the sound bite was great): "when the data and t
I don't know which of these things you think I'm disputing, because it's close to none of them, with respect to inflation. Here's my take on inflation.
1. There was a lot of inflation (it seems we agree).
2. The rate of inflation is going down (it seems we agree)
Here are some other things I think (some of which I posted, but you may have missed).
3. I don't think Biden is largely responsible for inflation in the last 4 yrs. There are all sorts of global supply chain issues which played a huge role. As a result there was inflation all over the planet. Inflation in Europe, inflation in Asia. US did better than a lots of other developed countries wrt inflation (to be fair, I don't think we can give Biden much credit for that either).
4. Actually thinking Trump will cause deflation is unlikely because, like Biden, Presidents have little control over it and deflation is uncommon without the economy otherwise tanking. Nearly all periods of economic prosperity are accompanied by some low level of inflation. I think that there is a great chance in four years we might have low inflation inflation in line with historic averages and Trump slappies will claim victory, suddenly forgetting that they were crying for deflation.
I do not care if official crime stats are dipping in the past year after a huge spike since summer of Floyd. Stuff is still locked up at CVS. General air of antisocial behavior everywhere you go.
Well, I guess that's where we differ. I actually care about facts. Sorry to disappoint you
Thankfully, Boston is much better off than most metros in this regard, but I have friends all over. Things aren't better now than they were 4 years ago.
It's funny how you and Rich Muny have this same perspective: "Where I live is not bad with respect to crime. Man, but everywhere else, it really sucks." This is where things like stats really help.
Not well educated. I generally support a Hindu nationalist ideal for India, but my wife, who is a big Trump fan (and has been since day 1), oddly really hates Modi. Something to do with corruption and insider dealings. A big difference between MAGA and BJP is BJP is a highly organized political organization down to the local level, and their tactics are often heavy handed. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on "support of Hindu nationalist idea" for India. Interpreted uncharitably, it would imply that you're super cool with discriminating against Muslims. Unlike Trump, Modi doesn't even try to hide that ****.
Pro-Trump but anti-Modi is quite a unicorn. Would not have expected that.
No, a bad bill is not an improvement. It would just saddle us with all the negative provisions of the bill. Besides, notice how Biden was fully capable of taking effective action but chose not to until he had to do something with the election coming? We didn't need the crappy bill. We needed action.
I wasn't talking about the bill, dude. You said that Biden finally started cracking down in the last year or something to that effect. The question very simple. Is that better than doing nothing at that point or not.
Now you're getting it.
Love it. The dude who was found liable for sexual abuse is not sexist. Really! A+. No notes.
Actually, that is what you said.
No, I didn't. I did not say anything "proves sexism". Go back and read it, if you are capable. If you would like, you can quote it and I can use really small words to explain why I didn't say what you think I said.
I assumed sexism exists and said that worked against Kamala. Actually if you wanted proof of sexism, mindflayer provided a pretty good link on that.
Just skimmed the rest of your post and saw you provided a source for something, finally. Well done! I've got to run now, but I will respond to that part later this evening (and I'll even read it). Cross my heart and hope to die.
No, you don't care about "facts", stop fooling yourself. Almost nobody does. You care about "data", and properly selected data. Crime data itself is fairly unreliable outside of murder for a myriad of reasons (no one in SF bothers to report car break-ins anymore, eg).
It's also pretty foolish to assume a populace will ignore 3 bad years because things are getting back near baseline in an election year.
I'm fairly OK with a Hindu nation ruling as one is all I'm saying. It's fairly illustrative you made no mention of concerns for Indian Christians or Sikhs.
Well said Kidcolin.
Wow, Kidcolin now leaning the win to the "right" side.
Where are thou Soulman? In his safe place in the great white north, thinking about his next 3 star michelin meal. Ah, the good life.
/Grunch
Glad I took a break when all this politarding happening.
Suck it shitlibs and their allegedly centrist apologists (Montecoco). Natinal ID cards. Population registry. And umm... Housing first? Maybe sprinkle in some actual healthcare reform? Stop policing the world and providing free drug development for Euro****s?
Scrolled through everything. Didn't read the Muny/Melk lolz. Don't have the self-loathing for that today but I did snippet some best hits:
Becoming a plumber is an incredible career choice. At least here it’s the highest paid of the everyday trades, there’s a constant shortage of them and it isn’t something that AI is gonna rip the heart out of.
Imo, plumber, carpenter, builder, electrician etc is a way better way to go right now. Maybe
I can't believe this after your prior pro athlete arc! These are great jerbs. Even the military is ****ing amazing in America if you're a loser.
Yes, although there isn't a lot of good evidence this has any chance to truly move the needle. There is a lot of evidence that fewer guns = massive reduction in gun violence. Is there any way to have way fewer guns (and still have hunting!) without a ton of people in the country completely losing th
This isn't true at all. Switzerland has amazingly high gun ownership rates, which are wildly low in reported stats since black market guns aren't considered nor are guns held for "public uses". But go off and pretend it isn't poor brown people popping off. Malmo is great I hear.
I gotta pick an e-fight with Rich just to see:
Abortion should be legal with very few limitations because it is one of the few eugenic forces we have in modern anglospheric society which is rapidly experiencing a reverse flynn effect. It's a violation of a woman's bodily autonomy to force her to give
Abortions are great.
I think there was a poll that asked Scandinavians who would they vote for and it was 90+% Harris over Trump.
So we see where the saltiness from Soulman comes from.
But I think the Scandinavian countries are probably best place in the world to live. High GDP, less inequality, universal Healthcare,
You have no idea what you're talking about. Europe is a cesspool of disinformation. More people in Sweden voted for a party founded by a Nazi by a 2:1 margin which is "in government" (confidence and supply) than said they would vote for Trump.
Eurotards are completely ****ing deluded about America.
I’m a non American so I’m not following it closely but my POV is that
- she didn’t successfully separate herself from being associated with the mediocrity of the last 4 years
- she didn’t manage to create any overarching unifying theme other than ‘he’s bad and I’m not him’ and she didn’t even manage
Best part of the Cumala campaign is you could never attack her policies since she never had any. She was a bag carrier for her entire career minus her senate time when she was one of the most liberal elected officials in America. But now makes weird statements saying "k will be more normie but can't say what that is"
yes pls
I won't go digging up data because it's a waste of time and always has been. You and Muny have been chart slapfighting for two pages and has it lead to any enlightenment?
Bezos had this great insight a few months back on the Lex pod (I hate Lex btw but the sound bite was great): "when the data and t
This seems p normie.
I do find it mildly amusing that two of the more prominent people of color who live abroad get this weird white man talking down vibe on politics like we're dumb ****ing townies who never got out. Which I actually think is vastly more representative of the white folks who never actually traveled. Soulbro lives in an insular semi-******ed Nordic bubble. Yugo is... well Yugo. We're all grown men and have come to value certain things above others, but I don't think anyone on this forum is deeply evil or maleficent. I may think someone is misguided in their approach to solving a problem (generational crime/poverty in AA communities in America for example), but I don't think anyone wants bad things to happen to anyone. Maybe something to keep in mind when we go through this discourse. While it is fun to neckbeard and die on a bullshit statistical hill, at the end of the day I don't think some Israeli weirdo shooting a 15y old with an RPG is great. While we can debate the justification of both sides, maybe we should step back and consider a world where a 15y old isn't taking up arms, and someone doesn't need to shoot him the face so they (or someone else) doesn't die.
But lol Cumala. She gave some head to get ahead. But apparently not enough.
I don’t really understand your comment about my plumbing post but my pov was in the context of someone who is of average intelligence and would be otherwise going into debt to get a meh degree from a meh institution. Getting a trade is just a better option here for many of those people for availability of work, average income, opportunity to have their own business. Having just spent a lot of time sourcing and managing trades as I renovated my house, I found it very tough to find even semi decent tradespeople.
Plumbers in Aus at least are the best paid standard tradespeople by quite some margin and there appears to be almost limitless opportunities for them. My friend’s son is earning over $100k in his first full year after completing his apprenticeship and he was making $60k per year even during his apprenticeship.
I certainly wouldn’t want to do it or be a builder or electrician etc etc but I would be happy if my son decided to get a trade if his high school trajectory continues
I am a normie.
NotThremPOC haha good one
I don’t really understand your comment about my plumbing post but my pov was in the context of someone who is of average intelligence and would be otherwise going into debt to get a meh degree from a meh institution. Getting a trade is just a better option here for many of those people for availabi
Trades make a **** ton of money in first world countries and I think it is an excellent career. I spent a long time counseling Guy to bail on his higher education ambitions and don't think there is anything wrong with never going to college and learning a trade.
I do think pursuing professional sports as a profession is a terrible "career", especially considering that is similar to any other entertainment career where its boom/bust, but you can literally learn to make cabinets and have an upper middle class life.
Wait. Are POCs only people with poopoo colored skin? Are you suggesting a brown paper bag test for POCs? (Much like the blacks did.)
I thought we were all anti-white people. Intersectionalism and stuff.
I think he’s emerging from a sauna to have a threesome with two nubile, multilingual blondes
The sauna thing is deeply troubling. I have quite a few feelings on the subject.
However, I've been happily married for years now. So no more threesomes. Tho Mrs NotThremp speaks 2 languages fluently and one more kinda low key shitty. Not blonde tho.
