Bellagio has a policy where you must adhere to your chop/don’t chop policy

I doubt they can enforce someone to chop but they can certainly tell people they're not allowed to chop.

So I guess if you haven't chopped in the past they can block you from chopping. But if you have chopped in the past they can't block you from not chopping. Just from switching back to chopping.

Can bellagio force me to chop? I don’t think gaming would say so

Better hire a lawyer and sue them for this travesty.

No, I'm pretty sure they can't force you to chop. But if you want to stop chopping after agreeing to chop before they can disallow you from chopping in the future.

And label you an unpleasant customer which might mean less luck with future rulings.

Whether or not this is true and/or enforceable, one would think that any remotely reputable poker player would appreciate this rule as selective chopping is a douchebag move.

Telling people the need to follow made up rules seems like a douchey move to me

Someone thaw out Tommy Angelo. Yeah, no one cares it’s an unwritten rule that you can’t switch during a session but can switch from chop/no chop at the start of any new session. The real problem is OP has no honor, as anyone can see from his threads. This isn’t even a question for someone that conducts themselves appropriately, in B4 PW starts talking about how smart and financially savvy he is lol while talking about a meaningless rule.

Many years ago, there at various poker rooms the dealers would enforce this and even when the supervisor was called would back them up.

It's etiquette and that is how it's supposed to be. You can't pick and choose; it has to be one or the other.

On another note, Venetian and Horseshoe have banned chopping all together.

All rules are made up.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the way the rule is written into the poker room rulebook, it's perfectly fine. Maybe you should ask for the full wording of the rule before you throw a hissy fit.

Where did this come from? Do you 'register' your Chopping Choice at the desk? How would one Dealer over the next even know what you've been doing. The amount of Floor calls over this must be up there if they've taken the time to make a rule.

This is Pre-Flop, right? Are they losing more rake over the delays/disagreements or the Floor calls? GL

PS .. This is not RIT, correct? Or are thy going to jump on that one too?

If I'm at a full ring table where chopping comes up twice I'm finding a new game.

Yup, TI had the same policy when they had poker. I liked it, one less argument at the table.

It's in the casino rules for the game. If you don't like it, play elsewhere.

Nobody is forcing anyone to bet. If you're in the small blind and you're a designated no-chopper, just fold if you don't want to bet.

That's because of high-hand bonus hunters. Otherwise the whole table could chop every hand until someone gets dealt a big starting hand. If you think that's impossible to happen, you haven't played with bonus hunters for very long.

This reveals just how conformist most people are. Over the years, I can't count the number of times I've seen someone go from literally not knowing what chopping means, to being deeply personally offended if someone is a sometimes chopper, based on some other salty old timer at the table ranting and raving about how bad it is. Who really cares? I'm tempted to chop / no chop just to piss off all the self-righteous idiots who will get pissed off about it!

If the house makes a rule, its fine with me either way. Personally I think most people over estimate the value of chopping. The people I'm playing with in low and medium stakes PLO, you want to be in hands with them, even if it is big blind vs small blind.

As a plo player once and I leave.

It is amusing when someone sits down in a 7-9 handed plo game and asks if I chop.

I already know to give them zero action.

As for this rule- gaming wise I don't see how they can prevent you from playing the hand if you've already chopped but they absolutely can make a house rule that you can't chop if earlier you wanted to play the hand out.

If you're actually worried about this rule you need to reevaluate how you conduct yourself at the poker table.

Is this a Table mandate or a Player mandate? Does the table have to reevaluate it each new Player?

I have no issue chopping a few hands when we open a short-handed table .. at least the game is open. But if we are 'getting' short from a full ring then I'm less inclined to chop .. and I announce this as such when we drop down to 5-handed. Otherwise we just put on the mandatory straddle and the 'problem' goes away.

As others have said, if this is the room rule then so be it. There are other rules that rooms have that are not the norm.

Doubt this catches on, but as I previously mentioned it could very easily spill over into RIT.

SUPER LOL at someone actually asking about chops when they sit down at a table instead of waiting until it occurs. Yes, it's proactive, but I tend to agree it tells the table immediately what type of Player you may be like. Or is it a new angle I can try to fool the table (for about 2 orbits)! GL

I'm always willing to chop blinds to avoid paying rake, but never chop blinds in a game with time collection. Bellagio spreads both pot-raked and time-collected games. Is management saying that what I've always done is no longer allowed?

if I'm playing 1/3 at a full table I'll go along with or offer a chop anytime without checking my hands. it doesn't have to be so cutthroat. I've literally never been at a table where the issue of a chop became a point of contention and if someone got upset about it one way or another I would move.

What about if the game gets short and someone doesn’t want to chop anymore? For example some people chop six handed and play five handed or less. What if a normal chopper decides not to chop bc the person on their left isn’t chopping but would chop otherwise. Seems dicey for the casino to involve themselves in. But it’s also not the biggest deal and it seems anyone who has played poker long enough to not be a d bag wouldn’t have this called on them because they wouldn’t selectively chop based on their hand which is the big no no. The simplest thing is to just never chop but I’ve been doing it so long I just keep doing it (unless shorthanded and I will say I’m not chopping in that case before the cards are dealt).

It is not saying anything like that.

Yea it always makes me laugh.
It would be amazing if someone did this and then played like a savage. Or sat out 5 hands to come in for free behind the button then ran some crazy big bluff out of the gate.

are you implying that you change your chop/no chop decision each time before the hand is dealt?

There are people like that. Because of them, rules like this one are implemented.