MuckPls and everyone else vs Vegas (10/4 to 10/20)

MuckPls and everyone else vs Vegas (10/4 to 10/20)

Figured I’d start the TR as I have some time on my hand before my trip. Where to start…

Haven’t really played any poker a

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14 September 2024 at 09:47 AM
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Btw I don’t even understand how we got to tipping issues… I am tipping 20% on average everywhere and we tipped $100 on a $550 dinner at Kabuto on Sunday. Generally confused how we went from race to tipping.

Are you a waiter Randall?


describing another player as black or Asian or female or Latino or European is not racist. it's just a way to identify them from the anonymous pool of strangers at a poker table.

until you start stereotyping them or pronouncing generalizations based on their racial background, there is nothing wrong with it.

now back to our scheduled programming, already in progress


Please continue to include the ethnicity of the other players in your hand analysis. Most people make this type of mental note when playing live poker. I make the same request of BigWhale. Run good guys.


What MuckPls wrote above. I bring it up so that people reading can get my experience and picture the opponent. Don't really see the issue with that, especially as long as I don't add derogatory words next to it.

I will acknowledge that the culture in Europe is a bit different on this issue though, at least in the parts where me and MuckPls grew up. At least that's my impression.


by Langdon k

describing another player as black or Asian or female or Latino or European is not racist. it's just a way to identify them from the anonymous pool of strangers at a poker table.

until you start stereotyping them or pronouncing generalizations based on their racial background, there is nothing wrong with it.

It is stereotyping. That's the issue.

I am a middle aged white guy. How does that give context?


by BigWhale k

I will acknowledge that the culture in Europe is a bit different on this issue though, at least in the parts where me and MuckPls grew up. At least that's my impression.

the US is basically as diverse as Europe.
no need to play the racism card where it is not absolutely necessary. continue on


by Randall Stevens k

It is stereotyping. That's the issue.

It is not stereotyping. Black is not a bad word. You making it think it’s a bad word clearly makes you look bad.


by MuckPls k

It is not stereotyping. Black is not a bad word. You making it think it’s a bad word clearly makes you look bad.

Black is not a bad word. Using it to describe how players play very much is.


He is an Eagles fan. Eagles fans are notoriously unhinged. He can't help it.


it's part of storytelling.

when you write, you provide details so someone reading can picture what you are experiencing.

I hope we never get to "first human limps, second human raises, I call. the human who limped shoves. I find this suspicious..."


by MuckPls k

Are you a waiter Randall?

Is there something bad with being a waiter?

Or are you just too drunk to remember how you don't think tipping helps?


by Randall Stevens k

Is there something bad with being a waiter?

Or are you just too drunk to remember how you don't think tipping helps?

Nope just don’t understand what it has to do with the TR. Yes I do believe the US system is broken and people shouldn’t rely on tips. Despite that I tip literally everywhere. Poker room, restaurants, Starbucks, hand pays.

Is there anything else negative that you would like to bring up before you apologise in private message again in a couple of months?

Come on, we are eager to know. What bothers you today Allen Kessler?


by marknfw k

He is an Eagles fan. Eagles fans are notoriously unhinged. He can't help it.

I spent half of my Sunday transferring Mets tickets.

How did the Cowboys do?


Thank you both for taking the time to share your trips with us. The rest of these comments are complete AIDS.


by MuckPls k

Is there anything else negative that you would like to bring up before you apologise in private message again in a couple of months?

You are a gigantic piece of ****.


by Randall Stevens k

You are a gigantic piece of ****.

Is it not true?



airing private messages for everyone is a d-bag move.

can we just move on


by Langdon k

airing private messages for everyone is a d-bag move.

can we just move on

I am not moving on, this is the second time he pulls this unnecessary bs in my TR. it’s absolutely ridiculous.


by MuckPls k

Is it not true?

It is very much true that you are a gigantic piece of ****.


by Randall Stevens k

It is very much true that you are a gigantic piece of ****.

You have again achieved your goal, hope you are happy. Officially done with both 2+2 and TRs. Have a good one.


Did you just share a message with mark? You are an awful person.


by Randall Stevens k

Did you just share a message with mark? You are an awful person.

If I’m horrible person for standing up for myself then so be it. Won’t lose sleep over it.


congrats on successfully chasing off one of the few who still post interesting TRs around here. job well done.


by marknfw k

congrats on successfully chasing off one of the few who still post interesting TRs around here. job well done.

So, there is no issue with airing out personal messages?


I went to Vegas 3 times a year. Literally no one wants to hear how I drop $5k at pai gow. Why Muck's racist TR more significant?

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