Not Quite Threadworthy--Low Stress Strat Questions
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Flop feels like a clear check raise to me. It’s close to a gin flop for us after the speculative call pre and we have a range advantage.
He’s a nit and we’re deep and out of position. We have a meh one pair hand but both a ton of pot equity but also a ton of fold equity on later streets. Sure, he might call flop and even turn with AK or AQ and we actually want that because we win a bigger pot - is a nit really calling 2 and 3 barrels with a one pair hand?
As played, I like the lead on the turn too as a semi bluff. But I would be check raise $400, lead turn enough to set up a river jam
Preflop has to be pretty bad even if you were a BTN straddle, OOP and this deep with a dry side pot it has to be significantly worse than that.
Maybe if we have reads on V playing in dry side pots it would only be pretty bad again.
On the flop though, if you aren't raising this wtf ... it also looks so strong because of the dry side pot, you should be able to get a _lot_ of folds.
Although, to be fair, I would not bet much here as V.
Flop feels like a clear check raise to me. It’s close to a gin flop for us after the speculative call pre and we have a range advantage.
To be fair, he has AA and we really don't. After that I guess we can make more stupid calls with 76s than he makes stupid raises with them but even 98s is technically a fine open.
So I think it _should_ pretty close on the flop, and I'd treat it that way and only bet very strong draws or made hands.
I think turn donk is bad. Assuming the 8 is better for us than him is wrong. Maybe Euro doesn't raise 98s here, but it's not like we can call flop in a dry side pot with 98s/88 either. On the other side 98s/88 are one of the few hands types I'd bet this flop with as V.
Preflop has to be pretty bad even if you were a BTN straddle, OOP and this deep with a dry side pot it has to be significantly worse than that.
Maybe if we have reads on V playing in dry side pots it would only be pretty bad again.
On the flop though, if you aren't raising this wtf ... it also looks so strong because of the dry side pot, you should be able to get a _lot_ of folds.
Although, to be fair, I would not bet much here as V.
To be fair, he has AA and we really don't. After that I guess we c
We do have 20 outs v 98 tbf
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I can give you guys an idea of my opponents:
Playing 8 handed 1/2 with a bunch of old guys who are pretty bad -- loose/passive for the most part. They call raises w/ PPs, suited cards, gappers, big cards, and they chase draws. Only 3bet w/ QQ/KK/AA.
H is the only woman who plays in this game. The most aggressive player. Raises a lot pre, rarely limps, etc.
H (covers) raises to $12 UTG w/ JTs. I have been raising and taking it down, and if they call, they are easy to play against post. Folds to SB (~$150) who calls. He actually seems to know a little more than others, raises and 3bets wider, but he's still bad. BB goes all in for $25. I decide to isolate, because SB can't be very strong, and raise to $100. Thoughts? SB flats w/ about $30 behind. LOL. Flop comes low cards, he puts in the $30, I sigh call. He has 66, BB has 44, and I hit a T on the river. LOL.
SB berates me for raising to $100 w/ JTs. I just keep my mouth shut.
I stacked him again later when I raised w/ 99, flop was 983cc. He called me down (I bet 3/4 on flop and over bet the turn because I knew he was tilted), and calls his last $60 in on the T river w/ T7o.
BTW, the guy next to me asked how I lead $60 in on the river -- wasn't I scared of the straight? 😀
I can give you guys an idea of my opponents:
Playing 8 handed 1/2 with a bunch of old guys who are pretty bad -- loose/passive for the most part. They call raises w/ PPs, suited cards, gappers, big cards, and they chase draws. Only 3bet w/ QQ/KK/AA.
H is the only woman who plays in this game. The most aggressive player. Raises a lot pre, rarely limps, etc.
H (covers) raises to $12 UTG w/ JTs. I have been raising and taking it down, and if they call, they are easy to play against post. Folds to SB (
Raising in EP with J high at shortish stacked ($150) and microstacked ($25) tables is pretty meh, imo. As the money goes in here, we're mostly flipping at best and destroyed at worst, and never destroying.
And obviously these opponents are lol... but if we have no FE against these jokers, should we be attempting to "isolate" for large percentages of stacks with J high?
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The money is so rarely going in here it's incredible.
After he just calls in the SB? I think 100% isoing. He should be pretty weak here, which he was. My raise looks very strong, and he should be folding almost every hand he called with.
The raise pre is whatever. These guys are so bad that I'm raising JTs+ almost every time, even from UTG, but I know these guys extremely well, which makes all the difference.
I didn't care if BB went all in. He would have folded 80% of his hands -- he just happened to have a pair. I was incredibly shocked that the SB called the $100, though, but my read was right.
Oh, and they were the only ones under 100bb. It just turned out weird.
Another funny exchange: I mentioned that I only straddle BTN, and one of them was adamant that it didn't matter where you straddled -- he literally thought it had no effect on play.
I'm going to have to start posting more hands here. You guys will get a kick out of it.
If everyone else is much deeper then obviously much more of a "standard" play. Just sayin' at smaller stacks that getting too out-of-line preflop is very meh.
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