Cheating on the gulf coast

Did this “said player” say he received a cut of the profit for chip dumping? In an earlier post you stated makeup didn’t matter if we were working as a team and chopping up the money? But yet you’re not claiming this person made anything.

This is a blatant lie because I’ve never asked anyone to chip dump. I’d rather players I buyin to all stay alive as long as possible than to have someone dump chips and put all the eggs in one basket. Furthermore none of the players who I stake would share the money they bust their ass grinding to make with others.

The guy you are saying stole $80,000 is the guy who lost $80,000��. My money was the money that was lost. I made nothing off of it. Like I’ve previously stated, random people who didn’t know me who I got in lost a combined $4,000 or so and all were reached out too and spoke with. You won’t find anyone to step up and say I screwed them with the crypto situation because at the end of the day I was the one who lost the money. The group of guys who made the coin(developers I think are what they are called) are the ones who sold their coins after it pumped and ran which I assume was their plan all along

I stand corrected. I saw a $80K loss posted and totally glanced over which user wrote it.

I'm sorry to hear that. That sucks man. $80K is a lot of money. I hope you're doing ok and recovering well.

I don't know if you’re cheating with your stable or not. I do know that cheating happens, and it happens a lot. Especially at live tournaments.

If you are cheating then, shame, shame. Don't get caught or something.

Cheers.

I’m definitely not. I just won a few poker tournaments and people who are hiding their names are trying to make me out to be someone I’m not. They always say if you don’t have haters you’re not doing something right. I just came here to defend myself but not going to be stressing over this thread much longer. I just got home to my family from being on the road and don’t need people trying to ruin what was one of the best financial weeks of my life

I too stay balanced with my bluffs.

Go on

A 4 way chop of a % of a few hundred k doesn't equal lambi it just takes a few dealers not the whole crew

Oooo! Don't forget he backs and trolls with class act maurice Hawkins!!

This totally ruins the integrity of the tournament when people do this. Not a fan.

Just another person who thinks they know something they don’t. I don’t stake Maurice. I’m done wasting my time responding to someone such as you who doesn’t know what from what

Hey i don't know what you are doing if anything but I do got what I think are some very good questions.

I think the collusion is the only accusation that could possibly have any weight to it, so I would say it's not helping your case to have admitted to firing 40 bullets all or most of that were shoved in blind. Don't you see how that could look weird in this situation?

Another question, why fire 40 bullets in a $400 tournament? For a "professional" in his discipline of choice to light 12 or 14k on fire when money and bankroll is king to his success and to self proclaim to do it in the dark makes no logical sense, unless there was another explanation, at 25k starting stack that adds 10 million chip to the tournament. Does 10 million effect the structure enough late where it would give your "team" an advantage?

It makes no sense at all, if those guys have an edge in skill, because they are just good and because the fields are so weak why not buy in play your best and let your skill edge win out in the long run and save 35 bullets?

I name dropped originally so I feel some responsibility to clarify that I have never suspected cheating, at least not in WSOP Circuit events. I cant speak to smaller events and if some of the claims of dealer procedure are true, then thats a different issue and something to bring up with the TD.

These are crazy soft fields and that group is among the best players those fields, so naturally you are going to see one or multiple of those names at Final Tables and such, especially with backing and multiple bullets.

I agree they are soft very soft and these guys have a skill edge 100% no question.

Why fire 40 bullest dark? You simply take your edge away by flipping coins?

I can understand you asking why fire 40 bullets. The 10,000,000 in chips is the wrong math. It is 1 million not 10 million. Also there is no “team”.

However. It was 6 flights. I fired 36 bullets. Through the first day(3 flights) I fired roughly 9-10 bullets which is 3ish per flight. The second day which was the last day I fired 2 in the morning flight and 3 in the afternoon flight and then I fired ~20 in the night flight. The night flight was the last flight to try to spin up a stack. My goal was to go all in dark and win two hands in a row which would get me to 100,000 in chips. Don’t get me wrong I was also having fun with it. Going all in in the dark isn’t a winning strategy but it can be a lot of fun and it’s no different than me going and gambling in the casino to have fun and furthermore having 100,000 stack when/before reg closes is a pretty nice stack to have.

Firing 30 bullets is not proof that there’s no cheating. If the goal is to build a stack and you know you’re likely to have someone run deep at FT to make the money back then who cares. Also, why would someone who is “crushing these fields” just gamble away 12k? Oh I forgot- he’s a “nice guy” so he probably just did it for others.
In fact nothing said from Cody or Preston in this thread is an argument against cheating. If anything, the info that has come to light makes it seem more likely. But people who don’t want to believe won’t and people who do want to believe it will. Still curious about this chip dumping hand that was allegedly witnessed?

Seems collusion and card marking are the two things to be most suspicious of especially when one guy wears purple or yellow glasses. There’s been no proof in this thread about dealer involvement for anyone trying to catch up.

I don't know anyone involved, or play in these pools, but if you told me a group of 5-10 pros are studying pool exploits together and crushing 100-300 person $100-500 super soft live fields, I'd say that sounds about right. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to look at a solver output and say "Well the people I/we play against are NEVER doing X, so instead of doing Y we should be doing Z" and then just batching those conclusions to be generally more aggro in certain spots/overfold other spots. The fact that they are all friends, have financial ties to each other, and are all playing the same games at the same time is bad optics but doesn't mean anything nefarious is going on.

If people have proof of chipdumping, that would be more damning and more valuable than any speculation. The people who claim they are chipdumping but don't have hands to share is odd...how can you claim they are doing something that you saw but not provide the hands?

Correct one to many zeros. I'm not implying you cheated just wondering.

Aren't these events in question drawing over 1000 entrants?

This is really the issue here. Not just for this discussion but for poker in general.

I've never been to florida, I don't know a single person mentioned here, but I don't for a ****ing second buy that an active poker player with a stable and 2015 2+2 account (meaning history in the community) "isn't active in the crypto world" and "unwittingly got duped into promoting a sh*tcoin pump and dump".

The former requires a level of intelligence and competence that makes the latter claim straight up unbelievable. This is like third or fourth cycle, there is just no way and him making that claim makes everything else suspicious.

Like I'd actually respect him for saying: "yeah I ****ed over morons" at this point, since it's not like I have any compassion for people who still fall for that ****.

Basically an active app poker kingpin since pppoker and when it moved to bros, seems like he would understand something about crypto markets

That's correct. I'm assuming what spawned this thread was Cody winning a $500 2k+ field earlier in the week and then chopping a 1800+ person $1200 main in the same week for a combined $350k.

Of course that doesn't mean anything nefarious is going on...

I'm honestly kinda surprised this thread is allowed to stay up given there is no proof and someone is named. Kinda wild to be honest

I don’t know these people and even if they’re not cheating which they’re probably not I think running stables for MTTs and creating situations that collusion/chip dumping/dealer manipulation etc like this are suspected are terrible for poker just from an optics view. A lot of people quit HS tournaments when they found out how much people bought/sold/swapped of each other and it’s terrible for poker. Organizers should just have a rule if you are found or suspected of not playing your own money/for all the prize you will be disqualified/ineligible from future events. I used to do swaps and sell/buy action for fun but situations came up where we ended up on the same table and it just seems better to avoid TBH idk how people deal with this constantly and don’t find it morally/ethically wrong.

you may be right but it is never gonna happen when the people backing each other make up 10% of the entries into a given event and are dumping tons of money in the sportsbook.