Cheating on the gulf coast

Cheating on the gulf coast

What exactly is going on down south, the same stable of players literally has won every event for the past year.. i know i can't be the only one thinking something smells fishy

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14 January 2025 at 05:10 PM
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by 3HighAnyGood? k

If someone wins a lot - they will either be labeled good players or labeled a cheater. Do you expect new accounts to log on and say these guys are bad players? Thats not even logical. They win a lot, so obviously people think they are good.

Do you know how many bad players go to Vegas every summer to play against the best in the world? Do you know how many people dump their life savings in slot machines or dice tables where they know they are going to be loser over the long term? Yea, so tell me

You missed the whole point, I wasn't saying they shouldn't say they are good. I think its bizarre people losing to a known stable would come on here and defend the guy taking their money. That is bizarre to me. I believe several of the new accounts are the same person or people. That is my theory. Not all of them but some of them


by CoachGuru25 k

Fair! Im curious about dealers not adhering to protocol, what does that mean?

First let me say that what I hope comes from this thread is that a certain casino in Biloxi is carefully reviewing their tapes/ hiring an outside firm to investigate.

I'm not overly hopeful that they will catch anything as I doubt cameras on the ceilings of these giant conference rooms can pick up enough detail unless they were tipped off ahead of time and zooming in with an optical zoom. When a dealer was caught red-handed in Texas setting a deck, a tournament director viewed the slow-motion cell phone video taken from like two feet away and was still arguing on Twitter that no cheating was taking place. Someone that is an expert in the field couldn't spot a (very unskilled) mechanic even after watching a close up of them cheating in slow-mo that was pre-labeled as cheating!

Second I want to apologize to any honest dealers that are facing additional scrutiny. That wasn't my intention. I left the Biloxi series early due to my concerns (even though fields are epically soft). I was just going to put the experience behind me with no intention to return or say anything, but when I saw this thread I decided to speak up. It was kind of a spur of the moment decision and I didn't think about all the potential ramifications. I don't know any of the people allegedly involved and honestly probably couldn't pick the people I suspected out of a lineup.

Anyway I'm not a dealer but the proper procedure is something like riffle, riffle, box shuffle, riffle, release hands from deck, move cut card to front of deck, cut with one hand and deal.

The cut is probably most important, as an honest cut at least makes setting a deck infinitely harder to do.

Mechanics often do a push through shuffle where they take each side of the deck and push them through each other so it looks like they're shuffling, but they're just pushing the cards through each other. Then they combine the last push-through riffle into a two-handed cut where they just put the bottom of the deck down on the cut card and put the top right back on top.

I wanted to stick to facts in my initial post, but I was relatively confident I saw two decks get set by two different dealers using this exact move during the series in Biloxi. It's very hard to spot in real time with 100% confidence, as unfortunately a lot of lazy (but honest) dealers do similar-looking two-handed cuts that are not cheating. Just because you witness something resembling this move right before a big cooler is dealt doesn't really prove anything without a slow-mo video to show the deck was in fact being set. So again, I'm not completely certain but am highly suspicious. If I had to put a number on it I would say I was 70% confident that I saw decks being set. This was in a giant room long before the eyes and scrutiny of a final table.

Now a word about chip dumping. I'm much less concerned about it than most people seem to be. The reason is that the math doesn't support it as a viable strategy. According to ICM each additional chip is worth less in real money value than the preceding chips. What this means is that mathematically the same amount of chips is worth more divided amongst two players than it is if it is dumped to one player.

That doesn't mean having weak players dump chips to skilled players might not be a viable strategy, but it's going to be of limited utility in real money results (profits) because it is working against the math. Pretty much it will only be a winning strategy if the player the chips are dumped to is good enough to make up for the loss in value when the chips are dumped.

Basically if you're a good player not involved in the chip dumping then the ICM value of your stack goes up when the chip dumping occurs, while the ICM value of the two stacks combined into one with a chip dump goes down. Not something I would be too worried about. I would be more concerned about collusion like card sharing, whipsaw betting and the like.

Now moving on I want to make it clear that I don't know any of the accused people in this thread. I didn't know the dealers I was suspicious of. I was literally in Biloxi for four or five days and reached these conclusions as someone who knows the game, and who has seen it all. The way the thread has played out definitely makes me suspicious that some of the accused are cheating though.

Take this:

by wstanford25 k

h/What people fail to realize if I could actually cheat and help others I wouldnÂ’t do it but letÂ’s just say I couldÂ… donÂ’t you think IÂ’d be making sure that horses who are in deep makeup would be the ones who get the chips and run the deepest. Think people

Interesting, cheat and help others. That seems like exactly how a cheater would rationalize it to themselves.

And all this nonsense about going all in blind 35 times but just being that good that you make up for it with your skill edge.

Phil Ivey isn't that good. No one is that good. Maybe you make enough from taking sports bets, poker horses and running poker games to afford to give away a lot of money on the tables, but this nonsense that "these guys are just that good" is just that. Nonsense.

by wstanford25 k

I assume it’s me because my name is “Cody” and my name is mentioned above? Are you blind? Also unsure which horses you are referring too but it’s untrue. If it was someone would be sharing some type of proof. People don’t think. It I were bossing around horses to chip dumb don’t you think I’d be spreading it around and make sure all horses stay out of makeup. I have over half a million out in makeup. Maybe those said horses are no longer working with me because of different reasons but I

Freudian slip much. Yeah it is dumb to boss around horses to dump chips when they might later owe you money and have an incentive to rat you out.

Anyway I've had an account on here for years and this is the first time I've ever gotten into cheating discussions involving actual people. It's really not my style to get into all the drama. In that time I've witnessed a LOT of cheating IRL. I can think of three occasions where I caught someone red-handed, but 9 times out of 10 it is suspicions and behind the scenes discussions among regs.

But I've decided it is important to have these discussions. Yeah it's probably bad for bringing in new players and some innocent people end up getting scrutinized but it's the only way to fight back against the cheaters.

Now back to the your regular scheduled programming of new accounts singing the praises of the alleged cheaters and talking **** about anyone that would dare question them.


by GreatWhiteFish k

First let me say that what I hope comes from this thread is that a certain casino in Biloxi is carefully reviewing their tapes/ hiring an outside firm to investigate.

I'm not overly hopeful that they will catch anything as I doubt cameras on the ceilings of these giant conference rooms can pick up enough detail unless they were tipped off ahead of time and zooming in with an optical zoom. When a dealer was caught red-handed in Texas setting a deck, a tournament director viewed the slow-motion ce

“Now back to people hiding behind a screen name because they are too scared to reveal a real identity to put with their accusations.” - that’s what you meant to say right?

One side is people stating who they are, saying they’ve played with them and don’t think there is cheating. Other side won’t reveal their identity but are sure they are being cheated by half ass untrained dealers or they are convinced that a non profitable chip dumping scheme is what they are doing so they a few players can
Look good - even though it’d be impossible for all them to profit.

At this point this is literally the dumbest thread in history. Flat earthers have more of an IQ that those of you who are sure that a dumbass untrained dealer who cut the cards incorrectly or showing up to the wrong table during dealer change is somehow cheating you on a repetitive basis right in front of your eyes.

I’m GLAD you left Biloxi and hope you never return to Gulf South Poker. I don’t care how bad you play - nothing tilts me more than being at a table with a complete moron.

And lastly - no one claimed Cody’s edge was so great he could overcome 30 entries. We claimed his results were better when he gets a big stack early in tournaments (bc then he can bully the shorter stacks who are also worse players). This isn’t ****ing rocket science. Sometimes he loses lots of money employing that strategy. Sometimes he gets a stack early and runs over a field without reentering because he triples up on his all in blind. He’s a gambler. Ask people how much they’ve seen him lose in the pits. Gamblers are going to gamble - and that’s what he’s doing.


by GreatWhiteFish k

First let me say that what I hope comes from this thread is that a certain casino in Biloxi is carefully reviewing their tapes/ hiring an outside firm to investigate.

I'm not overly hopeful that they will catch anything as I doubt cameras on the ceilings of these giant conference rooms can pick up enough detail unless they were tipped off ahead of time and zooming in with an optical zoom. When a dealer was caught red-handed in Texas setting a deck, a tournament director viewed the slow-motion ce

Oh gee thanks for blanket apology and not notifying any of the floor people of your concerns since WE WERE ALL WEARING NAME BADGES... Sweet Jesus in this day and age of just blanket posting any garbage without even a split second of thinking about what you could be doing to someone... gee that's low brow. Do better... you could have done better by voicing your concerns to the people that could have done something about it... and the exact moment it happened... you could have been a hero! could have made everyone look better. But ya didnt.. You came on here calling us all mechanics and cheats and now 13 stupid pages later we get this... yea no thanks man... we good


by Dealer_Chet k

Oh gee thanks for blanket apology and not notifying any of the floor people of your concerns since WE WERE ALL WEARING NAME BADGES... Sweet Jesus in this day and age of just blanket posting any garbage without even a split second of thinking about what you could be doing to someone... gee that's low brow. Do better... you could have done better by voicing your concerns to the people that could have done something about it... and the exact moment it happened... you could have been a hero! could h

Excuse me, wasn't apologizing to you dealer cheez it's. I'm guessing you're one of the cheats otherwise I have no idea why you'd be on here taking things so personally when, as far as I can tell, you were never personally named. Anyway if YOU want to post your real name and pic feel free and I'll let people know whether you were one of the people I witnessed cheating.

Otherwise we'll just wait for security to get around to reviewing the tapes.


Well 99% of these people know who I am. Apparently Noone knows who you are Mr. Accuser... just curious why you didn't notify your floor staff of you being cheated. Seems really fishy to me.... maybe it was your own mechanic screwed up and sent the wrong hand one seat over and you busted... see how that goes


by GreatWhiteFish k

Excuse me, wasn't apologizing to you dealer cheez it's. I'm guessing you're one of the cheats otherwise I have no idea why you'd be on here taking things so personally when, as far as I can tell, you were never personally named. Anyway if YOU want to post your real name and pic feel free and I'll let people know whether you were one of the people I witnessed cheating.

Otherwise we'll just wait for security to get around to reviewing the tapes.

Quite frankly... you didn't witness ****... you more than likely weren't even there. Probably just a troll looking for a laugh. Good on ya bra!


by Dealer_Chet k

Well 99% of these people know who I am. Apparently Noone knows who you are Mr. Accuser... just curious why you didn't notify your floor staff of you being cheated. Seems really fishy to me.... maybe it was your own mechanic screwed up and sent the wrong hand one seat over and you busted... see how that goes

Did someone accuse you personally? Or I guess these 99% of people who know you would just assume you were the guilty party by association? Sorry that's your problem not mine.


by GreatWhiteFish k

Excuse me, wasn't apologizing to you dealer cheez it's. I'm guessing you're one of the cheats otherwise I have no idea why you'd be on here taking things so personally when, as far as I can tell, you were never personally named. Anyway if YOU want to post your real name and pic feel free and I'll let people know whether you were one of the people I witnessed cheating.

Otherwise we'll just wait for security to get around to reviewing the tapes.

Did you expect to make accusations against dealers/floors and some dealers not take offense? You really are ****ing stupid. It’s our jobs, our livelihoods. I work with a lot of the same dealers in Iowa, North Carolina, Oklahoma, etc. I have many of those same dealers deal to me when I’m playing in Mississippi and elsewhere. No one likes being called a cheat or having their workplace scrutinized for **** that you can’t even make a plausible argument is actually
Happening. Life must really suck when you can’t accept where you stand amongst your peers. It’s not easy to call yourself a loser, I know. But you have made it clear that’s what you are.


For all you that think the dealers are cheating, you can go on the gulf coast poker.net Facebook page and watch videos of hands. Not sure you will see much shuffles and cuts but instead of just making acquisitions on the dealers, do some studying and find something if it really happened.

Again, I highly doubt any cheating happened. Specially not with any dealers dealing cards. If anyone is more concerned about it, keep a look out when you’re at any of their tables. But I think the outing of them needs to move on. If chip dumping happened, state more cases and bring in more names to confirm it. This thread is getting ridiculous.

I get the new account thing, but I haven’t been on twoplustwo in god knows how many years. Didn’t know existed still. What more value is my account than a new one?

All the **** is running back and forth. Cody supplied some addys for y’all to look into. Let’s post some facts backed up or move on


by VincentVega k

You're so full of ****.

You're at a table where half the table is playing on the same dime and this doesn't concern you at all? Hahaha. Cmon man....i know you just registered and this thread is full of idiocy but I just got nothing for this.

The amount of random 5 post counts coming and spewing about the "infinite bullets" is old. Sure, it's a little more difficult to play against a lag who can just rebuy but if the tournament is reasonably deep it's not like you're forced to gamble with them. Th

...Just because we don't spam 10 posts on some thread where you just said you know nothing about the situation or anyone involved doesn't mean we don't have info for the situation that is relevant. Who would want to even post on a forum where everyone is a troll talking **** to each other lol. I was at the event in question, gave my opinion, and without knowing anything you attack me for it to spam your post count up I'm guessing? Classy and informative, thanks for your input man!

To me this is just a bunch of online guys trying to find the reason they can't beat live MTTs like the circuit regs. "I'm probably better than them why do they win and I don't?!? They must be cheating!" It's a joke.. drop the ego and learn that live and online are two different games that require completely different skillsets and you'll probably start getting better results.

Since this is all a bunch of trolls and my opinion doesn't matter because of how many posts my account has made I'll dip too.


Yea I'm new account... Didnt know this ridiculous forum even existed til 2 days ago when a fellow dealer sent me a link and your asinine comment was the first I had the displeasure of reading. Yes you actually "blanket" insulted anyone that worked there. Too bad you didn't have the "stones" to actually do it to our face. I would have enjoyed that.

I truly believe all of your bullshit messages on here are actual bullshit. I don't believe you were there. If you were tell me a start time of a tournament or what the name of the room it was being held in named? Doubt ya can. You are an internet troll that's all. Congrats you got a couple us "turnt" as the kids say nowdays.


by Rocketpocket k

Ive seen loads of this precisely at the events run by this crew

I doubt you did... otherwise you should say something... No reason not to. Floor staff are pretty damn direct with an answer.... if you are just agreeing with this nonsense to stir the pot I hope poker karma finds you


by Dealer_Chet k

Sure it's possible...
About as possible as me having a threesome with Scarlett Johansson and Megan Fox tonight.
In the scenario that is explicitly this stupid thread and not some other tomfoolery home game or live stream bullshit... the above is the odds of it happening for a select group of people over a tournament series.

They'd both do me, but I don't think they like each other.


by c double k

They'd both do me, but I don't think they like each other.

See!!!!! Another variable to make it damn near impossible �� �� ��


by callingstation44 k

I am also very suspicious of all southern WSOP circuit stops at Tunica, Cherokee and Choctaw. A group of dealers are likely setting deck for a stable of players. I have stopped playing hands with Preston and a few other regular winners. They never lose a hand at big spots and will often have very unlikely preflop holdings that win big pots.

Can we put a list of speculative names together? Will be useful to put together a list of dealer names as well.

Shaun Deeb had posted a video of mechanic deale

Please do put a list together... or ****ing "nut up" and report it.... you know why don't. Cause it didn't happen. You are living in fantasy land where every dealer is "Worm" from Rounders.... sweet Jesus you people need a clue


I’m not familiar with bitcoin wallets but just because you show wallets that took a loss of some sort does not mean you don’t have a wallet that participated in a pump and dump scheme and made significantly more than the loss…..?

I am very familiar with people who have been in the poker industry in casinos for a long time, I was told by a long time casino manager. The “profession” of cheating in cards and mechanics is only as good as its secrecy and ability to blend in with the dealers who are perceived as bad and unskilled.

It would be interesting to know how many if any tournaments that these players are doing well in, use auto shufflers throughout vs in the money vs final table.


there are no shufflers at these tournament tables


by Hell2Heaven k

I’m not familiar with bitcoin wallets but just because you show wallets that took a loss of some sort does not mean you don’t have a wallet that participated in a pump and dump scheme and made significantly more than the loss…..?

I am very familiar with people who have been in the poker industry in casinos for a long time, I was told by a long time casino manager. The “profession” of cheating in cards and mechanics is only as good as its secrecy and ability to blend

Smart thinking. Come to think about it most of the Florida tournaments Cody said they don't play because they run at the same time as other tournaments all use auto-shufflers (I think many of the Vegas ones do too?).

Someone could theoretically make a list of suspected cheats and cross-reference them with series that use auto-shufflers vs. those that don't. If they're doing significantly better at series with manual shuffling it could suggest they have dealers setting decks.

It wouldn't account for any other forms of cheating though.


Not familiar with FL, as far as Vegas.

Outside of WSOP and any other very large turn out event (WPT etc). Most Vegas casinos are using shufflers for the duration of the tourney unless the tourney is large enough to go into overflow tables that will be hand shuffled until all players are on a table with shuffler then its turned on.

During WSOP all non-Caesars casinos hosting a serious that have shufflers usually force all tables to use them when there are few enough tables left to consolidate all players to those tables. If I recall, Aria hand dealt entire tourney’s this summer because their cash action filled all tables with shufflers and some cash action went to hand shuffled tables (I remember this because it was one of the only hand shuffled PLO games outside of Bellagio/Horseshoe). GN was hand shuffled throughout entire series as well. I have not been to new venetian room but historically they have used shufflers for the duration of the tourney and I haven’t been to wynn in ages. As for the more local casinos, SouthPoint and Orleans are on shufflers if possible.

I look at it this way, if casinos implemented auto shufflers in the first place it was for two reasons, “speed up the game”, and to control how often any bad beat promo is hit (with the white papers that came out, we can see how this COULD be possible).

All that to say if shufflers can be manipulated to force outcomes the same way a mechanic or shady dealer can manipulate cards, it doesn’t mean these things aren’t happening amidst autoshuffled houses as well.


by Hell2Heaven k

Not familiar with FL, as far as Vegas.

Outside of WSOP and any other very large turn out event (WPT etc). Most Vegas casinos are using shufflers for the duration of the tourney unless the tourney is large enough to go into overflow tables that will be hand shuffled until all players are on a table with shuffler then its turned on.

During WSOP all non-Caesars casinos hosting a serious that have shufflers usually force all tables to use them when there are few enough tables left to consolidate all

Didn't mean to imply that the auto-shufflers are necessarily "safe." It's already been demonstrated that they can be hacked to set decks.

Ultimately the best defense is a well-run room. A good poker room manager will control access to auto-shufflers to make sure they're not being hacked, hold dealers accountable for proper procedures, and make sure that any concerns are taken seriously.

The real problem is this:

by JohnnyGroomsTD k

This is a legit scumbag thing to do. Accusing someone of cheating without proof is literally the worst thing you can do as a poker player.

Either show some proof or shut yer disgusting Pie Hole….

From what I can tell this is the former manager of the casino in Biloxi that I expressed my concerns about, and likely current manager of an affiliated casino in Maryland.

You have seven people expressing concerns about cheating on the first page of the thread and his response is, "shut yer disgusting pie hole."

In his mind it's not the cheaters that are bad for business, it's the people expressing their concerns that they may have been ripped off and robbed by bad actors in their casinos.

It's hard to believe that if I could spot these cheats after spending a few days in their casino that no one else is aware of what's going on.


by wstanford25 k

I’ve been looking for wallets of where I was holding. I found 3 so far. I will post them below. Anyone can check these wallets and will be able to see that I held and did not dump.

0x37268d9F8d4ff9C5C6137E97743e9cB56956aA5d

0xb487Fc108103ea6b30aEaa09aF1C0384af256C72

0x6ba0c756fCB79397Da9211Bb03Afd32F87d83257

These wallets should have ball park around 25 million tokens in them combined if not a little more.

I don't see the tokens.

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Anyway, wanted to give my 2 cents after reading this thread.

Let’s imagine I’m a successful live poker player, I’ve earned my profit fair and square, and someone accuses me of cheating.

Firstly, I doubt I would even respond if people were just speculating, theorizing, or gossiping without providing anything tangible that I can dispute with facts. People have a right to speculate.

Secondly, if I were to respond, I would only respond with hard, stone facts and nothing else. Because everything else, in my opinion, would actually make people believe me even less than if I said nothing at all.

I’ll give you an example. Let’s say I go on a trip, come back, and my wife asks me, “Did you f... someone on your trip?” I’ll say no, and I’m not going to say anything else. I’m not gonna ask 100 of my friends to come by and tell her what a nice guy I am and that I would never do it, because that would make her think I did it 😀)))

I don’t think Cody knowingly scammed people with that crypto coin because:
• Scammers scam all the time; it's the type of people they are. They would always do it, not just once. As far as we know, nothing else happened with Cody and crypto again.
• If he wanted to scam people, he would need to scam them out of millions of dollars; there’s no logic in scamming them for 200–300k. He can make that money playing live poker if he has more than 2 brain cells.
• And this is my super subjective opinion: a scammer cannot have a successful stable for a long period of time unless every single individual in that stable is also a scammer, which is a bit unlikely.

Is he not smart for trying to convince people to buy that coin? Sure thing. But guess what, all of us are not very bright in some areas of life and smart in others. It’s possible to be a math genius and be very naïve in every other aspect of life.

If I had to bet my money, I’d bet that Cody is a normal guy.

Disclaimer: I’ve never met him or any person in this thread, for that matter.


Guy associates and does business with Maurice Hawkins........sounds like a credible, upstanding individual


by Max k

I don't see the tokens.

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Anyway, wanted to give my 2 cents after reading this thread.

Let’s imagine I’m a successful live poker player, I’ve earned my profit fair and square, and someone accuses me of cheating.

Firstly, I doubt I would even respond if people were just speculating, theorizing, or gossiping without providing anything tangible that I can dispute with facts. People have a right to speculate.

Secondly, if I were to respond, I would only respond with hard, stone facts and nothing

The coins are there. I’m not super familiar with crypto still to this day but maybe you have to look on AVAX since that’s the platform or whatever it’s actually called but again I could be wrong on how you look it up…

I thought I’d look bad if I didn’t respond. I wanted to speak the truth whether you want to call my truth the facts or not. As far as other people responding I haven’t asked 1 person to come here and post on my behalf.

I do agree with you that if I was trying to scam others in crypto I’d still be posting. My reputation to me is more important than trying to run a crypto scam to make very little money. I’d have to chop up profits with everyone involved. I learned my lesson messing with something I didn’t know much about.

I actually believe a big part of this thread has been people trolling but I’m unsure. I’ve tried avoiding even looking at this thread or stressing over it. At the end of the day I know my truth and I wholeheartedly believe the people who actually matter to me and that I care about also know the truth but I do care about my perception and reputation as well but sometimes with success comes hate


Pretty interesting thread relative to current NVG standards.

Hopefully Doug or Joey make some type of content about this.

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