2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th

2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th

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18 December 2024 at 05:14 PM
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Government should just mandate it be posted. Easier for tracking taxes.


by LimpDitka

If the Grinder really only had 20% of himself I kinda feel bad for the guy. After taxes he won like a million dollars

where does this come from???
guy still plays today in huge cash games (successful), a 10K buy in is laughable for him, why would he only have 20%???


by Whiskeyjack1

where does this come from???
guy still plays today in huge cash games (successful), a 10K buy in is laughable for him, why would he only have 20%???

I have no information about this, but it seems possible he would have a staking deal that covered all his WSOP buy-ins and was in place before his PPC win.


by NickMPK

I have no information about this, but it seems possible ...

so it's a rumor with no basis in facts then.
thx for clarification


lol Norman Chad, Spearmint Rhino lol.


by deuceblocker

It was a terrible shove and they should take him out of the HOF for it! Others in the HOF who don't know how to play short stacked.

Huh?

Btw I dont think its a good idea to post all buy ins. Who cares? Its honestly nobody's business, and its just people being nosy wanting to hate on the losers. We don't need to hate on the losers, we need to lift them up. Unless they have a gambling problem- then we need to help them.

If people are staking someone they think is a winning player (incorrectly) thats their problem.


by VincentVega

Huh?

Yes, things can go many ways. AJ isn't a bad hand UTG with those antes. Confirmation bias is poison.


It was a bad shove, regardless of results, but I was joking about taking him out of the HOF.


by Whiskeyjack1

where does this come from???
guy still plays today in huge cash games (successful), a 10K buy in is laughable for him, why would he only have 20%???

Some rando post in this thread, unsubstantiated.




He made another ME final table. No one else has won it and final tabled it since the 1st prize has been about $10 million.


by deuceblocker

He made another ME final table. No one else has won it and final tabled it since the 1st prize has been about $10 million.

Cada won it for 8.5 m then got 5th for 2.1 m eight years later. I'd call this close enough!


Even though there weren't a lot of entrants back in the day, Johnny Chan's achievement of winning two in a row and finishing second the year after must still be up there.

(1/152) * (1/167) * (2/178) = 1 in 2.26 million


by Zamadhi

Even though there weren't a lot of entrants back in the day, Johnny Chan's achievement of winning two in a row and finishing second the year after must still be up there.

(1/152) * (1/167) * (2/178) = 1 in 2.26 million

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by Zamadhi

Even though there weren't a lot of entrants back in the day, Johnny Chan's achievement of winning two in a row and finishing second the year after must still be up there.

(1/152) * (1/167) * (2/178) = 1 in 2.26 million

well.... ehhh.... yeah know, i mean......... c'mon brosky, a 10,000 tournament field is way, way, way different than sub two hundred runners. no matter the perspective you take on the game, on tournaments, on great play, on pure statistical luck, whatever. it just ain't the same.


by plaaynde

Yes, things can go many ways. AJ isn't a bad hand UTG with those antes. Confirmation bias is poison.

No confirmation bias here. As soon as he did it i thought hmmm what position is he in? Its not like the worst of the worst, but given the circumstances he certainly could hope for a better spot.

Whatever, he just wasn't gonna lose that day no matter what apparently. Great run , I thought when he lost his monster stack on day 3 with KK to aces he would bust. He ordered tequila and everything .


it is my understanding mizrachi is not necessarily part of the new age GTO theory/robot school of poker, he leans way more toward the good ole fashioned, exploitative, play-the-player-not-the-hand type of true grinder........

if so, natural question: does grinder's win prove that the old school form of poker is not dead, and that the GTO/robot/theory school cannot claim dominance?

or is that too broad a generalization?

would like some opinions on this. mainly because i have been desiring for many years to see an old school poker style player win this event more than any other, just to get a conversation going that GTO is not a 100% dominant way of winning in the modern age.


I had stated i enjoy his style of play because I play a similar game and his table presence is much better. Its ridiculous to think its "dead" if you're an intuitive player that still understands how to put opponents in tough spots. He might make mistakes here and there but so does everybody, regardless of their style.

The AJ shove has nothing to do with his style of play to me.


by TexasKK

it is my understanding mizrachi is not necessarily part of the new age GTO theory/robot school of poker, he leans way more toward the good ole fashioned, exploitative, play-the-player-not-the-hand type of true grinder........if so, natural question: does grinder's win prove that the old school form of poker is not dead, and that the GTO/robot/theory school cannot claim dominanc

lolsamplesize


by TexasKK

if so, natural question: does grinder's win prove that the old school form of poker is not dead, and that the GTO/robot/theory school cannot claim dominance?

Lol from a single tournament???


by Zamadhi

Even though there weren't a lot of entrants back in the day, Johnny Chan's achievement of winning two in a row and finishing second the year after must still be up there.

(1/152) * (1/167) * (2/178) = 1 in 2.26 million

Except you could start counting after the first win, (1/167) * (2/178) or one in 15 thousand. Some other combos would have been exceptional too, imagine 1, 2, 1, the comeback man, or 2, 1, 1, getting better and better. So one in a 5 thousand. Still impressive of course. Some good play in there.


Got to be one of the best final tables for making a big story. Woman makes final table. Then well known player wins, while winning his 4th PPC.


by hardinthepaint

lolsamplesize

If you want to go down that route, every live player’s sample size is ‘lol’.
The online generation seem to believe that both giving and noticing tells aren’t a thing of significance. Yet they are so desperate to be robotic and cover every inch of flesh.


by Defarse

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It might be an interesting debate whether the Main Event field in the 1980s is tougher than the Ladies Event field in 2025.


by TexasKK

if so, natural question: does grinder's win prove that the old school form of poker is not dead, and that the GTO/robot/theory school cannot claim dominance?

Winning 10/10 of all-ins certainly helps.........

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