Sklansky thread
why was it closed?
what mod closed it and why ?
2+2 protecting women beaters and suspected nonce cases
Promulgating nonsense? I think you and Mason should maybe look in the mirror, or perhaps speak with a trained mental health professional and ask them what they think. You're just being callously indifferent and, to be specific, you said "he had no influence..."Everyone has influence. These are choices we make when we interact with people. Do you think David Sklansky helped or h
I never knew her. And if I had met her, I guarantee that I would have had no interaction with her.
Also, you have no knowledge of conversations that I had with David over this and some other issues, especially at the end of his life where I have stated he wasn't of sound mind. Don't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
I never knew her. And if I had met her, I guarantee that I would have had no interaction with her.
Also, you have no knowledge of conversations that I had with David over this and some other issues, especially at the end of his life where I have stated he wasn't of sound mind. Don't make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
Narcissist says what? What are you even talking about with assumptions? I didn't make any
You don't get it and I doubt you ever will at this point. The fact that you waltz in here talking like a lawyer speaks volumes about you
Narcissist says what? What are you even talking about with assumptions? I didn't make any
You don't get it and I doubt you ever will at this point. The fact that you waltz in here talking like a lawyer speaks volumes about you
I'm not a lawyer. My degrees are in math, and people like me tend to speak in very precise ways. You obviously don't have a clue. Go insult someone else.
Mason,
I am going to say this to you because I completely understand that your autistic mind literally does not comprehend the human aspect of what is going on here.
Stop talking and responding. Just stop.
You are only digging the hole deeper. At best you are going to come off as a mild, clueless asshole. At worst, you are going to look really bad. Really bad.
What David did to Brandi is horrible. There is no defending it. There is no use in trying to justify it through ignorance. Just stay quiet. There is nothing you can say that will help you.*** you are only going to make yourself look worse to the masses of people with an empathetic bone in their body.
*** other that admitting what David did was the worst part of cruel and you were too autistic to understand it at the time and you apologize for not recognizing it at the time, but I think that requires a lift you are unable to make.
Mason, I am going to say this to you because I completely understand that your autistic mind literally does not comprehend the human aspect of what is going on here.Stop talking and responding. Just stop.You are only digging the hole deeper. At best you are going to come off as a mild, clueless *******. At worst, you are going to look really bad. Really bad.What David did to Br
Stop the autistic stuff. I understand exactly what David did and I had strong conversations with him about it. You have no clue as to what my discussions with him were.
Mason,
I am going to say this to you because I completely understand that your autistic mind literally does not comprehend the human aspect of what is going on here.
Stop talking and responding. Just stop.
I have already explained this to Mason numerous times, in as pedestrian and simplistic fashion as possible. For someone allegedly smart, he clearly cannot grasp this simple concept; the more you stir this pot, the more it's gonna stink.
But Mason's mind, for whatever reason, will not allow him to get it. So stir away he does.
You guys know Brandi’s mother blames her stepmother’s abusive email that morning for her suicide, along with her friend’s failure to take her threats to kill herself over it seriously, right?
She’s been dead over 18 years, and the traffic here is under 1% of what it was then.
Sklansky died suffering from mental illness himself and estranged from his son. The NYT isn’t going to unprint his obituary.
Mason is all but retired. He should’ve used a stronger word than “stupid” to describe David’s email to Brandi, imo.
There’s nothing to stir, nothing to stir it in, and nothing to stir it with.
You very clearly have no clue that by promulgating this nonsense you are not only insulting Brandi's memory by implying she could be swayed so strongly by some dime a dozen creepy old man type she'd been dealing with since 7th grade, but are also granting David powers that, on his very worst days, he secretly craved & lusted for, like Ephialtes wanting a uniform from Xerxes in
I thought Ephialtes wanted it from Leonidas so he could #301.
I'm not a lawyer. My degrees are in math, and people like me tend to speak in very precise ways. You obviously don't have a clue. Go insult someone else.
So you speak in very precise ways huh?
Did you forget that when you said David emailing Brandi that she should kill herself was just stupid?
Because describing that as stupid instead of morally reprehensible, embarrassing, cruel and inhumane isnt that precise Mason.
When it comes to speaking precisely about an atrocious act You obviously dont have a clue.
And when it comes to showing any sign of humanity you certainly dont have a clue at all.
Stop the autistic stuff. I understand exactly what David did and I had strong conversations with him about it. You have no clue as to what my discussions with him were.
You love telling others they have no clue but you also say you speak very precise.
So enlighten us Mason, give us a clue. How did your discussions with David about Brandi, Saura or Sue go exactly?
And please be as precise as possible, just like you say you are 😉
And if you dont want to share any details, stop the "you dont have a clue" shtick
You guys know Brandi's mother blames her stepmother's abusive email that morning for her suicide, along with her friend's failure to take her threats to kill herself over it seriously, rightShe's been dead over 18 years, and the traffic here is under 1% of what it was then. Sklansky died suffering from mental illness himself and estranged from his son. The NYT isn't going to un
Stop embarrassing yourself.
You guys know Brandi's mother blames her stepmother's abusive email that morning for her suicide, along with her friend's failure to take her threats to kill herself over it seriously, right
She's been dead over 18 years, and the traffic here is under 1% of what it was then.
Oohh her mother thinks the stepmother is to blame??
In that case, telling a depressed girl she should kill herself is perfectly fine then. Thanks for clearing that up.
And wtf does the traffic drop has to do with any of it?
Are so many people in poker so ****ing obsessed with numbers than they cant think like a ****ing normal human being anymore?
You would think otherwise intelligent people would possess the wherewithal to understand how absurd they sound in the moment, or past moments, so as to recalibrate how they choose to say/think the things they say/think in the future...
I'm not a lawyer. My degrees are in math, and people like me tend to speak in very precise ways. You obviously don't have a clue. Go insult someone else.
...but in astonishingly tone deaf fashion, this is your response
You guys know Brandi's mother blames her stepmother's abusive email that morning for her suicide, along with her friend's failure to take her threats to kill herself over it seriously, rightShe's been dead over 18 years, and the traffic here is under 1% of what it was then.
Oohh her mother thinks the stepmother is to blame??In that case, telling a depressed girl she should kill
When did I ever say it was OK?
Stop the autistic stuff. I understand exactly what David did and I had strong conversations with him about it.
Conversations cannot be "strong". They can be terse, direct, vague and many other things, but they cannot be strong.
But you want everyone to think you took action, so you threw that word in there.
From AI:
Whether a conversation can be "strong" depends entirely on whether you are looking at it through the lens of grammatical precision or rhetorical impact.
The debate you're seeing on the Two Plus Two forum centers on whether "strong" is an appropriate descriptor for an interpersonal exchange, and there are two ways to look at it:
1. The Literal/Prescriptive View
Strictly speaking, "strong" is often considered an imprecise adjective for a conversation. Critics of the phrasing, like the user in the forum, argue that "strong" is a physical or intensity-based attribute that doesn't accurately describe the nature of a dialogue. They would suggest more specific alternatives:
Terse or Direct: Focuses on the brevity and lack of fluff.
Heated or Intense: Focuses on the emotional volume.
Substantive: Focuses on the importance of the topics discussed.
Candid: Focuses on the honesty and lack of filter.
2. The Colloquial and Idiomatic View
In modern English—especially in corporate, political, or "tough-talk" settings—"strong" is frequently used as a synonym for firm, unyielding, or serious.
"We had a strong talk": Usually implies that one party was being very firm, setting clear boundaries, or delivering a stern warning.
Rhetorical Weight: Using "strong" is a way to signal that the interaction was not casual or weak without having to disclose the specific (and perhaps private) details of what was said.
Contextual Usage
In the specific context of the Sklansky thread you are viewing, the dispute is about Mason Malmuth’s use of the word to describe his interaction with David Sklansky.
The critic in the thread is arguing that the word is being used as a "filler" to project authority or action where none might actually exist. It’s a common linguistic critique: when someone says they dealt with a situation "strongly," they are describing their intent or posture rather than the actual mechanics of the conversation.
Summary: While a conversation cannot be "strong" in the way a bridge or a muscle is, it can be "strong" in terms of its assertiveness. However, if you're writing formally, you're usually better off using a more descriptive word like pointed, rigorous, or stern.
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True.
Forthright.
Chuck Palahniuk’s Choke has a recurring bit—“(…..) isn’t the right word, but it’s the first word that comes to mind.”
Mason’s usage of “strong” is an excellent (pluperfect?) example (simile?) of this.
Joe R. Lansdale’s Savage Season* features a gunrunning couple named Soldier & Angel; Soldier continually stops mid-rant to ask Angel what word he’s thinking of, cf
* Savage Season is the first novel in the Hap & Leonard series
Dennis Lehane’s Moonlight Mile** has an extremely charming & exceedingly dangerous Mordovian hitman named Yefim, who’s always eager to improve his English:
** Moonlight Mile is the final novel in the Kenzie & Gennaro series
Mason did incredible things that were good business and contributed to the poker community, with the publisher and these forums. His reputation is damaged by his association with Sklansky and his Sklansky's young girls and the Brandi scandal, etc. I don't think the expression is usually stir the pot is what causes it to stink, but I agree any discussion of this makes it worse for Mason. There is no way he can defend himself on this that will not make it worse.
From AI:Whether a conversation can be "strong" depends entirely on whether you are looking at it through the lens of grammatical precision or rhetorical impact.The debate you're seeing on the Two Plus Two forum centers on whether "strong" is an appropriate descriptor for an interpersonal exchange, and there are two ways to look at it:1. The Literal/Prescriptive ViewStrictly spe
I think the argument is whether 'strong' was the only way to describe their conversations.
Mason is probably looking for a thesaurus.
Conversations cannot be "strong". They can be terse, direct, vague and many other things, but they cannot be strong.
But you want everyone to think you took action, so you threw that word in there.
Thank you for this post, because it tells the 2+2 community that we can safely ignore anything else you say on any subject.
it's not a stretch to think that people can give strong indicators of emotion or revelation during a convo.
it's straight up stupid to nit pick this.
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