$25----->25k Bankroll Challenge on Ignition

have another fun hand here lol.. kinda freestyled this one not sure if this play is a punt or not but seems like his range is capped and air heavy and mine is not

Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 319.6 BB
BB: 125.2 BB
UTG: 102.56 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 117.12 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♥ A♥

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, SB raises to 11.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 9.8 BB, fold

Flop: (26.6 BB, 2 players) 7♦ T♠ 8♠
SB checks, Hero bets 5.04 BB, SB calls 5.04 BB

Turn: (36.68 BB, 2 players) 7♥
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (36.68 BB, 2 players) K♦
SB bets 26.68 BB, Hero raises to 83.16 BB and is all-in

Yeah it's good. Solver won't like it because Tx is 0EV and you block it but solver outputs are really unrealistic in these spots.

I don't have exact data for it since it's squeezed but I do have BlindsvsCO XC30-X-B Range and Folding Range.

We see Folding Frequencies at 68% (173 hand sample but the discrepancy is too big) in XC30-X-B70F

At 100bb stacks and assume 12bb 3bet the alpha should be risk/risk+reward or 80 to win 70 so 53% or so. You have a 15% cushion 😀

Nice hand.

A cool thing you can do as well is compare the bluff catching formula to the bluff raising formula

Bluff catching formula = Edge (call + bet + pot)
Bluff raising formula = Edge (raise + bet + pot)

You can see really quickly how raising is much better than calling - even with your 0EV bluff catchers.

If he is 30 weak in GTO at B70 and 33 weak in reality your edge is 3%

If Alpha is 53% and they fold 68% your edge is 15% with the bluff raise.

This proves bluff raising will always be better than bluff catching with 0EV hands.

In Ether Patrick Howard talks about showdown bias, now I haven't seen anyone correctly calculate it for an exact spot but it won't exceed 5% so showdown bias is not viable argument for just calling imo.

awesome analysis thanks man, I thought about calling but it felt bad since we chop with AQ which prob bluffs the K river high frequency and obv pure folds to jam. I think the pairing turn helps since I have a ton of boats that check back turn (and I do x boats alot on turn in game so I won't just have a bluff here xD)

If you aren't sure what to do in this spot check out this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApG7gM34plQ&t=7s

YouTube

Hand History Review using MDA for every street

This hand explained using GTO Wizard and some MDA.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO ($30) [VPIP: 28.3% | PFR: 23.6% | AGG: 37.8% | Flop Agg: 39.9% | Turn Agg: 35.3% | River Agg: 42.1% | 3Bet: 10.6% | Fold to 3Bet: 55.7% | 4Bet: 12% | Hands: 144443]
SB ($37.22) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]
BB ($19.18) [VPIP: 25.6% | PFR: 14.6% | AGG: 34.1% | Hands: 264]
UTG ($25.59) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 19.2% | AGG: 22.4% | Hands: 526]
HJ ($25) [VPIP: 22.9% | PFR: 19.3% | AGG: 40.4% | Flop Agg: 53.5% | Turn Agg: 32.1% | River Agg: 30% | 3Bet: 12.7% | 4Bet: 30.8% | Hands: 334]
CO ($30) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 18.7% | AGG: 27.4% | Hands: 573]

Dealt to Hero: A♥ 3♥

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.50, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $1.91, SB Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $1.41

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.54 effective]
Flop ($4.17): 4♠ 6♠ J♣
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $2.08 (Rem. Stack: $26.01), HJ Calls $2.08 (Rem. Stack: $21.01)

Turn ($8.33): 4♠ 6♠ J♣ J♦
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $5.06 (Rem. Stack: $20.95), HJ Calls $5.06 (Rem. Stack: $15.95)

River ($18.45): 4♠ 6♠ J♣ J♦ 6♥
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $20.95 (allin)

Video here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ken_Rae...

Yo Doodoo (love the name btw)! Really enjoyed the analysis on the above hand. Just curious as to how you're producing those aggregate stats. Is that via reports using something like pokertracker?

Thanks

The MDA I use is from my old CFP. They used Hand2Note and a database of 245 million hands.

Got it. It seems as though those alpha stats are based on general lines (folds vs x b x for example). Curious as to what your thoughts are on potentially misusing this information as surely these stats change significant from board to board. Did your CFP use more granular analysis to be more board-specific as well?

Yeah you can definitely go as granular as you want but sample size can be a problem.

So for instance in this spot we know from MDA the biggest folds vs xc-xc-x lines as 3BP OOP PFC are on Triple Broadway Rivers/River Overcard/3rd or 4th to flush.

Underfolds to the aggregate are Ace high boards.

The folding frequencies will change based on the board. It's good to know theory here because sometimes we need to give up OTR if it's a pure give up in theory on some board types (Ace high boards + paired rivers is a good example)

I don't have the exact data for every spot so I use general data if I don't have the specific data.

Solver jams, we jam.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($27.33) [VPIP: 21.4% | PFR: 17.8% | AGG: 21.2% | Hands: 1168]
SB ($8.13) [VPIP: 16.1% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 31]
BB ($25.25) [VPIP: 18.9% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 27.3% | Flop Agg: 30.1% | Turn Agg: 26.4% | River Agg: 26.1% | 3Bet: 10.3% | 4Bet: 14.3% | Cold Call: 8.1% | Hands: 1492]
UTG ($21.24) [VPIP: 58.2% | PFR: 8.8% | AGG: 42.7% | Hands: 173]
HJ ($25) [VPIP: 12.3% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 66]
HERO ($30.43) [VPIP: 28.3% | PFR: 23.5% | AGG: 37.7% | Flop Agg: 39.8% | Turn Agg: 35.3% | River Agg: 42.1% | 3Bet: 10.6% | 4Bet: 12% | Hands: 145407]

Dealt to Hero: T♣ T♥

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.5 effective]
Flop ($1.10): J♥ 9♣ 3♠
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($1.10): J♥ 9♣ 3♠ 7♥
BB Bets $0.82 (Rem. Stack: $23.93), HERO Calls $0.82 (Rem. Stack: $29.11)

River ($2.74): J♥ 9♣ 3♠ 7♥ Q♦
BB Bets $1.64 (Rem. Stack: $22.29), HERO Raises To $29.11 (allin), BB Folds

I haven't updated in awhile.

25NL Blitz results so far:

25NL Bomb pot tables/reg tables (mostly bomb pot tables).

I started a YT channel. Please subscribe if you like Theory/MDA/cool hand histories/funny meme thumbnails.

Link here:

https://www.youtube.com/@DooDooPoker/vid...

i think you're going to struggle finding a large audience with such niche content on youtube, but the last thing we need is another "so i get the jiggities" vlogger so i genuinely wish you goodluck in the space - haven't watched anything yet (planning on it) but am subbed in the meantime

i think playing higher stakes would probably help channel growth, i know i'm a broken record here, but a lot of your insights are undermined by the "if he isn't full of it and these are real then why is he playing microstakes?"

i would try reaching out to some better known youtubers offering to do a free mda coaching session that is filmed in order to cross promote and grow - they get some free coaching and a fresh new style of content for their own channel and you get exposed to some of their audience

glgl

Thanks rickroll.

You bring up a lot of good points. For instance. I am only playing 25nl - why should you listen to me?

In the videos I use GTO Wizard and MDA so it's a bit more scientific in that way because it's not really me giving an opinion. It's more me following the data and forming an opinion from the solver/mda outputs.

Good idea on reaching out to other people. Thanks for subbing.

From the perspective of someone that likes your mda content and finds it very helpful, I have to say the audience that will regularly consume your content is probably going to be more serious regulars rather than the masses which are just youtube fish and live players. I obviously would selfishly rather watch your current style of content but if you wanted to really blow up you'd prob have to do more click baity things that attract the fish like "10X POT BLUFF ALL IN RAISE?!" and get a bunch of highlights of you going for crazy bluffs.

Yeah that’s a good point.

I don’t really have a plan right now with the channel but I don’t want to really do the click bait stuff. I’m going to continue doing the same thing for now.

Let me know if you have any ideas as well.

I enjoy the current format. Valuable and straight to the point.

Also a fan of the bitesize, scattergun approach thus far. At some point I’ll catch up I imagine, but you’re competing with women teaching chess.

Hey I had a question in your most recent video regarding fish 3bet pots, I notice fish have low %3b on average, esp in this pool like (5-6%) sometimes. Vs these guys how wide do you call compared to GTO? Their range contains random sht sometimes but they also seem to be decently aggressive postflop. My intuition is that if fish has lower vpip/pfr their range will be more linear and less scattered even if their 3b% is the same?

Fish don't properly size for their 3bets (usually they go too small) so we call more than GTO on average.

As far as aggression, yes they are aggressive but they slowplay value too much.

I'll do some more fish videos on how to deal with fish aggression but since they slow play strong hands postflop we get to call more fringe hands preflop.

Sorry, this is a bit of an off topic post but I wanted to bring attention to the bot problem on ignition and your thread has a lot of traffic haha. I moved my roll from iggy back to ACR about a month ago since the amount of bots in the zone pools were pretty insane. I faced very unusual aggression in alot of commonly underbluffed spots and alot of the bots were also doing things like opening to 3BB or playing polar cbet strategies, posted some hand samples and data here if anyone was curious:

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/...

Doing this in hope that sites clean up their bot problems (seems at least ACR is doing a better job these days?) since online poker could definitely use some improvements on security.

And IK alot of yall probably know this about ignition already but just in case some are still unaware that they are not playing vs humans a significant amount of the time.

I’m not sure what’s going on with YT today. I had a video scheduled and it just disappeared.

Maybe YT is glitching and it will show up later today.

If it doesn’t show up by tomorrow I’ll manually upload it and there will just be two videos instead of one for Monday.

Sorry about that. I’m trying to have a daily video.

Not directed at a specific hand, but I have seen a few hands here and a few on your YouTube. I noticed that you seem to play a good amount of flatting of 4bets OOP as SB and BB. GTO Wizard has some preflop only solutions for 25NL (8bb cap) and 10NL (15bb cap) 25 Blitz is 12bb cap. I have noticed that at 100-125bb in the higher rake environments, SB and BB when OOP facing a 4b are close to 5bet or fold the entire range with almost no cold calling. This is most true facing BU and CO open and 4bet. For example, here is the sim for 100bb, btn open 2.5, bb 3b 13.5, btn 4b 28.5:

Another thing to note is that at high rake solver prioritizes 3betting hands based on blockers and not postflop playability. Whereas at low rake it likes to 3bet-call with suited connectors, suited broadways, AQo bb vs btn, it mainly 3bet folds hands like K2s, Q2s, J5d, A5o. Anything that can profitably 3b-call, it would much rather just call the open and not 3b (AJs, 65s, etc). AQ+, KQs, and all the pocket pairs, even low ones are 3bet-jamming.

Have you considered using the high rake preflop charts? Are there good reasons to deviate in this pool?

On a side note, I like the fact that there is a 125bb preflop sim available in GTO Wizard since the max buy in on blitz is actually 120bb.

have another interesting spot here for you lol, sb is 19/14 vpip/pfr fish

Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97.56 BB
SB: 119.64 BB
Hero (BB): 152.4 BB
UTG: 103.64 BB
MP: 121 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ A♥

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.6 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, SB calls 10 BB

Flop: (26 BB, 2 players) 2♦ J♥ 3♥
SB checks, Hero bets 8.16 BB, SB calls 8.16 BB

Turn: (42.32 BB, 2 players) 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets 30.16 BB, SB calls 30.16 BB

River: (102.64 BB, 2 players) T♥
SB bets 69.32 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Feels very close here, not really sure if the donk bet is merged enough for us to call

Thanks for the sims.

I used to follow preflop charts pretty religiously but I've been deviating a lot from GTO the more I study the game. I think it's hard to quantify perceived edge in game and there are also considerations like rakeback/bonus money/leaderboards that the sims can't account for.

I always run my my hands at 500nl rake for a better or worse, my reasoning is I will eventually move up and I don't want to have to study the same sims twice as high rake environments can have much different outputs than reasonable rake environments.

On my YT channel you won't hear me talk too much about preflop as it is rather low hanging fruit and I'm more interested in postflop concepts.

Good hand. I'll make a video on this one 😀

wrt to the lost video on sunday. I'll just schedule it for another day. It's nowhere to be found when I go to manage videos.

Good video today identifying whether our opponent is a reg or fish. If you aren't sure what to do here.

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxfkBMJ...