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Started with a $1/$2nl challenge, now we're here.

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284 posts · member since Dec 2012
13yr ago

😮WARNING!! IMA 2+2 VIRGIN!! FIRST DAY AT THIS!! FIRST THREAD!!

The Goal is Simple - $40k in One Year (

30 December 2012 at 03:57 PM
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1yr ago

I'm going to lock this back up. When you decide where you're going to post, be it here or in a new thread, let me know and I'll open it up for you to let people know or I'll post a link in here for you.

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submersible
2yr ago

you aren't really any of those things though. you recreationally play poker a few times a week and have gone out of your way to approach it as unseriously as possible. you don't actually own rental properties, you had one 6 unit apartment building 10 years ago that you sold to gamble on stocks and buy a house lol. you had a small spurt of day trading where it seems like you tilt chased all of your money during an awful macro / rates period because you were upset that you had less money than a year ago. you definitely aren't an investor, you don't have any assets except 50% of 50% of a house you can't afford and some sports cards.

the semi retired thing is the weirdest part of your identity though and i think it's why so many people in this thread have tried to talk to you. you're acting like a 20 year old where 300k is all of the money in the world. you have an ok nest egg but nowhere close to retirement / do nothing for the rest of your life / fu money. even if you were a single guy you wouldn't have nearly enough money to live off of forever. the fact you got 3 kids, a wife, and impulse control / materialism (self esteem tbh) issues means you probably have 4-5 years until you have literally no money (assuming you pull the equity out of the house) at the rate you're going. like you can post a million random challenges in the thread that you take super seriously for 72 hours and drop the next week - im going to day trade!, im going to be a poker pro!, im going to lose 30 pounds!, im going to be a runner!, im going to be a pickleball court builder!, im going to collect all the rookie cards!, im going to buy a tesla!, im going to buy a rivian! but you just seem to be in denial about the state of your life. you don't need challenges to force yourself to work, you are going to have to do something to make money at some point in the very near future.

instead you just keep trying to come up with these wishful thinking lotto mentality type things - im going to be a day trader (anything less than a million dollar position is boring to me!), im going to be a poker pro, im going to invent something, where you stumble into a huge pile of money with zero effort. you dont really seem keen on putting in work into any of them and just fantasize that they will work out. its like something a child does lol. i get that that mentality worked out for you with the mana trade, but i cannot stress enough how much luck was involved in that. you had absolutely 0 risk management and put all of your money into an "asset" you didn't understand (literally zero regard for price / tokenomics / general market trends and pretty much no real knowledge or experience in crypto) and managed to return a 5x on your net worth over like a 3 week period during peak speculative fever / crypto bubble / 0 interest rate environment. that isn't replicatable and was an awful decision that worked out well. pretty good evidence of that is how much you gave back on the back end between xlm / the day trading debacle last year. its the poker equivalent of winning an mtt and deciding to quit your job and go pro.

idk i know alot of this is unsolicited but you just seem lost from the outside. its obvious poker isn't really the answer for you to anyone thats objective. you dont actually do anything that pros do and go out of your way to not have a schedule, play bad hours, cap your upside to an unsustainable earn by refusing to try to move up past 1/3, don't study, drink before / while you play (especially during shots!), not talk about strategy or try to learn and follow current trends, and hit and run to preserve your ego. you don't have the disicpline imo to be in a cash intensive business. look how quickly you've torched your net worth whenever you've had access to piles of money in the past on dumb things. if you're looking for more recent evidence, buying a single 2k dog while you claim to be in back against the wall me vs the world i have to make this 30k last forever mode would be ridiculous. the fact you bought two when your family didn't even want that so you could get more attention or a better story for this thread or whatever it is that guides your decision making process is sheer insanity.

anyways idk man. i know this doesn't really answer your question of what you should call yourself but maybe its worth thinking about. sorry if its annoying, i wouldn't have posted a follow up if you didn't respond to the first one....

slyless avatarslyless
1yr ago

The thread is open by OP's request....

JRH
1yr ago
by luckboxxed

Just bumping this thread in case Rayz decides to do another challenge - maybe a PLO one? LolSeriously though, he seemed to be in quite a bit of financial stress (some or most of which he put on himself) and hope that he is in a better space, physically and mentally. Anyone, who sees him at the tables, tell him that he should update this thread with his latest advice/insights -

I played next to Rayz the other day in a $1/$2 game at Southern Indiana. After a little while i asked him about the thread, what he's up to, etc. He said he had no plans to update the thread. He said he's playing poker and he and Bags have started a little landscaping business. They're doing season work. Cutting grass in the summer, raking leaves in the Fall, snow in the winter.

He said he's hoping Trump wins because he has gone all in on the energy stocks and he's hoping those will pop with a Trump win....