Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
Ok.
You wonder why your guy won?
What standard? Joe stood on his principles and received a fat loogie to the face for doing so.
I challenge anyone who is pretending to care about this Hunter Biden pardon to find at least one Trump pardon that is significantly worse. Have one moment of honesty with yourself and the world you pathetic losers.
You know, like maybe this guy, who I found by random sliding my scroll wheel and stopping
Here is the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pe... . Now is your chance for a sliver of redemption
(My bold prediction is that zero pathetic losers will take the opportunity to have a moment of true honesty with themselves and the world)
Trump? Well, he's clearly just a cut above the rest. Hard to argue with that:
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I haven't looked through the list, but I know at least one of his pardons was Obama pardon that had some clerical error and that is likely more innocuous than Hunter to pretty much everyone.
Point being, I'm willing to admit that pardoning Hunter is probably "worse" than some, but doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of worst.
So lets see if anyone else is willing to be honest
( I can already tell the pathetic losers aren't exactly champing at the bit to prove they aren't pathetic pathological losers)
What standard? Joe stood on his principles and received a fat loogie to the face for doing so.
I challenge anyone who is pretending to care about this Hunter Biden pardon to find at least one Trump pardon that is significantly worse. Have one moment of honesty with yourself and the world you pathetic losers.
You know, like maybe this guy, who I found by random sliding my scroll wheel and stopping
Here is the list:
It's not the quality of the people being pardoned. It's the abuse of the pardoning power by the president.
Obvisouly we think trump is worse. Who the hell do we think that's going to impress. Oh we may do X while denying but you openly do much worse X - ****ing awesome
It's not the quality of the people being pardoned. It's the abuse of the pardoning power by the president.
Obvisouly we think trump is worse. Who the hell do we think that's going to impress. Oh we may do X while denying but you openly do much worse X - ****ing awesome
All pardons are abuse. That is how a pardon works. Its usurping the judicial system through executive power.
The world isn't black and white. Eliminating all nuance from the world is kind of what Republicans want.
IE:
Democrats held to a strict standard
Republicans not held to any standard at all
That isn't an equitable world we should want to live in.
Anyways, my whole point is to get these posters to lift the veil for a literal moment and show the rest of the forum they have an ounce of principle and aren't just relentless larps. My hypothesis is that this is impossible for these posters and they will refuse.
If it hasnt been made 100% clear why this is my hypothesis, its because I think all of these posters are pathetic cowards who lie to themselves just as much, if not more, than they lie to the rest of the world
I haven't looked through the list, but I know at least one of his pardons was Obama pardon that had some clerical error and that is likely more innocuous than Hunter to pretty much everyone.
Point being, I'm willing to admit that pardoning Hunter is probably "worse" than some, but doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of worst.
So lets see if anyone else is willing to be honest
( I can already tell the pathetic losers aren't exactly champing at the bit to prove they aren't pathetic pathologic
Right. But what you wrote was the opposite. I think you missed a word.
I'm challenging them to acknowledge that one single Trump pardon was worse than the Biden pardon.
I would assume that half of them are worse. Or more than half. I'm just looking for these clowns to acknowledge one, thus making my ask incredibly easy
All pardons are abuse. That is how a pardon works. Its usurping the judicial system through executive power.
The world isn't black and white. Eliminating all nuance from the world is kind of what Republicans want.
IE:
Democrats held to a strict standard
Republicans not held to any standard at all
That isn't an equitable world we should want to live in.
Anyways, my whole point is to get these posters to lift the veil for a literal moment and show the rest of the forum they have an ounce of princip
A pardon should be to correct a wrong. And it should avoid privilege .
In the uk for example we had pardons for people convicted of homosexuality. Som erefused (a separate point) but clearly not an abuse of power.
#BlueMaga going strong today
I haven't looked through the list, but I know at least one of his pardons was Obama pardon that had some clerical error and that is likely more innocuous than Hunter to pretty much everyone.
Point being, I'm willing to admit that pardoning Hunter is probably "worse" than some, but doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of worst.
So lets see if anyone else is willing to be honest
( I can already tell the pathetic losers aren't exactly champing at the bit to prove they aren't pathetic pathologic
I'm challenging them to acknowledge that one single Trump pardon was worse than the Biden pardon.
I would assume that half of them are worse. Or more than half. I'm just looking for these clowns to acknowledge one, thus making my ask incredibly easy
Maybe the third time is a charm?
I'm challenging them to acknowledge that one single Trump pardon was worse than the Biden pardon.
There seems to be the opposite of a magnetic attraction between you and the point. Many of Trump's pardons were more egregious than Biden's pardon of Hunter.
A few were not. But why does it matter whether Trump's pardons were worse when assessing whether we think Joe Biden should have pardoned Hunter Biden?
Hi, you seem to be having issues with reading comprehension.
"I challenge you to find one instance that is not significantly worse"
IE: I think all of Trumps pardons were significantly worse
"I challenge you to find one instance that is significantly worse"
IE: I can acknowledge that the Hunter pardon is worse than some but doesn't even scratch the surface of the worst
I was kind of hoping we could get to the comparison of "This guy ordered innocent young men to become murderers and eventually received a pardon because murdering middle easterners isn't that big of a deal to Republicans" and "Hunter biden occasionally does cocaine and/or crack in the privacy of his own home"
There seems to be the opposite of a magnetic attraction between you and the point. When assessing whether we think Joe Biden should have pardoned Hunter Biden, why does it matter whether Trump's pardons were worse?
Well, I thought it was pretty obvious that if a series of events happened like:
I say "I will never call the cops"
Then someone says "I will invade your house with a gun"
Then my statement about never calling the cops sure seems stupid in retrospect
Can you see how that is what happened here?
The people upset at Biden for pardoning Hunter have my full support in not voting for Biden ever again. I understand your point and will not argue with you should you choose to hold him accountable for his decision.
If you're upset at anyone but Biden, I have no idea why. Only one person made that decision.
Do try to keep some perspective, though. It's not as if he appointed him the ambassador to France or something.
Biden clearly should have just waited around and hoped Trump did "the right thing"
Hi, you seem to be having issues with reading comprehension.
"I challenge you to find one instance that is not significantly worse"
IE: I think all of Trumps pardons were significantly worse
Cool, but you said this:
I challenge anyone who is pretending to care about this Hunter Biden pardon to find at least one Trump pardon that is significantly worse.
Read this post of yours as many times as it takes for you to see that this sentence is the opposite of what you actually meant to say, hence why d2 was telling you that you were missing the word "not" in your sentence.
Hi, you seem to be having issues with reading comprehension.
"I challenge you to find one instance that is not significantly worse"
IE: I think all of Trumps pardons were significantly worse
"I challenge you to find one instance that is significantly worse"
IE: I can acknowledge that the Hunter pardon is worse than some but doesn't even scratch the surface of the worst
I was kind of hoping we could get to the comparison of "This guy ordered innocent young men to become murderers and eventually receiv
Of all the pardons Trump issued did he say leading up to the pardons I will never pardon this individual multiple times?
Well, I thought it was pretty obvious that if a series of events happened like:
I say "I will never call the cops"
Then someone says "I will invade your house with a gun"
Then my statement about never calling the cops sure seems stupid in retrospect
Can you see how that is what happened here?
This is a terrible analogy, because your statement about not calling the cops was stupid not just in retrospect, it was stupid at the time it was made.
Cool, but you said this:
Read this post of yours as many times as it takes for you to see that this sentence is the opposite of what you actually meant to say, hence why d2 was telling you that you were missing the word "not" in your sentence.
I get his point, but his original wording was rather inelegant for the point he was making.
There seems to be the opposite of a magnetic attraction between you and the point. Many of Trump's pardons were more egregious than Biden's pardon of Hunter.
A few were not. But why does it matter whether Trump's pardons were worse when assessing whether we think Joe Biden should have pardoned Hunter Biden?
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Not sure why anyone would care whether he pardoned Hunter except to judge his character. Hunter's crimes were not egregious, so I don't think anyone's seriously worried about him being set free. As for Joe and his character, he's fine worrying about what you think of him, so go right agreed and think less of him. I do a little bit, and it works certainly affect my decision about if I'll ever vote for him in the future should he run for an office. Beyond that, everything else is performative, and everyone knows it.
