Donald J. Trump (For everyone else except Victor)
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Oh, the old "he was a great president if you just erase covid."
Well, sorry, son, but a president has to deal with everything that comes his way during his term, and he failed hard.
No it's simply that POTUS has no power to do what you guys thought should have been done to "manage covid". He can't deal with something that constitutionally is a state/local matter ffs, same as house prices (where the only thing a potus can do is remove the federal government from the picture).
States do have all the powers for that. And democrat led states all performed horribly worse economically, objectively so. It was the biggest clearest divide showing how objectively infinitely worse democrats tradeoff preferences are for the economy. A clear indelebile picture that will forever make it clear that democrats are truly utterly worse at the economy than republicans.
It wasn't Biden fault if schools stayed closed in democrat states too much , same thing: it was those states/localities fault
No it's simply that POTUS has no power to do what you guys thought should have been done to "manage covid". He can't deal with something that constitutionally is a state/local matter ffs, same as house prices (where the only thing a potus can do is remove the federal government from the picture).
States do have all the powers for that. And democrat led states all performed horribly worse economically, objectively so. It was the biggest clearest divide showing how objectively infinitely worse demo
What are you talking about when you say "you guys thought should have been done" and why are you applying it to me?
I'm simply saying that presidents can't choose what happens on their watch; they can only choose how they respond to it and he responded poorly.
You obviously must agree with that since you're saying he was a great president if you remove covid from his presidency. You wouldn't need that qualifier if he was a great president.
Lucy looking for any reason to say ‘SS’ in a positive light seems above board
What are you talking about when you say "you guys thought should have been done" and why are you applying it to me?
I'm simply saying that presidents can't choose what happens on their watch; they can only choose how they respond to it and he responded poorly.
You obviously must agree with that since you're saying he was a great president if you remove covid from his presidency. You wouldn't need that qualifier if he was a great president.
What within his power would have made a significant difference to the economy, given that the differences in nov 2020 in republican and democrat states were already exceptionally large?
I said things were very fine under him ex-covid, and i called it the OBAMA-TRUMP economy lol.
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Breaking news: The Trump administration has pressured Romanian authorities to lift travel restrictions on the self-described misogynist influencer Andrew Tate, a champion of the US president who is facing criminal charges in Bucharest.
What within his power would have made a significant difference to the economy, given that the differences in nov 2020 in republican and democrat states were already exceptionally large?
I said things were very fine under him ex-covid, and i called it the OBAMA-TRUMP economy lol.
Why do you assume I'm talking about the economy? Hint: I'm not talking about the economy at all. The economy would have tanked regardless of whom was president so that's a non-factor.
Why do you assume I'm talking about the economy? Hint: I'm not talking about the economy at all. The economy would have tanked regardless of whom was president so that's a non-factor.
Ok so you list a series of *economical disasters* that will according to you convince trump voters at the end of this term that they didn't vote for it, but you weren't talking about the economy.
If every governor was RDS (or even better Kristie Noem) the economy would have tanked far less.
Ok so you list a series of *economical disasters* that will according to you convince trump voters at the end of this term that they didn't vote for it, but you weren't talking about the economy.
If every governor was RDS (or even better Kristie Noem) the economy would have tanked far less.
Huh? What do my reasons for why I think Trump failed at covid have to do with Trump voters in 2024?
This is it. Once Trumpers lose their farms, social security, supplemental security, grocery bills increase 50%, lose their marketplace health insurance, lose consumer protections that affect them and so on, they'll come around.
Not come around to the degree of regretting their vote (that would be admitting that the warnings were correct), but just say that it's not what they voted for.
I’m hoping dems continue this type of “Armageddon is coming if you vote trump/repub” in the future, but is seems doubtful they won’t catch on at some point that voters aren’t quite as stupid as they believe.
Why do you assume I'm talking about the economy? Hint: I'm not talking about the economy at all. The economy would have tanked regardless of whom was president so that's a non-factor.
I don’t think you could find many economists that aren’t paid directly or indirectly by the govt that would say a dem president would have been as good or better than trump for the economy long-term during COVID. Covid did not cause inflation - what govts across the globe did in reaction to COVID (increased the money supply at 3x its normal rate for 2 yrs, throw that money into the economy & tried their best to shut down as much of the economy for as long as they could) was what caused inflation.
I’m hoping dems continue this type of “Armageddon is coming if you vote trump/repub” in the future, but is seems doubtful they won’t catch on at some point that voters aren’t quite as stupid as they believe.
Why can’t it just be the case that the warning of the excesses of Trump leads to correction against Trump’s worst problems? It’s not necessarily a great argument that salient Democrat criticism of Trump in real time is completely unwarranted or useless because it could just be the case that absent this criticism Trump would continue down the hopeless paths that he oftentimes suggests we go down.
I mean that’s the entire point of political criticism, to actually prevent bad outcomes or injustices in real time.
Additionally, look at Republican reactions to the Obama or Biden administration. They were similarly insistent that those administrations would lead to collapse or civil injustice, and it never affected the viability of the Republican party. Plus a lot of this is based off of pointing at demographic data. It was conventional wisdom during the Obama administration that the Republicans would never compete in an election again due to changing demographics. I think the problem with these arguments remain the same from when they were applied previously: it’s really hard to take retrospective data and turn it into predictive results. The signal to noise ratio is nearly too much of a burden to overcome.
I’m hoping dems continue this type of “Armageddon is coming if you vote trump/repub” in the future, but is seems doubtful they won’t catch on at some point that voters aren’t quite as stupid as they believe.
It has nothing to do with that. If you make aggressive changes in a personal business and you're wrong, you've sunk your ship; if you make aggressive changes in a government and you're wrong, you've sunk everyone's ship. So far, they have proven to not have a clue wtf they're doing.
Combine that with Elon datamining everyone's information (including the government's), who knows what the fukk is going to happen, as you'd have to be a blind ****** to think he's not doing this for his own personal gain.
I don’t think you could find many economists that aren’t paid directly or indirectly by the govt that would say a dem president would have been as good or better than trump for the economy long-term during COVID. Covid did not cause inflation - what govts across the globe did in reaction to COVID (increased the money supply at 3x its normal rate for 2 yrs, throw that money into the economy & tried their best to shut down as much of the economy for as long as they could) was what caused inflatio
Right. And cardiac arrest doesn't cause death; it's how the body reacts to cardiac arrest that causes death. 🙄
I don’t think you could find many economists that aren’t paid directly or indirectly by the govt that would say a dem president would have been as good or better than trump for the economy long-term during COVID. Covid did not cause inflation - what govts across the globe did in reaction to COVID (increased the money supply at 3x its normal rate for 2 yrs, throw that money into the economy & tried their best to shut down as much of the economy for as long as they could) was what cau
Flip-flopping, incompetence and indecision in the early onset of the pandemic likely sent an extra quarter of a million American to an early grave needlessly and probably cost you an extra trillion dollars.
Trump is an incompetent moron surrounded by yes-men and corroded public institutions. Such people can get by just fine politically by bullshitting voters and supporters, especially in the age of social media. As is evident from this forum, they can even have a large cadre of loyal supporters who think they can do no wrong. But in times of crises reality will come knocking, and it doesn't really care about likes on Twitter.
Cool. Sorry.
As far as voting, despite what the Trumpers believe, I only got one vote, and not being in a swing state, it didn't matter at all.
Do you have a PayPal or revolut account? I can deposit 50c in it if you like and that way you can ring someone who actually cares whether you believe me or not, I. E. someone who isn't me? Your country's policy on migration is none of my business and thinking I'm lying when I profess apathy is some breath taking arrogance and egomania on your part.
Hate to burst your everyone-is-obsessed-with-America bubble but you're just not that important enough for me to care about your domestic policies, sorry.
It is tiresome enough when anyone claims to speak for non existent monolith 'the people', but it's quite laughable and honestly remarkably paternalizing to see this italian perennially onlineman implying he knows what the normal american thinks better than anyone else
The Trump administration apparently is pressuring Romania to lift travel restrictions on the Tate brothers.
Trump isn't even pretending to care any more. If you are a public figure and you support Trump expressly or implicitly, then he is willing to intervene on your behalf. It doesn't matter what you have done. If Jared from Subway had been a big Trump supporter before he was arrested, he'd probably be working in the State Department right now.
It has nothing to do with that. If you make aggressive changes in a personal business and you're wrong, you've sunk your ship; if you make aggressive changes in a government and you're wrong, you've sunk everyone's ship. So far, they have proven to not have a clue wtf they're doing.
There isn't one person who has run a business for a long time that hasn't made mistakes - they don't all get their "ship sunk".
You are worried that cutting gov't spending aggressively is going to sink the gov't or the US economy? If this is a serious concern of yours you should read what economists are saying that aren't paid by the govt.
Combine that with Elon datamining everyone's information (including the government's), who knows what the fukk is going to happen, as you'd have to be a blind ****** to think he's not doing this for his own personal gain.
Have you ever read the little boy who cried wolf?
Trump is a ruled by Russsia. We are going to be in a nuclear war if trump is president because he will control the nuclear code. Now it is Elon is going to have data that thousands of govt workers have that I have never bothered to do a background check on or even worried about, but Elon is friends with trump so he is probably to go put all of our info on the internet.
You all are the type of people I would target if I was going to start a doomsday cult.
Yep
In recent weeks, the department dropped a case against former Nebraska Republican Congressman Jeff Fortenberry. Prosecutors in Nashville withdrew from an investigation against Republican Congressman Andy Ogles, who introduced a bill that would clear the way for Trump to serve a third term in office. And last Friday, the Justice Department moved to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. Adams is a Democrat but has said he's open to cooperating with Trump's immigration policies, including on deportations.
Stephen Saltzburg, a Justice Department veteran from the Reagan and Bush 41 eras, says the word "alarm" is an understatement about what's happening at the department: Prosecutors seem to be backing away from cases against people with ties to President Trump.
"They're patterns that we haven't really seen in the past actions of the Department of Justice," he said. "And none of the patterns inspire a lot of confidence that the department is being evenhanded in its approach to cases."
Last I checked, filing a business BK isn't a crime, and they were all Chapter 11's on his hotels and casinos, mostly of which were hurt when PA authorized casinos.
A Chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the best interests of the business and in no way a reflection of a poorly run company.
Donald Trump, the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, has come under fire from both the media and the other candidates for his business record. Although Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, he has reportedly filed for business bankruptcy at least four times. Trump responded to the criticism by arguing that businesses often have to file for bankruptcy and that filing for bankruptcy was a financially sound move each time he did it. In fact, during the September 16 Republican debate, Trump observed that “hundreds of companies” have done the same thing. PolitiFact, the Tampa Bay Times’ award-winning fact-checking blog, recently analyzed the claims, from both sides, about Donald Trump’s business bankruptcies in an article straightforwardly titled “Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump’s four bankruptcies.” The website found that there is validity to many of Trump’s points about business bankruptcy being in the best interests of companies. Trump has filed for business bankruptcy four times: the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991, Trump Plaza Hotel in 1992, Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 and Trump Entertainment Resorts in 2009. Each time, the bankruptcy was a Chapter 11 filing. While Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcy deal with personal bankruptcies, Chapter 11 is most often used by businesses filing for bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcy allows a financially struggling business to reorganize in order to keep going. A Chapter 11 filing can potentially enable a business owner to avoid liquidating the company. In fact, it can often be said that a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the best interests of the business and in no way a reflection of a poorly run company. PolitiFact took a look at all four of Trump’s Chapter 11 bankruptcies and determined that they were a result of business struggles largely beyond the billionaire-turned-presidential-candidate’s control. Like Trump in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009, you may be considering filing for bankruptcy due to circumstances largely beyond your control.
The average trumper is too stupid to see the republican party is not doing anything in their best interest.
https://apnews.com/article/medicaid-cuts...
But Republicans, who are looking to slash federal spending and offer lucrative tax cuts to corporations and wealthier Americans
As it should be obvious by now, this purge has nothing to do with saving the government money.
The attempted coup continues.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice...
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump has nominated the interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — a "Stop the Steal" organizer who advocated for Jan. 6 defendants — to be the district's top prosecutor on a permanent basis.
Trump made the announcement less than three days after the nominee, Ed Martin, posted that he would be investigating Jack Smith and a law firm that gave the former special counsel pro bono legal services.
Martin wrote in an email Friday evening that he had received an exception to the Trump administration's hiring freeze to bring on new assistant U.S. attorneys.
Do you have a PayPal or revolut account? I can deposit 50c in it if you like and that way you can ring someone who actually cares whether you believe me or not, I. E. someone who isn't me? Your country's policy on migration is none of my business and thinking I'm lying when I profess apathy is some breath taking arrogance and egomania on your part.
Hate to burst your everyone-is-obsessed-with-America bubble but you're just not that important enough for me to care about your domestic policies,
I wasn't being sarcastic.
