President Donald Trump

I think It's time to watch the movie Dave. Imagine if Trump is incapacitated and they don't want to push Vance up because he sucks so they get an imposter and the imposter is actually a good human and gets rid of all of the **** and puts all of his handlers in jail for treason.

Actually, what I would like to see is the imposter release all of the Epstein files and EVERYONE who ****ed kids goes to jail. I think we'd probably have a relatively new government after that.

I am not underestimating anything, if say Trump dies (or gets out of the game for incapacitation or whatever) 6 months from now and later primaries are won by someone who doesn't get a full maga movement behind him ofc republican chances are far worse in 2028

That judges don't judge based on the criteria that they are pretending to use.

Oh hey, another AI slop posting spree in the middle of the night from the sitting president of the United States. Tee hee! What a funny old man dear leader is.

Because it's an insanely dumb idea and pretty much the opposite of any real ideas about Freedom 😀

Imagine having the audacity to start yet another one of your pile of **** posts with this line and having the audacity to think you have the right to demand to be taken seriously

well you can disagree. What makes you think people on the right believe in the tooth fairy the same as leftists? people on the right know the gvmnt can't fix everything and they are content with any minimal attempt to reduce the disaster leftists do every time they govern, that's the ethos.

Not a salvific idea of government as the solution for everything, rather an attempt to reduce the pain caused by leftists being in government.

In an overwhelming majority of cases when the 'government' sends someone to dig into your life to extract money/time etc it will be delivered by a conservative in a union. So, things don't always match up with what the ad says on the box Luci.

Not sure what you mean here. Biden let several millions illegals in, temporarily legalizing them with TPS and parole. Even stopping that was far more than enough for a huge quantity of voters, literally if not a single other thing can be improved in 4 years it's still so exceptionally better for them to have the border closed vs biden infinity immigration they already won enough to justify their votes.

That's being pragmatic.

Leftists instead vote for a democratic president who attempts to cancel their student loans (and manages for some cases), covers them with absurd unjustified welfare for longer than deserved (covid relief act 2) , tries succesfully to censor their political opponents for years on social media, let's in infinity immigrant like they love to AND THEN ARE ANGRY AT HIM ANYWAY lol.

I mean Biden delivered more than people would have thought possible, with a complicated situation in congress, for leftist values, and voters got angry at him a lot. That's leftists.

“And again, to clarify, ‘leftist’ means whatever I want it to mean at any given moment.”

I was talking about law enforcement etc which is how tons of reg people end up interfacing with the govt outside of some other pretty basic stuff.

Whining about immigrants constantly is kinda silly--when we all know who mostly actually hires/really wants them. Same reason trump is putting on a show instead of actually delivering big numbers 😀

? here it's just people who vote for the democratic candidate vs people who vote for the republican candidate.

The latter are far more pragmatic, far more reasonable, and far easier to assuage, just give them something better than the other party and they will vote for you. They are not idealists.

JFC super pro family evangelics voted for a "plausible rapist" who *paid hush money to a porn star* and had several marriages and who knows how many episodes of cheating. That's pragmatism. Having federal society judges instead of leftist judges is more than enough to vote for that candidate for them so they do.

Don’t bother, man. I’ve decided I’m no longer engaging with fake Italians, or fake Americans, or people terrified of cities.

I don’t agree with Luciom’s characterization but I think the point is that the right’s biggest fight every cycle isn’t “how do we get our own voters to vote for us” but rather “how can we target the people that are on the fence about voting for us”.

Meanwhile every election it seems like the Democrats’ biggest fight is against their own base trying to get them to go further left on most issues.

This could be interpreted as a positive thing if you were so inclined to think that “lesser of two evil” (or closest preference voting as I prefer to call it) is a bad thing. Also it seems like there are some people that the right has to convince every year, namely libertarians who in the past really would vote third party idealistically. But then again they also used to be pro-open borders so I’m not even sure if real libertarians exist anymore outside of the Cato institute and online debates.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncommit...

Here’s an example, though there are others we could plausibly point to.

You so willingly choose to ignore what right wing idealism is in your whole ‘death to leftist’ messaging that there is no reason at all why anyone should debate you in good faith. As always it remains the height of comedy and absurdity that you’re humored by anyone

You are an unrepentant piece of human garbage who is a net negative to humanity but are so deeply unimportant that keeping your existence on Internet forums is probably the best way to make sure you don’t shoot up a masjid or something

Seems pretty right on. The right is trying to convince their voters they're going to deliver on what amounts to being left wing ideals(putting reg. working people ahead of the top of the food chain) when the entire philosophy is based on putting other interests first. The problem kinda comes in that the left here is essentially doing a slightly different version of the same thing.

And ya the libertarian party is basically a complete waste of time at this point. They helped get the legalization thing going/into the conversation to some degree(minus the heavy lifting of actually getting it done) and that's pretty much it really.

I am an italian that lives in a medieval city center (and rococo got my photo ID)

republicans who truly believed abortion was "the worst possible sin", voted for decades for people who actually had paid for abortions for their mistresses, because the plan was clear. Installing enough rightwing judges gave them a chance, no matter how remote and far way in time, to reverse what they saw as the worst legal horror in american history.

In that sense you might consider them idealist (for the goal they were pursuing) and i don't want to intend i deny that. But being pragmatic, every single election cycle they still voted the option that added whatever minuscule % of possibility to their dream of reversing roe v wade, and didn't complain their representatives were **** for other stuff.

They had a plan and stuck with it. That's pragmatism.

Now the moving force on the right is to fix the abhorrent disaster of immigration as conducted in the last 20 years in the USA (or so that's what they see). So it *doesn't matter* what else their candidate says or does. As long as he will credibly be better for immigration than the democratic candidate they will vote for him.

Compare that to leftists not voting harris because of Gaza lol

The border is actually closed. And trump made exceptional efforts to mass deport. Courts are blocking him everywhere, and he somewhat prevailed in some cases, others are still being litigated, but what he is doing is far far more than just a show.

He might still fail both because the people working for him aren't all geniuses , and because the system is built to allow democrats to take in infinity immigrants without allowing anyone else to mass deport them, but he is doing the maximum you can think of under the circumstances.

He is removing TPS/parole from almost all groups that undeservingly got it from Biden (most of those cases afaik are still being litigated). He is hiring a ton of ICE personnel and conducting raids everywhere (many of those tactis are being litigated as potentially illegal as you know).

He is going after illegals with an unprecedented ferocity and brutality ruining as many illegal lives as he can manage to in an explicit effort to push as many illegals as possible to self deport (and we won't know exact self-deportation numbers for a while).

It's quite absurd to claim he isn't doing anything but a show when center-left media is covering, day by day, entire areas of the country where supposedly economic activity is halting because illegals went away or are too afraid to go out of home. companies are clamoring about problems with hiring in specific sectors known to be usually covered a lot by illegals.

And i don't think illegals will be able to hide at home for 40 + months or will like that as a plan, just hoping for a democrat in 2028. So IF the efforts are sustained a lot of them will self deport

rightwing libertarians are about economic freedoms above everything else combined. Trump delivered on crypto and Ross. And they aren't necessarily pro open border when welfare exists (they would all be at no welfare and no path to citizenship ofc).

And democrats hired IRS agents while Trump is gutting the IRS. There is hardly anything more spectacularly pro libertarians than that. The alignment is clear every these days.

Calm down, scumbag

You're free to believe whatever you want man. If there are "~30million" illegal immigrants here whatever amount have left hasn't been noticeable on the ground--traffic's still off the hook 😀

The republicans/conservatives are never really going to willingly put a giant dent in a desirable segment of their workforce. It's just not going to really happen.

Not sure man, remember trump has his own idiosyncratic preferences. For example he hates wind turbines so much (never understood why) that he managed to cut a lot of projects in red states anyway.

Trump isn't the cynical republican minmaxing his own benefits and his constituents/donors benefits. He tariffed inputs for sectors that are massively republican managed (like house building).

Rightist governments are so successful , I wonder why they aren’t all over the place and last for decades …