President Donald Trump

If I'm so full of it why do you have to lie about my positions? I've never said anything about directed energy weapons. And I never said "the U.S." did 9/11. You can't debate a crazy conspiracy theorist without straw manning like you're on an arts and crafts retreat.

But even if I did say the U.S. did 9/11, like the government did it Northwoods style, think about what you just said. You said there is some contradiction between being able to demolish a building without visibly, conventional rigging and not being able to defeat a modern technologically advanced state with a formidable military on their own turf. Would it not be a LOT easier to demolish a building without being detected than to defeat Iran in war? I can give you guys enough credit that if you actually thought about this for 30 seconds you could see the d2 self own.

I heard someone say recently "no one wants to work anymore" and I feel that. I feel it here. You are just phoning it in you're not even trying.

My guy, I put exactly as much effort into my posts to you as you do to responding to requests to provide evidence for your, I'll put this charitably, numerous and fanciful claims.

Anyway, if I thought about things too much, I might have an epiphany and realise you're right about everything, and then my boss would fire me. You going to put food on the table for the little d2s then, Deuces?

polymarket got rid of the nuclear markets

just to re: all the polymarket chatter,

One thing housenuts hasn’t said is that polymarket was restricted in the USA until Don Trump Jr joined the advisory board in 2025. His venture capital firm also made a sizable investment in the company.

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I can't be bothered to make cheap insults about Trump, the man is enough of an insult on his own.

However, your point is true.

Complaining about lack of decorum in addressing Trump is absurd, He himself and the entire administration routinely engages in childish insults, tantrums, calls to violence against private citizens, make up making grievous lies and accusations towards private citizens and he and this administration does so on their own public social media, on official channels, through appointed officials and on government websites. At this point this has happened thousands of times. To add insult to injury they are notoriously thin-skinned when they catch flak in return.

The man obviously hates the majority of people he is elected to serve, and his hatred and disdain has become official policy. There is a statement that is often repeated, that Trump expects loyalty. No, the truth is far worse than that. Trump and this administration expects obedience and servility.

I think that tactical use by the U.S. is very, very unlikely because the U.S. has massive traditional bombs that it can drop that are effective enough and that generate one one-millionth of the international reaction that dropping a nuclear weapon would generate.

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It still is restricted in the land of the free.

Polymarket Global is, but not the newer Polymarket US (which was authorized days after Don Jr became an advisor).

It's not at all clear that they were able to reach all iran's nuclear resources with those bombs.

In any case the main point is that only the usa doesn't have to worry about how the usa will respond.

There has always been a theory that the world is safer with more than one superpower. Good chance we will fade use of nukes till then

Its also worth noting that Housenuts made 10-15 posts about Hunter Biden because he was pretending to care about corruption at that point, which we can see now doesn't really matter to him

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I can get that to stop a country from getting a nuke as with Iran or if it happened with NK. But not for countries that already have them like Russia or China.

Obviously we don't know what everyone has or could develop but as far as tactical nukes, it's really just Russia's massive stockpile our little pile and the few Pakistan has. The latter being my pick for first to use. But thats mostly based on the conventional force imbalance. So if they were getting over run, maybe, but yes if their options were limited to unconditional surrender.

What is this "international reaction" of which you speak? We just carried out a genocide and "the West" gave full throated approval. Marco Rubio just stood up in front of the Munich Security Conference and gave the most racist speech since Hitler in the beer halls and Europe applauded.

We could drop a nuclear bomb on any non-white people and no one besides nobodies on social media is going to offer an ounce of sympathy for the victims, let alone call for accountability from the monsters who did it.

You wouldn't even post a complaint about it in this forum because you'd be so terrified. Most of those in the West who aren't suffering aren't going to complain about any amount of the suffering of others at the hands of regimes they support.

Nothing Trump is doing or will do is anything that anyone you, of your own free will, have voted into office would also do or approve of it's being done.

The reason they don't want to nuke Iran is because of the economic consequences. Does Israel care about those consequences is the question to contemplate.

Let me get this straight. You think that my posting history in this forum suggests that I am unwilling to criticize the U.S. government. Is that the claim?

Seems Trump is facing a right wing backlash
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/maga...

So, there you go.

Did you not make a post saying you were thinking of not posting anymore because of concerns you could be held accountable by the fascists legal interpretations? Am I imagining that happened?

But let's not focus on you. You vote for people who you know approve of this war and the genocide in Gaza so that's you. I'm trying to figure out what you think the meaningful international opposition would be to a nuclear attack given what we've seen recently, the total embracing of Trump by the West as he gets as fascist and violent as he wants to get.

Oh dear, sounds like Rococo is another sad victim on the list of those who are afraid their boss will fire them if they just acknowledged that Deuces is right about everything. It's OK Roc, you have new compadres like me and Trolly and Neil DeGrasse Tyson to teach you to parrot the CIA approved lines here.

People have attempted to dox and harass users of this forum before, Rocco's concerns are perhaps inflated but only mildly so.

Yes. I expressed that concern. I don't think it is zero risk, at least not for me on this site because of how long I have been on this site and because I have not been careful about hiding my profession, where I live, and other things that could be used to make an educated guess about who I am (especially with the proliferation of AI). But then I returned and continued to be enormously critical of the government for things that were less extreme than deploying a nuclear weapon. In other words, I said "**** it," at least for now.

And if I left this site tomorrow because of confidentiality concerns, it wouldn't mark the end of my criticism of this administration. It would mark the end of my criticism of this administration on 2+2.

For whatever it is worth, I think Trump has been hesitant to articulate a long term goal in part because there is no clearly defined long term goal, but also in part because he sees little value in publicly articulating a long term goal. If you spell out a long term goal, then you can be measured by whether you achieved that goal. From Trump's perspective, it's much better to end up wherever you end up and then lie after the fact and pretend like that was your destination all along.

thanks for keeping count

MAGA Canadians truly are a different breed.

All I know is if someone knocks on my door asking about my criticism of the government, that will be the last door they knock on.