US Immigration Crisis
I didn’t see an immigration thread so I figured I would add one. This problem seems to be worsening everyday of the current admin. Hopefully some of our new elected officials can help with this. Mr. Luttrell is a great start
https://www.wunc.org/2025-01-16/trumps-p...
"Nebraska is one of the top meat producers in the U.S. It also has one of the worst labor shortages in the country. For every 100 jobs, there are only 39 workers."
I know it won't be themselves, so who are the anti-immigrant jerks going to blame when the cost of food goes up and/or the shelves are empty?
SOCIALIZED MEAT PRODUCTION
https://www.wunc.org/2025-01-16/trumps-p...
"Nebraska is one of the top meat producers in the U.S. It also has one of the worst labor shortages in the country. For every 100 jobs, there are only 39 workers."
I know it won't be themselves, so who are the anti-immigrant jerks going to blame when the cost of food goes up and/or the shelves are empty?
yes, the solution is to become the next dubai, the level of confirmation bias in this post is astounding
Dubai, famous for its lax immigration laws.
I'm sure the reason you never see illegal immigrants homeless and on the streets is because they are sleeping on the job sites. Aren't most Dubai migrant workers actual slaves?
Rick,
I don't get what you mean by confirmation bias there. There are open jobs and there are people who want to come here to do them. I think they should just be allowed to come and take those jobs and to come and go as they wish, but then I love freedom.
Is it a wild theory that a labor shortage increases prices and decreases supply?
I'm sure the reason you never see illegal immigrants homeless and on the streets is because they are sleeping on the job sites. Aren't most Dubai migrant workers actual slaves?
Could be argued, but without doing semantics, most of the workers in the Gulf States get their passports confiscated and aren't allowed to leave the country or their jobs or often to freely move about the country. It's definitely not freedom.
microbet - you're literally advocating for a tiered society like the gulf states - how are you not able to comprehend that we could:
A) raise the minimum wage and incentivize locals to work in the meat packaging plants and be like norway where a big mac costs $9 but everyone can afford one because there's a floor for earning
B) import quasi slave labor to live in squalor in a tiered society so our big macs will cost $4.39
just incredible that B is the position you support here, you've abandoned your core principles because of identity politics
and the very best thing you can do to combat the gross inequality we have is to raise income floors instead of keeping them artificially low by just importing people so unfortunate as to be willing to accept that life
shame on you
Shame on me, lol.
No, I love freedom and think people who want to should be able to move here and be full citizens, not quasi slaves, no one holding their passports. They can decide whether to move here and who to work for, or start their own enterprises, and whether to move back at any time. But then, I love freedom.
Freedom, not importing anyone.
"identity politics"
You are clueless.
A) raise the minimum wage and incentivize locals to work in the meat packaging plants and be like norway where a big mac costs $9 but everyone can afford one because there's a floor for earning
lol, you'd be the first to scream and yell if the US ever got serious about implementing a minimum wage hike.
mb where did i say not to allow immigration?
you're the one who literally said we need them to work in conditions no american would ever work in so we can have cheap groceries
again man, your love of identity politics has totally disrupted your core values
microbet - you're literally advocating for a tiered society like the gulf states - how are you not able to comprehend that we could:
A) raise the minimum wage and incentivize locals to work in the meat packaging plants and be like norway where a big mac costs $9 but everyone can afford one because there's a floor for earning
B) import quasi slave labor to live in squalor in a tiered society so our big macs will cost $4.39
just incredible that B is the position you support here, you've abandoned you
I'm sure illegals are getting exploited. Maybe more than normal workers? I'm assuming wage theft is generally a bigger per capita issue for citizens but could be wrong.
The reason people are willing to "accept that life" is because its better than the life they are unfortunately born into.
We can continue expanding infrastructure and GDP growth will allow for more participants in the system. There is currently minimal downside to this system other than fear mongering
lol, i have that idiot on ignore so wouldn't have seen that horrendous take if you didn't quote it
him being so incredibly stupid to actually believe that i'm anti increasing minimum wage when i have dozens of posts here over the years advocating for doing so is exactly why he's on ignore, he's either a bad faithed troll or a complete moron, probably both though
believe it or not i'm actually a progressive bb, i know that's difficult for people to wrap their heads around in this echo chamber of nonsense because i don't tow the line on so much of the nonsense you guys get caught up in, but we're 99% the same in terms of core policy if you remove all the virtue signaling fluff, but this is exactly why we've had a conservative win the popular vote, because the left has lost their minds and dropped their core values for identity politics and it's left a lot of their allies such as me on the sidelines
i didn't vote for trump, never have and never will, but i also was never going to vote for kamala either, even if i lived in a swing state, i also was able to see the writing on the wall and made 5 figures on election betting, and no that wasn't on a hunch or a whim or latent desires, it was strictly good value on someone who was underpriced, i also got really lucky that kamala's price steamed really hard while i was on a drunken college reunion weekend which made hedging out on kamala -ev which increased my win rate substantially as it meant going into the election naked on trump rather than hedged to guarantee a smaller profit either way as i originally planned, just that i missed the boat on the cheap kamala prices
mb where did i say not to allow immigration?
you're the one who literally said we need them to work in conditions no american would ever work in so we can have cheap groceries
again man, your love of identity politics has totally disrupted your core values
When you say "literally" there you are implying you're quoting something and not getting everything wrong. I didn't say anything about any Americans "needing" anything, just drawing the obvious conclusion that restricting immigration decreases labor and drives up costs. Aside from that I'm unironically making the libertarian point, true libertarian, that freedom is good. People should immigrate if they want. If they think conditions are better here than in Venezuela or wherever, they should be free to choose. I would neither import them nor block them. Freedom. Hardly identity politics.
this isn't what happened at all, you directly tied said we need immigrants to keep the cost of food low
at least own it instead of trying to goal post shift this nonsense below into "i was actually talking about freedom"
https://www.wunc.org/2025-01-16/trumps-p...
"Nebraska is one of the top meat producers in the U.S. It also has one of the worst labor shortages in the country. For every 100 jobs, there are only 39 workers."
I know it won't be themselves, so who are the anti-immigrant jerks going to blame when the cost of food goes up and/or the shelves are empty?
Do you not know what the words literally or directly mean?
I am making positive statements about Labor and costs, not normative statements.
Increasing labor will lower cost. That's a fact. That's what I said. Whether people should come or not? That should be up to them. Are conservatives going to look to blame someone when food prices go up because of their heinous deportations? Of course! Are they going to look in the mirror? Of course not!
And the fact that you keep saying identity politics just highlights how you aren't really paying attention to what I'm saying and just put me in some kind of political box because I don't hate immigrants.
