Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Oh no not the communist China and Russia.
What year is it, 1971?
You claim a higher moral and standard ground, then turn around and call entire countries tribal or zero-sum or "loserville"? Not to mention mocking a child prisoner.
You make me laugh a daily basis, and I honestly appreciate that. <3
I dont have the slightest clue what the highlighted is in reference to.
And I get that holding 3rd world leaders to lower standards of behavior is viewed as a virtue in the liberal world, and maybe it is. But it certainly isn't doing them anyone any favors, especially when we encourage and permit horrible behavior in their leadership with predictable poor outcomes.
Oh no not the communist China and Russia.
What year is it, 1971?
You claim a higher moral and standard ground, then turn around and call entire countries tribal or zero-sum or "loserville"? Not to mention mocking a child prisoner.
You make me laugh a daily basis, and I honestly appreciate that. <3
I don't see the "mocking a child prisoner" part.
This child is clearly a soldier, a terrorist, a future Hamas operative.
Based solely on the colour of his skin, or the fact that his name isnt Yakob or Yuval
I didn't make that post. I wasn't even involved in whatever discussion that post is part of.
Edit: I just saw the post and FWIW the BBC article linked says the prisoner was 18, not 14.
I apologize I realized after the fact it wasn't you that said that.
You link doesn't even say Israel carpet bombed Gaza. That is an interview Biden gave recently about a conversation that happened over 1 year ago before Israel had done much of anything in response to 10/7.
I wouldn't be surprised if Biden completely misremembered whatever conversation he had, or just made it all up. But even giving him a giant benefit of the doubt he remembered the conversation correctly, it still doesn't state that Israel carpet bombed Gaza, just that Netanyahu challenged hi
weird that Bibi challenged him on it and then we get pictures like Ive linked many times. they dropped like 8 Hiroshimas worth of bombs on an area twice as big as Brooklyn.
we all watched it happen. some said it was good. but lol at denying that the place got repeatedly carpet bombed.
This was after just the first seven weeks.
Israel’s Gaza attack ‘one of history’s heaviest conventional bombing campaigns’
Analysts say destruction of northern Gaza in less than seven weeks has approached that caused by years-long carpet-bombing of German cities during second World War.
Gaza: one of the most intense bombardments in history?
By 6 December, analysis published in the Financial Times (FT) [11] stated that “Gaza will also go down as a place name denoting one of history’s heaviest conventional bombing campaigns.” It cited a study by US-based academics using satellite radar data which suggested that over 60% of buildings in northern Gaza had been severely damaged. By 29 January, the devastation across the whole of Gaza was approaching this level. [12] This is comparable to the Allied ‘carpet-bombing’ of the German cities of Dresden, Cologne and Hamburg during World War II in 1943 to 1945.
-Forcibly remove women, children, olds etc from their homes after killing much of their family
-Smuggle them back into Gaza
-Hide them among civilian guardians and in tunnels for 15 months (we'll spare speculation on what happened to some of them)
-Finally return them back with...a certificate and photos of their ordeal as a gift
lol. We will disagree on the generosity
well they could have gone home the next day but Israel wanted to do some genocide and couldnt even hold off on bombing for a few hours.
regardless, they faired a lot better than the innocent people that Israel tortured up to the last moments.
well they could have gone home the next day but Israel wanted to do some genocide and couldnt even hold off on bombing for a few hours.
regardless, they faired a lot better than the innocent people that Israel tortured up to the last moments.
Yeah but they’ve been martyred so now they’re in heaven with 69 virgins and endless grapes so win-win, right?
no they were released yesterday and reported being beaten right up until the moment the Red Cross came. most were women and children without any charges.
anyway, your bigotry is showing.
yes its pretty funny considering the Israelis are sending their hostages back with broken bones, emaciated bodies, skin diseases and lifelong injuries.
LOL, did you bother to translate this post?
Vic you are the worst Palestinian supporter, as you are so out there and so wrong, it is almost like you are doing reverse propaganda for Israel
from the article I linked
Guy lerer was lying and was shown to be a liar.
Guy Lerer is not a liar. Far from it. He is actually a very good reporter. Sometimes he is incorrect (seldom).
Another source.: https://www.mako.co.il/nexter-news/Artic...
He was 18, not 14, and with no broken limbs.
The claims about him were refuted by the prison authorities, who published videos of him using all his limbs freely on the day of his release.
He also claimed he was starved, which is also a blatant lie.
Guy Lerer is not a liar. Far from it. He is actually a very good reporter. Sometimes he is incorrect (seldom).
Another source.: https://www.mako.co.il/nexter-news/Artic...
He was 18, not 14, and with no broken limbs.
The claims about him were refuted by the prison authorities, who published videos of him using all his limbs freely on the day of his release.
He also claimed he was starved, which is also a blatant lie.
But Victor knows truth so you wrong.
What about admitting you were wrong again. just a few days ago you claimed Israel didn't really except the first stage agreement and we were pulling a ruse.
care to admit your mistake?
Sounds like a fully functioning clock, then.
Let's make some things clear – up to 1999, the Shabac was allowed to torture prisoners up to a certain extent (not breaking limbs but sleep deprivation, sitting in an uncomfortable posture called shabah, and shaking).
In 1999 the Israeli supreme court ruled (8 to 1 verdict) that those practices are not legal. I would like to quate from that verdict:
" We opened our judgment by describing the difficult security reality in which Israel finds itself. Back to this reality we will conclude our verdict. We are aware that this ruling of ours does not make it easier to deal with this reality. This is the fate of a democracy, not all means are kosher in its eyes, and not all methods used by its enemies are open to it. more than once democracy fights with one of its hands tied behind its back.
Despite this, democracy has the upper hand. Maintaining the rule of law and recognizing individual freedoms are an important element in the concept of security. At the end of the day, they are strengthen her spirit and strength and enable her to overcome hardship"
You think a clock never shows the right time?
I think that explains everything. It almost sums up your entire world view.
Anyway, I was just released from further reserve recruit, due to age. not official yet but was told I would get my papers soon.
Vic you are the worst Palestinian supporter, as you are so out there and so wrong, it is almost like you are doing reverse propaganda for Israel
In a sick way I admire his commitment to lying all the time. It takes someone who truly believes in his “cause” to spend this much time sharing tweets from insane, Jew-hating liars.
In a sick way I admire his commitment to lying all the time. It takes someone who truly believes in his "cause" to spend this much time sharing tweets from insane, Jew-hating liars.
He doesn’t believe in his cause. If he did he’d be actually contributing to it instead of wasting away on a poker message board.
Stop with the ****-talking. You all should not need this same reminder on a daily basis.
Come on Victor, why trust two independent British doctors when you can trust the Israelis?
When have they ever lied?!
