Israel/Palestine thread

Back at you. I tried to write up something, but didn't get it the way I wanted. Something to the effect of when I don't agree with you, I still think you are coming from a good place - hurt and angry about such horrible stuff.

why would I think thats a win? tbh I dont much care who the mod is and I havent really had any complaints until this last ban on gotwoot.

the fact that you considered to ban me at BGP's behest but realized that it "not right" is pretty telling. I appreciate that you did what was right but like, that doesnt mean I owe you anything.

I understand that many people want me banned but I am very careful not to make personal attacks. if I posted like gorg or freakdaddy or cordi or d2 or many others then I realize that I would be gone instantly.

I kind of like that people want me gone bc I post anti-Imperialist arguments.

I never considered banning you. And I took it all the way to the owners, Victor. You don’t know how far this truly went. I’ve had your back more than anyone. It’s depressing as **** that you can’t recognize that.

Being a moderator allowed me that privilege.

I did quit for a while because of the guilt tripping. Like, what's the worst thing I've said about you? I've repeatedly attached to any criticism of moderation that I think you're a good poster/person. Do you expect to wield this power over the posters and have your actions as a mod not be criticized at all?

Victor does recognize that and he's mentioned it to me.

It’s like neither of you have ever heard in your life of subversive resistance.

I dont want you gone. I actually said in private that you were one of the best mods I have ever encountered. and trust and believe that I feuded with every mod since I joined.

I dont think that we are each other's own fwiw. I think we are far different ideologically. thats not meant to be an insult.

ok I misinterpreted your post. I appreciate that you went to bat for me so that I could continue posting here. I enjoy posting here as I have said many times.

I dont think that I am deserving of bans and I think I am much more respectful than most other regs. people just dont like my perspectives.

You are the one that brought it up. But you have made your feeling for Israelis very clear; that as a society they are sadistic and evil and beyond all redemption, and the Palestinians are a noble, moral people fighting a noble, moral war; and have a moral obligation to fight until Israel is destroyed, by any means necessary.

And I guess if Micro sees you as a buddy despite this, that says enough.

This is the worst self-take I have ever...

Happy/sad weekend in Israel.

Yarden Bibas (the father of the ginger family that was kidnapped and murdered) and Ofer Kalderon were held in cages and beaten.

They underwent physical and mental abuse for months.

Half the world this makes happy and emboldens them.

And a lot of western liberals, although not overtly supportive of torture and murder of Jews, aren't going to judge or condone either the people who are abusing and murdering Jews, or those that overtly support such behavior.

This is just the world we live in now. It is what it is.

As Israeli hostages are starting to give account of their ordeal, they are stating what anyone with half a brain already knows. That UNRWA directly participated in holding Israeli's hostage over the last year+.

Other than the nations that just own their blatant antisemitism, such as Ireland and Norway (interesting coincidence that these were also 2 nations that declared themselves neutral in WWII, even after finding out about the Holocaust) it will be interesting to see how western democracies navigate their relationship with UNRWA moving forward, now that there is no plausible deniability about the nature of the organization.

Two or three of the people in this forum are looking really bad right now. I'm hoping to hear an apology to Israel. I have a feeling they will just move on to another thread. Supporting the side that takes toddlers and babies as hostage is disturbing to say the least.

I don't support the guy in the video at all. That meme was pretty bad though. Most Israelis don't think like this jerk. You have to wonder what is really going on inside somebody who would post something like that.

have you guys seen the conditions of the hostages that Israel took?

highly doubtful. hell most American voters feel this way. both of the last two presidents want to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza and into Egypt or Jordan and out of "Judea and Samaria". thats the goal of the West.

Don't worry, Egypt just parked an entire tank division right on the border to make sure not a single Palestinian crosses.

Hard to blame them. The last thing any sane nation wants is all the corrupt far left NGOs and UNRWA to come in with Palestinian refugees and work to support Palestinian radical terrorism and undermine the host nations.

Also, a bunch of Egyptians went to the Rafah border to protest any Palestinians being let through; and I guess they decided as long as they were there they might as well loot some aid trucks. With friends like these, who needs enemies.

Israel didn't take hostages.

It's Jewish land. I don't understand why they would want to be there. The Jews would have lived next to them but not now. Unfortunately, nobody wants them because they have caused trouble everywhere they have gone. The future is gonna be bleak for these people unless they change their ways.

Sounds like you are kicking out the Palestinians from your area .. I wonder if that's how it felt like to people kicked out of multiple countries .

Simple. Palestinians aren’t people.

Are Israeli's people?

To the people who don't regard Palestinians as people, of course. And to every reasonable person too.