Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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the best propaganda is the simple truth. and this whole conflict is as simple as it gets. one side deliberately attacks hospitals. the other side refuses to take out medivacs out of principle.
one side tortures prisoners and brags about it. the other side takes care of the prisoner's dogs despite a near famine.
seems what is going on now would be worse than Hamas in charge. its kind of weird to say Hamas is weakened when they are still killing invaders all across the strip and their approval levels have never been higher. they are releasing videos daily of repurposing bombs and "returning to sender". meanwhile Israelis are returning home with PTSD over their friends being killed an
LOL. Yeah right. Under Hamas great leadership and military prowess, clearly the Gaza strip has had a great 20 years, with high prospects for the next 20.
#Winning
? Iranians get involved? why do you think this when they keep telegraphing "please help us de-escalate?"
The reason they keep trying to deescalate is because they realize they will be drawn into this at some point. We've already seen this play out in a massive attack from Iran in order to save face.
Hamas has allegedly re-opened hostage talks. Who knows if it is real or not at this point. I will say the biggest disaster for the people living in Gaza would be Israel making a deal leaving Hamas in charge of the ruins. Absolutely no hope moving forward with those psychotic, homicidal clowns in charge; especially in such a weakened state. That being said I dont know if Is
It's pretty much guaranteed that this happens. It's also not as bad as you are making it out to be, and probably the most likely way to get a long lasting peace. Aside from completely getting rid of Hamas not being realistic, if Hamas is sidelined then they play the role of attacking whoever is trying to make things better in Gaza. There is no realistic way to combat that.
LOL. Yeah right. Under Hamas great leadership and military prowess, clearly the Gaza strip has had a great 20 years, with high prospects for the next 20. #Winning
I am not sure what that picture is supposed to mean. I was told in other threads that the USA does not attack civilian infrastructure so I guess thats a just a AI art or something I dunno.
Mashed up.
Recently, the Israelis did apparently restore power to an area of Gaza that hadn't suffered total domicide.
Define great propaganda. Some bullshit language and imagery on struggle and resistance?
Debauchery of the human mind.
Spoiler
This is the worst possible decision Israel could make imo. Israel will get overwhelmed with missiles, they won't be able to do anything decisive, other Iranian will likely gey involved, and then Israel will be doing this all again in a few years.
If they attack (they shouldnt) then they need to mobilize and launch a serious campaign.
The only way they don't attack is if Hezbollah refuses to move back a distance to where they are no longer a threat. The only reason Israel didn't wipe them out in 2006 is because they got fooled into thinking Hezbollah would abide by the peace agreement and move away from the border. Israel still has 80,000 displaced citizens from the north. This can't continue.
Israel needs to pull out of Rafah anyways, they don't have anywhere close to enough manpower to do both at the same time. At that point we will see if Hezbollah was lying about being willing to stop attacking if Israel pulls out of Rafah.
I doubt the strikes continue, but if they do then Israel needs to mobilize. Launching a big airstrike is going to be the worst of all outcomes: it won't hurt Hezbollah that much, international outrage, and Israel will suffer greatly from reprisals.
Is it just me or does everyone always hate your neighbors?
Even neighbors that you begin to like end up borrowing something and then they forget to return that. Then you need to have a very awkward conversation with them and you find out that they don’t respect you after all.
Kind of puts our history of neighboring countries in conflict into perspective.
yes for the gazans, but no for the israeli civilians that would be raped and murdered by hamas under such circumstances.. their promise that oct 7 was a rehearsal for the main event has not been forgotten and never will be
Can a mod put a poll in the OP?
"Do you like your neighbors?" with the options:
Yes, I do
No, don't care for them
No, I ****ing hate them
Bastardo
hamas are apparently facing widespread and open dissent among gazans. many of whom seem to be unconvinced that the satisfaction of knowing that a few jews were murdered and raped was worth it
article on the bbc about it today
I guess they are out of options because it seems like this resistance is just getting them more and more pounded. It doesn't seem like they are getting any closer to peace.
The Resistance is stronger than it has ever been. Israel and USA are busy killing civilians while the fighters have shown no signs of degradation and have been inflicting losses all across Gaza.
hamas are apparently facing widespread and open dissent among gazans. many of whom seem to be unconvinced that the satisfaction of knowing that a few jews were murdered and raped was worth it
article on the bbc about it today
This has been the case for awhile. There were protests earlier in the year although they obviously didn't make many news outlets. The war branch is not popular, which is why giving the political branch legitimately is the best way to fight hamas.
this was my favorite part of the article
as if Hamas is standing in the way. just the typical lying Western press running cover for (plausible) genocide and war of extermination and blaming the victims most of which are children.
The Resistance is stronger than it has ever been. Israel and USA are busy killing civilians while the fighters have shown no signs of degradation and have been inflicting losses all across Gaza.
this is a point of view, but it does not accord with the facts. it sounds more like what you would like to be happening, rather than what is in fact happening
Is it just me or does everyone always hate your neighbors?
Even neighbors that you begin to like end up borrowing something and then they forget to return that. Then you need to have a very awkward conversation with them and you find out that they don’t respect you after all.
Kind of puts our history of neighboring countries in conflict into perspective.
Can’t stand one of mine
"Once land is designated as state land, Israel no longer recognizes it as privately owned by Palestinians."
