Moderation Questions
Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by jalfrezi m

If you wanted to perma Luciom you’ve had plenty of opportunity, so I guess we agree. It’s about the long term. Giving him enough rope by letting him show the forum who he really is, is far better than a series of temp bans that only teach him to colour between the lines better. As I said, it’s pretty clear that people who were unaware of his real beliefs are now more vocal in t

I don't death wish post anything but who cares about reality


by chezlaw m

whatever you want to call it.

Self-censored views help with cognitive progress. Getting people to identify with their views at their worst is staggeringly stupid politics.

The sheer gall of some people. You ran a forum that was an unmitigated disaster and resulted in fascists (spurred on by your attempts at appeasement) running amok in multiple threads celebrating the death of an antifa protestor at the hands of neo-Nazis, and you think your methods are worthy of consideration.

And the weekend that happened was the only weekend when you claimed to be unavailable. Ho hum.


by chezlaw m

whatever you want to call it.

Self-censored views help with cognitive progress. Getting people to identify with their views at their worst is staggeringly stupid politics.

some of the most censored views on this site over the last few relate to Ukraine, Israel, and Covid. shockingly the mainstream was wrong on all of them.


They were'nt new and they never go away. You dont want them banned apparantly. You dont even want their view moderated.

Crap as 'my' forum was, far worse is allowed now.

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by jalfrezi m

The sheer gall of some people. You ran a forum that was an unmitigated disaster and resulted in fascists spurred on by your encouragement running amok in multiple threads celebrating the death of an antifa protestor at the hands of neo-Nazis, and you think your methods are worthy of consideration.

Not sure what your issue is since you’re currently advocating for letting fascists run amok without moderation.


by chezlaw m

The need to call people names [...] may be satisfying but it is is piss poor politics.

Why are you such a tit?


by Victor m

some of the most censored views on this site over the last few relate to Ukraine, Israel, and Covid. shockingly the mainstream was wrong on all of them.

There's a big difference between censored and self-censored


by d2_e4 m

Why are you such a tit?

Tis an age old question.

At least unlike jalfrezi you're not pretending/or attempting politcs. You have high qualities as a name caller although 'tit' was not your best work imo


by Crossnerd m

Not sure what your issue is since you’re currently advocating for letting fascists run amok without moderation.

chezlaw's modding involved telling people off for being rude to fascists, but not for celebrating a real life death at the hands of neo-Nazis. Work that one out if you can.


by chezlaw m

Tis an age old question.

At least unlike jalfrezi you're not pretending/or attempting politcs. You have high qualities as a name caller although 'tit' was not your best work imo

It was a Partridge quote you uncultured donkey.

"Cancerous polyp on the anus of humanity" better?


by chezlaw m

There's a big difference between censored and self-censored

they literally banned showing evidence of the Ukrainian Army's far right ties and referring to it as a proxy war (even tho Boris Johnson did that exact thing). you still cant compare Israel, a country doing one of the worst genocides in history, with any other country that has done genocide.

ofc it causes self-censorship.


by jalfrezi m

chezlaw's modding involved telling people off for being rude to fascists, but not for celebrating a real life death at the hands of neo-Nazis. Work that one out if you can.

You’d have preferred he just done nothing and let the fascists run amok. I get it.


by Victor m

Israel, a country doing one of the worst genocides in history

Lolums. Cute.


by Crossnerd m

Not sure what your issue is since you’re currently advocating for letting fascists run amok without moderation.

There were definite problems and mistakes but jalfrezi has been exposed as someone who never wanted them banned.

The thread he objects to was a legitmate problem. It wasn't handled well.


by Rococo m

LOL. It's definitely not this. The owners don't give a **** what the mods of the Politics forum do. Ban half the regs. Ban no one. Delete posts. Don't delete posts. Ownership doesn't care. Or if they do care, they don't make their views known to the Politics mods.

Maybe so rhen. I thought max or someone made the remark to reduce the amount of perma bans and instead, delete the troublesome posts. If i recalled that correctly, i would have taken that as there may have been a revenue incentive in doing so because it still looks like some ad banners generate money from just views - but politcs may be different obv


by Crossnerd m

You’d have preferred he just done nothing and let the fascists run amok. I get it.

No, as I said I'd have preferred he didn't try to stop people from attacking their values - "name calling" as he calls it - by constant appeasement.


by formula72 m

Maybe so rhen. I thought max or someone made the remark to reduce the amount of perma bans and instead, delete the troublesome posts. If it recalled that correctly, i would have taken that as there may have been a revenue incentive in doing so because it still looks like some ad banners generate money from just views.

What banners bro? This site hasn't had advertising in years, since Max and the other dude bought it.


by chezlaw m

There were definite problems and mistakes but jalfrezi has been exposed as someone who never wanted them banned.

The thread he objects to was a legitmate problem. It wasn't handled well.

I wanted them to meet unanimous condemnation from every sane person there and leave through their own volition. Call it a hostile environment for fascists, if you like.


I think that’s old. The most recent directive iirc was to ban problem posters and posters who harass the mods.


by d2_e4 m

What banners bro? This site hasn't had advertising in years, since Max and the other dude bought it.

Well of thats the caee then maybe i got a virus or something


by jalfrezi m

No, as I said I'd have preferred he didn't try to stop people from attacking their values - "name calling" as he calls it - by constant appeasement.

Right, so let the fascists run amok and then let you name call them. This should be great for debate.


by Crossnerd m

You’d have preferred he just done nothing and let the fascists run amok. I get it.

It's also a straight lie to claim only people calling them names were moderated.

Mistakes happened but there was very strict moderation of content. Self-censorship was very much encouraged - I understand jalfrezi disagrees with self-censorship that but there's no need to misrepresent what was happening


by d2_e4 m

Lolums. Cute.

its also impossible to have an actual conversation on antisemitism and the how extremist Israeli ideology fits in with Jewishness. your post reminds me that one time you said something like "of course I support Israel, I am Jewish." the same sentiment, that by default Jews support Israel, an extremist country doing mass murder, apartheid, mass theft etc, would definitely risk a ban if expressed by an anti-Israel poster.

hell, even pointing out how often the David Star is used to deface buildings, monuments, land, and even actual people is not allowed.
its not really a big deal, but for chez, this is another example of self censorship.


by Crossnerd m

Right, so let the fascists run amok and then let you name call them. This should be great for debate.

shrug

The alternative is a UP style liberal echo-chamber that bans dissenters. Maybe that's what you want?


That’s just the majority of the issue. It’s not whether the moderation is reasonable and fair, it’s just that you (and several others) don’t want to be moderated whatsoever and seem to have found yourselves inexplicably in a moderated space somehow. Maybe you’re the ones who should leave?

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