Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
whatever you want to call it.
Self-censored views help with cognitive progress. Getting people to identify with their views at their worst is staggeringly stupid politics.
They were'nt new and they never go away. You dont want them banned apparantly. You dont even want their view moderated.
Crap as 'my' forum was, far worse is allowed now.
If you wanted to perma Luciom you’ve had plenty of opportunity, so I guess we agree.
It’s about the long term. Giving him enough rope by letting him show the forum who he really is, is far better than a series of temp bans that only teach him to colour between the lines better. As I said, it’s pretty clear that people who were unaware of his real beliefs are now more vocal in their condemnation. When it reaches a critical mass and most of his death wish posts are met with nothing but scorn and d
I don't death wish post anything but who cares about reality
whatever you want to call it.
Self-censored views help with cognitive progress. Getting people to identify with their views at their worst is staggeringly stupid politics.
The sheer gall of some people. You ran a forum that was an unmitigated disaster and resulted in fascists (spurred on by your attempts at appeasement) running amok in multiple threads celebrating the death of an antifa protestor at the hands of neo-Nazis, and you think your methods are worthy of consideration.
And the weekend that happened was the only weekend when you claimed to be unavailable. Ho hum.
whatever you want to call it.
Self-censored views help with cognitive progress. Getting people to identify with their views at their worst is staggeringly stupid politics.
some of the most censored views on this site over the last few relate to Ukraine, Israel, and Covid. shockingly the mainstream was wrong on all of them.
They were'nt new and they never go away. You dont want them banned apparantly. You dont even want their view moderated.
Crap as 'my' forum was, far worse is allowed now.
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The sheer gall of some people. You ran a forum that was an unmitigated disaster and resulted in fascists spurred on by your encouragement running amok in multiple threads celebrating the death of an antifa protestor at the hands of neo-Nazis, and you think your methods are worthy of consideration.
Not sure what your issue is since you’re currently advocating for letting fascists run amok without moderation.
they literally banned showing evidence of the Ukrainian Army's far right ties and referring to it as a proxy war (even tho Boris Johnson did that exact thing). you still cant compare Israel, a country doing one of the worst genocides in history, with any other country that has done genocide.
ofc it causes self-censorship.
Not sure what your issue is since you’re currently advocating for letting fascists run amok without moderation.
There were definite problems and mistakes but jalfrezi has been exposed as someone who never wanted them banned.
The thread he objects to was a legitmate problem. It wasn't handled well.
LOL. It's definitely not this. The owners don't give a **** what the mods of the Politics forum do. Ban half the regs. Ban no one. Delete posts. Don't delete posts. Ownership doesn't care. Or if they do care, they don't make their views known to the Politics mods.
Maybe so rhen. I thought max or someone made the remark to reduce the amount of perma bans and instead, delete the troublesome posts. If i recalled that correctly, i would have taken that as there may have been a revenue incentive in doing so because it still looks like some ad banners generate money from just views - but politcs may be different obv
Maybe so rhen. I thought max or someone made the remark to reduce the amount of perma bans and instead, delete the troublesome posts. If it recalled that correctly, i would have taken that as there may have been a revenue incentive in doing so because it still looks like some ad banners generate money from just views.
What banners bro? This site hasn't had advertising in years, since Max and the other dude bought it.
There were definite problems and mistakes but jalfrezi has been exposed as someone who never wanted them banned.
The thread he objects to was a legitmate problem. It wasn't handled well.
I wanted them to meet unanimous condemnation from every sane person there and leave through their own volition. Call it a hostile environment for fascists, if you like.
I think that’s old. The most recent directive iirc was to ban problem posters and posters who harass the mods.
It's also a straight lie to claim only people calling them names were moderated.
Mistakes happened but there was very strict moderation of content. Self-censorship was very much encouraged - I understand jalfrezi disagrees with self-censorship that but there's no need to misrepresent what was happening
its also impossible to have an actual conversation on antisemitism and the how extremist Israeli ideology fits in with Jewishness. your post reminds me that one time you said something like "of course I support Israel, I am Jewish." the same sentiment, that by default Jews support Israel, an extremist country doing mass murder, apartheid, mass theft etc, would definitely risk a ban if expressed by an anti-Israel poster.
hell, even pointing out how often the David Star is used to deface buildings, monuments, land, and even actual people is not allowed.
its not really a big deal, but for chez, this is another example of self censorship.
