Moderation Questions

You’re not representative of anything other than the abject failure of the American education system

And I’m not sure what male-centered pseudo-reality you claim to occupy and present as truth with a capital T, but bans were always simply for racism, bigotry, and verbal abuse. You’re lasting butthurt over catching a few yourself is not novel or interesting. I was always pretty nice to you iirc. Move along, friend.

I have my faults but this is a quite stunning paragraph of poor reads and it's not surprising your moderation was so poorly received by people across the political divide.

Also, it's "your", not "you're".

Racists want to be racist and Trump haters want to be verbally abusive. That’s my fault how exactly?

Again I’ll ask, why do you have so many feuds with people? It is everyone else, or is it you?

This may come as a shock to you but the owners don’t actually want a subforum where people are freely comparing Muslims to animals, Jews to Nazis, immigrants to parasites, etc. The owners don’t want a little eugenics outpost on their site where people can discuss which race is naturally fatter or lazier or of lesser value to humanity. And plenty of posters don’t want to post in a place where it’s allowed either, including me.

So which of the above are you SO upset about being moderated? Illuminate me.

If this place upsets you so much why are you here?

So that means we only have the Trumpers Trump thread, the 2nd term trump prediction thread, the trump tariff thread and the trump economy and poker thread left.

As you've hinted, there are a lot of racists around. Show me someone I've had what you call a feud with who isn't one.

The owners of a bar might not be overwhelmed with joy about some drinkers spouting racism either, but they don't employ someone to monitor the conversations and either clasp their hand over people's mouths or physically eject them. A lot of people are moderately to severely racist and pretending otherwise by deleting their posts or temp banning them doesn't do any good.

That's an NVG-worthy analogy. Patrons' conversations at a bar aren't transcribed on their walls and/or recorded and replayed whenever the jukebox is idle for posterity. If they were, I suspect your local proprietor might well employ your suggested methods to monitor them more closely and take remedial action when needed.

ME, you ****ing clown

We're all racists crossnerd

I think its mostly a strategy from the owner's belief on what is best to help the site grow or at least slow down its demise.

They don't want the outright bigotry in print, but they want those posters consistently posting, minus their horrendous takes (reasons for deletions) but also reasons for not perma banning.

I obviously don't know how the revenue exactly works, but I'd imagine that someone like Lucium is going to be good to some degree for overall impressions and clicks when he's posting 100 times a day and everyone else is consistently clicking, fueling an increase in the ads being viewed.

This "feud" is one-sided. I like your posts and look forward to reading them. The only problem I have is your style of moderation. You're the one who's been (and still is) abusive. Maybe you should cast a critical eye at yourself instead?

* waits to be told to **** off again *

You're probably right in which case someone should set up a server job to delete all non-stickied posts older than, say, a month, capping the amount of stored racism at any one time at about 3,000 posts (Luciom's monthly output).

Well, like I said, you’re gonna have to be specific about which forms of racism you’re upset that I moderated. Because I only ever banned for bigotry and verbal and abuse. If you want more bigotry, Jal, it’s on the menu now. Be happy 😀

LOL. It's definitely not this. The owners don't give a **** what the mods of the Politics forum do. Ban half the regs. Ban no one. Delete posts. Don't delete posts. Ownership doesn't care. Or if they do care, they don't make their views known to the Politics mods.

As far as I am aware, this site has no revenue streams, and if it does have some revenue streams I'm unaware of, I'm pretty sure they are completely unaffected by the presence of or traffic to this subforum.

I never want more bigotry but it's important that people are aware of the actual (rather than self or otherwise censored) views of people they're conversing with. You must have noticed how, since the restraints have lifted, most posters have now cottoned on to who Luciom really is? The lack of moderation has worked against him and his agenda.

Between your spelling mistakes and you freeing up your Sundays to watch football, you aren’t very convincing that you were ever a practicing Jew. You are definitely in second place behind Luciom for most racist poster but there is a pretty big gap. How Luciom didn’t catch his 99th temp ban or permaban for those posts is beyond me.

But sure, close the thread and just let the POS post whatever he wants….

So you never want more bigotry but also you don’t want to ban Luciom. Got it.

If you wanted to perma Luciom you’ve had plenty of opportunity, so I guess we agree.

It’s about the long term. Giving him enough rope by letting him show the forum who he really is, is far better than a series of temp bans that only teach him to colour between the lines better. As I said, it’s pretty clear that people who were unaware of his real beliefs are now more vocal in their condemnation. When it reaches a critical mass and most of his death wish posts are met with nothing but scorn and derision he might as well leave.

A really poor long term approach to politics and belief.

Language really matters. The need to call people names and run them off may be satisfying but it is is piss poor politics.

No one’s talking about name calling, that’s on you.

Your prescribed remedy of dealing with fascists was put to the test in your dreadful forum that was closed down when it became overrun with fascists who you wanted people to be nice to, one of whom, mongi, is back here again.

whatever you want to call it.

Self-censored views help with cognitive progress. Getting people to identify with their views at their worst is staggeringly stupid politics.

They were'nt new and they never go away. You dont want them banned apparantly. You dont even want their view moderated.

Crap as 'my' forum was, far worse is allowed now.