Moderation Questions

ok lozen but thats not the point.

That's fair. Probably only you, mongidig, and juan are actual Trump supporters. There are probably a half dozen other people who I would characterize more as MAGA-curious trolls than actual Trump supporters.

Better to just let perfect be the enemy of good and not support anything ever. Don’t do any activism whatsoever, never ****ing vote, and just sit at home and complain about both sides.

I don’t support murdering people for fun and profit. I want the system to change and I do what I can to facilitate that change.

Really?

I don't support violent action but strongly empathise with people motivation when they react against state injustice/ brutality. You dont?

How in the world did you reach the conclusion that extremists are mostly reacting to state injustice? Some are, of course, but many are not. Many extremists are using the state as a tool to perpetuate injustice. And many are unconcerned with state injustice.

Is reacting against state injustice extremism? I honestly don't know because a lot of contentious words dont have the same meaning anymore

I didn't reach such a conclusion

I was adding to your list of why people become extremists.

but thats what the system does. whether its run by Trump, Biden, or AOC.

Whatever, man. I legitimately used to think like you, but then I turned 20. The system being absolutely ****ed is no excuse to resign yourself to the peanut gallery. Being an infantile edgelord gets you nowhere and doesn’t help any of the people you claim to defend.

It’s fine to be jaded, but it’s dumb to do nothing.

I suspect that's the issue. Extremism is an irregular verb like terrorist and 'reasonable inference'

doing nothing is better than supporting Democrats. but regardless, I have never advocated "doing nothing." its just you guys lying bc you know I am right.

Must be some cool mental trick to vote for people who murder for fun and profit and then claim to not support them.

I can only assume you two paragons of progress are currently posting from a foxhole on the front of “real” change.

The **** is wrong with you?

I stand by what I said. I would be surprised if extremists as a group care inordinately about injustice to others.

An irregular verb?

Notice how you can’t quote a single thing that says that “victor became radicalized because he lost his job”

What I said was that it doesn’t seem far-fetched that when someone loses social or economic status, that could radicalize them. They don’t have to be radicalized the way you are. The point is that going through such a big change will shift someone’s outlook. Chillrob seemed to be saying it like it’s an unreasonable reaction, and I disagree.

Okay and I stand by what i said.

It's also one of big recruitment tools of terrorist groups.

It's an extension of my fantastic wit about the old wookian 'reasonable inference'

They lied
he made stuff up
we reasonable inferred
etc

In and of itself? Most definitely not.

I don't remember that either.

This hardly proves the point.

I think I can speak for all of us here when I say that we are all opposed to fascism.

(With the possible exception of NutNut, who of course wouldn't self-identify as a fascist. )

It's an example of my point. They appeal to people who have a strong reaction to injustice/brutality towards others.

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." - Barry Goldwater