Moderation Questions
Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by Victor m

half the board supports Trump and half supports the Obama/Biden/Clinton/Graham Platner Dems.

"Half the board supports Trump" is ridiculous imo.


by Rococo m

That's fair. Probably only you, mongidig, and juan are actual Trump supporters. There are probably a half dozen other people who I would characterize more as MAGA-curious trolls than actual Trump supporters.

At one time I was MAGA. Now I'm more RIPUSA.


by Rococo m

How in the world did you reach the conclusion that extremists are mostly reacting to state injustice? Some are, of course, but many are not. Many extremists are using the state as a tool to perpetuate injustice. And many are unconcerned with state injustice.

You and Chezlaw are both right (collectively) imo.


by Victor m

but thats what the system does. whether its run by Trump, Biden, or AOC.

#RIPUSA


by checkraisdraw m

Notice how you can’t quote a single thing that says that β€œvictor became radicalized because he lost his job”What I said was that it doesn’t seem far-fetched that when someone loses social or economic status, that could radicalize them. They don’t have to be radicalized the way you are. The point is that going through such a big change will shift someone’s outlook. Chillrob seem

If you are going to use quotes and attribute a statement to me, then you should at least copy and paste it so you get it right. Oh wait I forgot it's the way you clowns like to troll. Just relentless lying from the people who don't believe in anything but their own Supremacy.


by Victor m

doing nothing is better than supporting Democrats. but regardless, I have never advocated "doing nothing." its just you guys lying bc you know I am right.

If an Israeli living in Israel does nothing are they supporting the state of Israel?


by geezerchess m

You and Chezlaw are both right (collectively) imo.

I suspect much smeantic misuderstanding as well a spossible a very different view of cognitive models.

Here's something long that he may prefer to my more pith taking approach (not saying it represents my views entirely)

7. Conclusions

The conclusion of this review supports the hypothesis that young radicalized people may have specificities in the development of SE abilities leading to an atypical SE profile that differs from that of young people with other nonprosocial behaviors.

We claim that, far from being rooted in a total deficit in SE, radicalization may be related to a paradox combining normal and even enhanced empathy promoted by the accentuation of social identification with the in-group as opposed to poor empathy for the out-group. More importantly, preserved and even enhanced in-group empathic abilities among these individuals may play a crucial role in the violence directed at an out-group. Moreover, a hypothetical dissociation between higher affective versus lower cognitive empathic abilities may favor an overload of the emotional system with no compensation of either top-down regulation mechanisms or cognitive criticism. A transitory dissociation of empathy leading to radical acting out may occur, but such a dissociation remains scarce in youth. It should nevertheless be underlined that this profile may apply only to some of the adolescents who engage in radicalization and should not lead to the trivialization of this issue or to exclusion of the fact that some of them may indeed present a frank empathy deficit.

Finally, SE development suggests differences among evolutionary trajectories that may lead to radicalization. This is an essential prerequisite for a better specification of the clinical and neuropsychological underpinnings of radicalization, not only to detect but also to develop, at both the individual and collective levels, the appropriate responses.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PM...


by Victor m

If you are going to use quotes and attribute a statement to me, then you should at least copy and paste it so you get it right. Oh wait I forgot it's the way you clowns like to troll. Just relentless lying from the people who don't believe in anything but their own Supremacy.

I have no idea what you’re trying to say here, can you be more clear? I’m really lost as to how this interacts with the post you were seemingly replying to.


I can't help you read man


by chezlaw m

It's an extension of my fantastic wit about the old wookian 'reasonable inference'

They lied
he made stuff up
we reasonable inferred
etc

I still don't understand, but that's a common feature of discussions between the two of us.


by geezerchess m

At one time I was MAGA. Now I'm more RIPUSA.

Strange that you don't see any connection.


by Victor m

I can't help you read man

Victor: non-sequitor yap

Me: can you be more clear

Victor: durrr you can’t read muh fun and profit


by StoppedRainingMen m

The **** is wrong with you?

You mean why I don't have the ability to vote for evil and rationalize it away or something else?


by Rococo m

I still don't understand, but that's a common feature of discussions between the two of us.

Indeed although I'm a bit surprised this time. You're familiar with the idea of an irregular verb being one that doesn't follow standard conjugation rules?


Sometimes these misunderstandings lead to something interesting. Looking for a reference to help I learned that the great Bertrund Russell had defined "emotional conjugation"

Emotional conjugation was originally defined by Bertrand Russell in 1948 on the BBC Radio program, The Brains Trust.[2] During an interview, he gave multiple examples of emotive conjugation, one of them being the following:[3]

I am firm, you are obstinate, he is a pig-headed fool.

and

Russell's claims are supported by Frank Luntz' study on changes in authoritative language conducted in the 1990s. Luntz found that the majority of opinions were reached based on the emotive conjugation that was used without consideration of any underlying facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_co...

Same link contains the origin (as fas I know) of the joke

The inherent incongruity also lends itself to humor, as employed by Bernard Woolley in the BBC television series Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister:[6][7]

It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it?
I have an independent mind, You are eccentric, He is round the twist.[8]

That's another of those irregular verbs, isn't it?
I give confidential press briefings; you leak; he's being charged under section 2A of the Official Secrets Act.[9]

Never occurred to them or me that people might not get it. maybe a UK-USA thing


by Rococo m

Strange that you don't see any connection.

Death by hanging or death by lethal injection. Take your pick.


by chezlaw m

Indeed although I'm a bit surprised this time. You're familiar with the idea of an irregular verb being one that doesn't follow standard conjugation rules?

Of course. But what does the conjugation of irregular verbs have to do with a word that is not a verb?


by chezlaw m

Sometimes these misunderstandings lead to something interesting. Looking for a reference to help I learned that the great Bertrund Russell had defined "emotional conjugation"

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_co...

Same link contains the origin (as fas I know) of the joke

Never occurred to them or me that people might not get it. maybe a UK-USA thing

It's a new idea for me as well


by Rococo m

Of course. But what does the conjugation of irregular verbs have to do with a word that is not a verb?

Are you proud of the useless nonsense you know?


by mongidig m

Are you proud of the useless nonsense you know?

The three things mong "knows":

Adolf was great

Trump is great

Brown people are not great


by chezlaw m

Sometimes these misunderstandings lead to something interesting. Looking for a reference to help I learned that the great Bertrund Russell had defined "emotional conjugation"

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_co...

Same link contains the origin (as fas I know) of the joke

Never occurred to them or me that people might not get it. maybe a UK-USA thing

chez,

You honestly thought that this joke, and the origins of the joke, were so widely understood in the English speaking world that you could throw out that reference and people would be bound to get it? I can't speak for the UK, but not one person in a thousand in the U.S. would have understood what you were referring to.


by mongidig m

Are you proud of the useless nonsense you know?

In this thread, we learn that mongo believes it is "useless" to know what a verb is. I fear for the future of the human race.


it's worthwhile to remember that dumping on anyone who's educated/knowledgeable/has an expertise is a hallmark of deplorables. their feelings of inferiority define them, so they vote for a rapists


by BobTheSlob m

The three things mong "knows":

Adolf was great

Trump is great

Brown people are not great

He knows a lot of other things, such as:

England is very stabby.

Women love the smell of paint.

Women are good for ****ing or getting naked on camera, but not much else.

Understanding basic grammar is strictly for intellectuals who lack his level of testosterone.

The proper amount of masturbation is 4 times per day for amateurs, 5-7 times per day for semi-pros, and 8+ times per day for true pros.


by King_of_NYC m

it's worthwhile to remember that dumping on anyone who's educated/knowledgeable/has an expertise is a hallmark of deplorables. their feelings of inferiority define them, so they vote for a rapists

The weird thing is that I didn't show any particular expertise in grammar (nor do I have any particular expertise in grammar). I just knew the definition of an irregular verb.

The phenomenon you are describing isn't just a U.S. thing. There is a long history of repressive regimes of all stripes targeting educated people, with the Khmer Rouge being being one of the more notorious examples.

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