Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
Scary thing is it is a mandate in some ways. It is where and what the country is except for small swaths. He won 80% of the counties, picked up ground in 90% of the counties, and hammered the swing states. It's gonna be a heck of a thing to watch, as to just how historic and fateful it turns out.
So it looks like Trump is pussying out on his tariff threat to Canada
Ahh, concentration camps now, they are getting well on track from the fascist playbook
"US President Donald Trump has ordered the construction of a migrant detention facility in Guantanamo Bay which he said would hold as many as 30,000 people."
"...There are 15 prisoners currently being held there."
Be nice if we could say that Biden hadn't opened that door
It goes back to Obama - I lost total respect for him when he didn't close Guantanamo Bay.
Pretty sure Biden started chucking some migrants in
It goes back to Obama - I lost total respect for him when he didn't close Guantanamo Bay.
He couldn't do it, congress refused to do it. It's not something POTUS can do by himself because closing it had costs, and congress didn't appropriate the money for that to happen.
He did write an EO like 3 days into office (jan 2009) to close gitmo down.
He tried again several times.
Moving prisoners included costs that congress wasn't willing to allow.
Kinda incredible i have to defend Obama on that, but the idea that POTUS powers are greater than they are in reality is so embedded, people think POTUS is responsible for a lot of things that happen (or promises he can't keep) when he is not.
Applies to both parties ofc
he never actually sent anyone there but I remember there were articles saying the idea was being floated.
and now today we get this
hmmm
I was just going by teh BBC. Noit quite how I recalled it but they say there are migrants there. Not detained says biden whatever that means
The US has already been using a facility in Guantanamo - known as the Guantanamo Migrant Operations Center (GMOC) - for decades and through various administrations, both Republican and Democrat.
In a 2024 report, the International Refugee Assistance Project (IRAP) accused the government of secretly holding migrants there in "inhumane" conditions indefinitely after detaining them at sea.
The GMOC has principally housed migrants picked up at sea and was recently the subject of a Freedom of Information request by the American Civil Liberties Union for the disclosure of records about the site.
The Biden Administration responded that it "is not a detention facility and none of the migrants there are detained".
Was driving by a gas station today with a Trumper who said, "Gas is $2.68. Thank you Donald Trump." Meanwhile the plane crash is caused by DEI. Check. We hear you.
fair enough,DD
It starts at home ... in the psyche. He is so in disdain about the truth of his own shadow that he flaunts the disdain by overruling truth as his primary way of being in the world, and calls this twisted anti-reality "truth." Wishes, whims, fancies, compensations, denials, double-downs, and the like in place of truth, this broadcast as truth to the masses willing to play along. This is the motor of "Nineteen Eighty-Four" and "Brave New World."
Do you think gas prices would be lower on average over the next 25 years if we got 4 more years of trump or 4 years of kamala right now? I don't find it interesting about the change in gas prices over a few weeks, but I would find it interesting to know if there are some people who think the answer to my question is kamala and why.
Do you think gas prices would be lower on average over the next 25 years if we got 4 more years of trump or 4 years of kamala right now? I don't find it interesting about the change in gas prices over a few weeks, but I would find it interesting to know if there are some people who think the answer to my question is kamala and why.
The reality is if Trump puts tariffs on CDN oil gas is going up in the USA . Yes you can keep drilling and drilling but you cant refine that oil as its to light. Though creating more oil on the market could lower the price per barrel
Under Kamala not a chance with the green vision
Do you think gas prices would be lower on average over the next 25 years if we got 4 more years of trump or 4 years of kamala right now? I don't find it interesting about the change in gas prices over a few weeks, but I would find it interesting to know if there are some people who think the answer to my question is kamala and why.
I think that 25 years from now it would be irrelevant who is currently president. Do you think prices today have anything to do with Clinton?
And if it was different in a way that made gas prices higher, would no one have done anything about it? 25 years is a long time and everything changes everything.
Well if the claim is "eventual mistakes committed 20-30 years ago are necessarily fixed soon anyway", then i have to disagree.
Not for Clinton clearly, who was actually a very good president for the economy (and at a time when he mattered a lot to broker Congressional decisionmaking as well, unlike these days) .
But i mean i think you agree with me with the claim "entitlements are utterly broken in their current path", and the topic has been clear for a looooong while, so it isn't obvious at all that if the USA had avoided the insanity of the "great society" for example, we would be in the same place welfare-wise with the same untackable ever-growing disbursements ongoing.
Gas prices *might* work in the way you mean it, they are somewhat more malleable to short-term decision making for a variety of reasons. But who is president (and more in general, which laws get passed, which key decisions happen) can have very significant price repercussions for decades.
Like i mean, obamacare will have price repercussions on healthcare as long as it is not repealed in full (inflationary, as more people get covered with the same supply available)
Well if the claim is "eventual mistakes committed 20-30 years ago are necessarily fixed soon anyway", then i have to disagree.
Not for Clinton clearly, who was actually a very good president for the economy (and at a time when he mattered a lot to broker Congressional decisionmaking as well, unlike these days) .
But i mean i think you agree with me with the claim "entitlements are utterly broken in their current path", and the topic has been clear for a looooong while, so it isn't obvious at all t
But we don't care about 25 years in the futur!
Sacrificing my ability to buy cheap gas right now is a crime and a shame, these guys are evil and should be executed on sight!
Why should I accept any increase on gas right now???
For what?
A potential better futur?
A potentiel better price in the futur?
Nonsense!!!
But we don't care about 25 years in the futur!
Sacrificing my ability to buy cheap gas right now is a crime and a shame, these guys are evil and should be executed on sight!
Why should I accept any increase on gas right now???
For what?
A potential better futur?
A potentiel better price in the futur?
Nonsense!!!
When a J curve (pay a cost now for a benefit in the future) can be shown to exist and people convinced about it, if you convince enough of them without violence and you act within constitutional limits you can act for the long term.
Fact is for fossil fuels there is no such model ongoing, it's actually "you could have it cheaper today and tomorrow", just deregulate it's extraction as much as you can
Do you think gas prices would be lower on average over the next 25 years if we got 4 more years of trump or 4 years of kamala right now? I don't find it interesting about the change in gas prices over a few weeks, but I would find it interesting to know if there are some people who think the answer to my question is kamala and why.
All of Trump, Biden, and Harris are absolutely clueless when it comes to the oil and gas industry. Trump is most likely to completely crash the economy and has already shown he is willing to make deals that send the price through the roof (OPEC 2020-2022 production cut deal that caused the spike that everyone blames on Biden). Trump previously almost completely killed the entire american oil and gas industry by getting OPEC to flood the market at possibly the worst time anyone could ever do it, just prior to demand crashing due to covid.
Due to sheer incompetence demonstrated repeatedly by Trump, I'd say both Harris or Biden would be better, but not because I think they have the slightest clue about the industry. They are just smart enough to let the people that do know make the important decisions, unlike df-in-chief.
