Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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06 November 2024 at 12:32 PM
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by bahbahmickey k

Not necessarily, but if trump goes all-in on "drill baby drill" that could effect prices for decades to come. Clinton could have effected the prices to day if he went all-in on fossil fuels or green energy.

In general, I don't think presidents get enough credit or blame for what happens after their time as president and too much credit/blame for things that happen during their term(s). For instance, look at the stark difference in who economists would name as the president who deserves the most

Seem Some People forget oil is an international market….
Same thing with trump tariffs, as if the world would not adjust and strike back at the US ….

Trump didn’t win the first time with it in his first term .


by Land O Lakes k

Hasn't that been going on since the 50's or 60's? What does that have to do with your claim that Clinton is responsible for gas prices today?

you never heard of the proportionality rule that basically forced Canada after NAFTA to export massively and increasing (with overall production) quantities of oil to the USA? that went away on paper with Trump "redoing " of the treaty but pipelines are a sticky thing and sunk costs have insane inertia so basically Canada is selling you a lot more oil than it would have otherwise of specific grades with your refineries make into gasoline properly because they have been optimized for it which canada couldn't easily sell elsewhere now unless they spend a **** ton to redo the insanely complicated logistics, so you have cheaper oil to make into gasoline that you would otherwise have had thanks to Clinton, and that's still going on.

hope that helps



by 5 south k

Trump can chant drill baby drill all he wants but are the gas companies really clamoring to massively increase production and bring the price per barrel down by increasing supply? Isn't it like $50 a barrel and fracking starts not being worth it anymore and production goes on pause?

Yup
But they always think private sector works for the population benefit not the companies benefits shrug .


by Luciom k

you never heard of the proportionality rule that basically forced Canada after NAFTA to export massively and increasing (with overall production) quantities of oil to the USA? that went away on paper with Trump "redoing " of the treaty but pipelines are a sticky thing and sunk costs have insane inertia so basically Canada is selling you a lot more oil than it would have otherwise of specific grades with your refineries make into gasoline properly because they have been optimized for it which can

I don’t know what you actually means but to be clear, Canada oil export to the US are made at under international prices by a big margin for years if not decades ….
The US are fine .


by Montrealcorp k

I don’t know what you actually means but to be clear, Canada oil export to the US are made at under international prices by a big margin for years if not decades ….
The US are fine .

Canadian oil price is the WCS which sells for a lot less than the WTI ("normal" American oil) thanks among many reasons to Clinton yes


by Luciom k

you never heard of the proportionality rule that basically forced Canada after NAFTA to export massively and increasing (with overall production) quantities of oil to the USA? that went away on paper with Trump "redoing " of the treaty but pipelines are a sticky thing and sunk costs have insane inertia so basically Canada is selling you a lot more oil than it would have otherwise of specific grades with your refineries make into gasoline properly because they have been optimized for it which can

Once again, how is Clinton responsible for gas going up since Trump's inauguration?


by Luciom k

Canadian oil price is the WCS which sells for a lot less than the WTI ("normal" American oil) thanks among many reasons to Clinton yes

I don’t see how Clinton is implicated in this today .
It was about how hard Canada had trouble reaching other markets .
It’s changing with new pipelines .
I guess Clinton disappearing …


Under the Tennessee bill, any local leader who votes in favor of such a policy [.. ie for a sanctuary policy], and therefore against the White House administration's views, could be imprisoned for one to six years, and/or be fined up to $3,000.

So, criminal charges if you don't vote with Trump.

You poor bastards.


It’s real freedom mate !
Freedom is when u deny people , not when u actually let people decide (like for abortion) .
Less government in our life means having more restrictions and threats from the government…


by diebitter k

Under the Tennessee bill, any local leader who votes in favor of such a policy [.. ie for a sanctuary policy], and therefore against the White House administration's views, could be imprisoned for one to six years, and/or be fined up to $3,000.

So, criminal charges if you don't vote with Trump.

You poor bastards.

Unconstitutional, will be easily kicked by courts


by Luciom k

Unconstitutional, will be easily kicked by courts

I thought anyone proposing anything unconstitutional should be executed on sight?


by weeeez k

I thought anyone proposing anything unconstitutional should be executed on sight?

Not on sight but after judgement if they pass unconstitutional provision and the law forbids that and so on.

Unfortunately my model isn't the law in your country (or any other) so elected officials can disregard the constitution, and the damaged individuals have to seek redress in courts.

If my model was the law they wouldn't pass that garbage


by Montrealcorp k

I don’t see how Clinton is implicated in this today .
It was about how hard Canada had trouble reaching other markets .
It’s changing with new pipelines .
I guess Clinton disappearing …

Changing with new pipelines . One new pipeline and the Liberal government the last 9 years blocked all new pipelines including Energy East and Gateway North as well as LNG ones
Canada created their own problem by only having limited markets for their oil and refining

Also if the IS A wants to retool those refineries it would take years and cost billions


by Luciom k

which is the same treaty but he changed the initials then went back to play golf

So you should probably say trump's globalist baby is actually the thing playing a role in gas prices.


by lozen k

Changing with new pipelines . One new pipeline and the Liberal government the last 9 years blocked all new pipelines including Energy East and Gateway North as well as LNG ones
Canada created their own problem by only having limited markets for their oil and refining

Also if the IS A wants to retool those refineries it would take years and cost billions

Many province were against new pipeline from the east .
Quebec says hi .
But keep claiming every problem in Canada is Trudeau ….

And again this has nothing to do with the original point .
Just try to connect the dot to hate on liberals …

Ps: nafta exist since the 90s , what did Harper do to fix it when in power for 10 years ?
Oops…yeah liberal faults …


There it is


Germany hasn't got any punishment from Trump yet. I predict he will move Ramstein Air Base to Gaza!



Are they doing stuff that's clearly meant to kick African-Americans yet (other than the war against equality) ? I guess they'll be next once the trans and equality hate starts running out of steam?


by diebitter k

Are they doing stuff that's clearly meant to kick African-Americans yet (other than the war against equality) ? I guess they'll be next once the trans and equality hate starts running out of steam?

Why do you think African Americans will fair worse under trump? We’ve already had 4 years of trump - do you think they did bad during his first term and if so why do you think that?

What do you mean when you say trump has a war against equality? He’s the one fighting for equality and fighting against equity.


by bahbahmickey k

What do you mean when you say trump has a war against equality? He’s the one fighting for equality and fighting against equity.

Maybe he started doing this after scamming his base for billions a couple of days before being sworn in?


by bahbahmickey k

He’s the one fighting for equality and fighting against equity.

Equity: Definition: the quality of being fair and impartial.

so you're saying Trump is fighting against being fair and impartial?

We agree.


Trump arguing for a meritocratic approach after you see the set of bozos and assclowns he's appointed - none of which merit their positions in any way by any metric - wow.

Wow.


by diebitter k

Equity: Definition: the quality of being fair and impartial.

so you're saying Trump is fighting against being fair and impartial?

We agree.

You could also take this definition of equity and act ignorant to what I mean: the value of a mortgaged property after deduction of charges against it. Although it wouldn’t have been smart of you to do so you still would have sounded smarter than your actual response.

Impartial is likely the last word an educated or almost educated person would use when describing equity in the sense that it is used today when talking about college admissions, hiring and promotions in company.


by diebitter k

Are they doing stuff that's clearly meant to kick African-Americans yet (other than the war against equality) ? I guess they'll be next once the trans and equality hate starts running out of steam?

oh they're doing it already

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-ne...

Which Law Enforcement agency usually investigates this kind of web site, promoting people as 'targets'? Is it the FBI?

oh boy.

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