Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
Wow lotta ******s got their panties in a bunch about a throwaway statement.
Well, there were concerted efforts both to undermine the 2020 election, to not certify it and to "find votes" so results could be overturned, both from the Trump administration and its close allies in congress and beyond.
Now, it is true that there is a big leap from this to cancelling elections, but we can conclude that the ambition to make elections irrelevant exist and we can conclude that it isn't just a fringe view.
So, "cancelling elections" is the wrong term. You would go the route of Russ
td,
I agree that what you wrote above is the type of risk that the current trajectory brings into play. Because of Trump's age, and because of term limits (which would require a complete abdication by the SCOTUS to evade), I don't think Trump has enough time to personally turn the United States into Orban's Hungary. The real question is the extent to which Trumpism will endure after Trump is gone. I honestly don't know the answer. But you should count me among the people who are very concerned. As I've said countless times, real damage is being done. And the last decade has revealed that a lot of people either don't care if the country slides in the direction of authoritarianism or don't recognize what that would look like.
FWIW, I also think that U.S. politics could bend more in the direction of dysfunctional Brazil-style shithousery rather than Orban's Hungary. That would be terrible as well.
I get that it may have been a throwaway statement by you, but you have to understand the current pattern in U.S.A. No. 1.
Trump and his minions say extreme things on the reg. When people express concern about the extreme things, Trump's defenders characterize the statements as bluster, a joke, trolling the libs, etc. Over time, the extreme things that were characterized as unserious take on a life of their own and become quite serious.
That's why people here tend to get their hackles up in response to extreme statements.
td,
I agree that what you wrote above is the type of risk that the current trajectory brings into play. Because of Trump's age, and because of term limits (which would require a complete abdication by the SCOTUS to evade), I don't think Trump has enough time to personally turn the United States into Orban's Hungary. The real question is the extent to which Trumpism will endure after Trump is gone. I honestly don't know the answer. But you should count me among the people who are very concerne
How do you think your idea that the US "slides in the direction of authoritarianism" goes with trump reducing the power of the fed gov't - which the president is the leader of ?
I only ask because I've heard others echo your point, but I'm not seeing example that outweigh trump's ideas/policies of:
reducing the size of the fed gov't
reducing the scope of the fed gov't
a rule that requires getting rid of 10 regulations to add 1 regulation
cutting taxes
making abortion a state issue, rather than a federal
letting go of fed gov't employees
I get that it may have been a throwaway statement by you, but you have to understand the current pattern in U.S.A. No. 1.
Ok the serious part of what I said really concerns this: I cannot see midterm elections being run fairly. It's fully consistent with Trumpthink that Trump will call 'rigged' and do his utmost to have what he says disrupt votes in dem places (and moreso in swinging towards dem places). He did it before with 0 evidence. He was calling rigged months before the election with 0 evidence when he got a feel the vote was going against him.
I think if there's even a chance of the special elections coming up and swinging to the dems, we'll see it earlier. I kind of hope it becomes close, so we can all see what Trump does.
Best possible outcome for America in the coming months is if the 3 special election coming all swing to dem, Trump fails to disupt, and it flips the house.
Start war with cartels and declare martial law, suspend elections so no chance for dems to gain seats. Since you guys are totally fine with Zelensky doing it you cannot complain.
I don't know where we are going as a country. But I feel like RFK's brainworm compromised voice talking about cod liver oil as a public health response to measles outbreaks is some kind of mile marker for our eventual destination.
I don't know why for the speech he didn't just say:
"Black is white. White is black. Thank you very much."
His faithful wouldn't leave him. I guess when you concoct such a thing as Truth Social, you don't quite let it in what you are doing. The anti-reality king POTUS careens all that he touches toward unreality, toward falseness, toward destruction.
75-85% certain Trump's a Russian asset. That low?
Every single ai chatbot is rated deeply woke because even ai knows that having a rampaging bot calling people insults and slurs is bad for business
Given the absence of concrete evidence, assigning a precise numerical likelihood (on a scale of 1 to 100) to the claim that Trump is a compromised asset of Putin is not feasible. While certain patterns and associations may raise concerns, they do not substantiate definitive conclusions. Therefore, any numerical estimation would be speculative and not grounded in verified information.
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Given the lack of hard evidence and the multiple interpretations of the available data, if one were forced to provide a numerical estimate on a scale from 1 to 100, the likelihood might be placed at around 10 out of 100. This low number reflects the consensus among mainstream investigations that—while there are enough provocative aspects in his behavior to raise questions—there is insufficient evidence to conclude that he is a compromised asset.
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