Trump 2nd term prediction thread

I do know. I would like to see you support your claim with empirical evidence. Keep in mind that poor implementation of an idea does not mean the idea is poor. These practices are meant to help curb the OBVIOUS systemic racism in place, so it is not a simple solution, nor a perfect one. However, it is a NECESSARY attempt. Decrying this without also decrying the state before this is, at best, absolutely indicative of ignorance, and most likely rooted in racism itself.

"Most effective DEI programs use racial data to identify discriminatory barriers that are compromising fairness and meritocracy in the workplace, and to develop initiatives that remove those barriers for everyone.

For example, if an analysis using racial data uncovers disproportionate barriers for Black, Asian, Latine, and Indigenous manager candidates due to the lack of a standard promotions process and high barriers to entry for candidates, a DEI initiative might follow up by working with all leaders to develop a standardized promotions process, train leaders on how to use it and how to interrupt biases, and automatically consider all employees for promotion after three years in a position. These initiatives would have the added benefit of reducing manager favoritism, nepotism, and other unethical practices that might negatively impact workers from any background. Most DEI initiatives follow this pattern: They collect data on marginalized groups to design workplaces that work better for everyone."

https://hbr.org/2023/07/how-to-effectively-and-legally-use-racial-data-for-dei

Harvard Business Review

How to Effectively — and Legally — Use Racial Data for DEI

It's astonishing the amount of crap trump has done in less than a month but the pearl clutching is getting next level.

How do you think those barriers are identified? I would be interested in knowing how you could do it without counting results.

Did I say it was done without counting the results? I actually explicitly said how to use those results. What I said was that it doesn't just become a quota system by default. It certainly can, but that is not a proper implementation of the concept.

How do you think a manager would react to being told "you don't hire enough people from Pittsburgh, you'll need to go through training until you get it right"? I'll give you the answer, they'll hire more people from Pittsburgh until they are not being flagged anymore.

I'm glad you are here to tell us how you would implement this. I'll reiterate: a poor implementation of an idea does not mean the idea is poor. I would hope you would do better, because the guidelines are pretty explicit about how to handle that. It also lists the benefits of this. Competent leaders would be able to handle this.

Do you have any suggestions or do you think let's just go back to the overt racism of the past is the solution?

From what you wrote it doesn’t like the study you quoted actually answers the question of what percentage each variable accounts for in determining why a race has higher unemployment than other races. Is that correct? If so, I’m not sure why you responded to me using that study since we are in agreement that HR racism is a problem.

Again, I’m not saying racism isn’t a contributing factor. I’m asking what percentage of the differences in employment between races can be the fault of racism AND of those variables we list under racism what % is because of HR racism as opposed to racism somewhere before the hiring point.

You are free to research this topic that you are obviously interested in but has nothing to do with what I was talking about on your own if you'd like.

I apologize. I incorrectly thought you were interested in actually fixing the unemployment gap in races.

No need to apologize. I should apologize. I didn't think your brain was so damaged that you thought your question somehow was leading to a solution. I had no idea that you were so misguided that you believed an exact percentage was required in order to do anything at all.

Carry on. Let us know how you do without my help counting!

Knowing why a problem occurs doesn't fix the problem - it just allows you to know what you need to do to fix it. It seems odd you are interested in fixing the problem, but you don't like the idea of finding out why the problem occurs.

It would be like if you got either the flu or covid every other week - your solution would be to get take a flu shot and the covid vax every two weeks when you felt sick. I would want to figure out why you are getting sick so much more often than anyone else and then I would tell you to take the shots and also stop making out with strippers during flu season.

I'm sorry you felt the need to insult my intelligence.

I predict the pope will pass on Friday at 8:14 local time

I told you why the problem occurs. You decided it didn't count unless you knew the exact number. Have fun.

You don't need help doing that.

You said the reason there is a gap in the unemployment of difference races is because of racist HR people. You can't honestly believe that is even 70% of the reason for the gap, can you?

I did not say racist HR people. You did. I said racism. And that is 100% of the gap.

How about we put it on a 1:1 path with and while we're waiting for trickle down economics to finally kick in? 😀

"true DEI has never been tried"

pass

We gotta amp DEI up to 11 for it to work.

Saying 100% of the wage gap is because of racism is beyond silly. Somehow you managed to sound smarter when you were personally attacking someone because you disagreed with them than posting this.

Every DEI program works this way? Do you have a source?

And this is why I don't bother engaging with you. It's not silly. It's the entire problem. You're simply making up excuses so you don't have to address racism because you benefit from it.

You don't want the source. There's a reason the data is brown and sticky.

who is going to tell gorgo that his idol Buttigieg removed pronouns from bio on social media and went allin against DEI training

who is going to tell luci that Pete Buttigieg is not my idol and I couldn't care less what he does on social media?