Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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by MrDavitWilliam k

Those of us who are white, male, educated and have access to resources will be just fine. Can’t say that about other demographics, unfortunately. Buckle. Up.

What demographics do you think aren’t going to be ok and why?


by bahbahmickey k

What demographics do you think aren’t going to be ok and why?

Any demographics that are not white male. Why? Because a huge swath of Trump supporters is talentless stupid white male idiots like the guy in the story below, that’s why. And Trump has emboldened these dipshits by telling them they’ve been somehow wronged by those who do not look like them. And they are angry, sexually frustrated (the most malignant kind of frustration) incels who want revenge. Buckle. Up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185...


by bahbahmickey k

What demographics do you think aren’t going to be ok and why?

Definitely black people. The white supremacists are in charge now. And women. They took their rights away already.


by bahbahmickey k

What demographics do you think aren’t going to be ok and why?

All of them but white males. Because I pay attention.


by MrDavitWilliam k

Any demographics that are not white male. Why? Because a huge swath of Trump supporters is talentless stupid white male idiots like the guy in the story below, that’s why. And Trump has emboldened these dipshits by telling them they’ve been somehow wronged by those who do not look like them. And they are angry, sexually frustrated (the most malignant kind of frustration) incels who want revenge. Buckle. Up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185...

by biggerboat k

Definitely black people. The white supremacists are in charge now. And women. They took their rights away already.

by Gorgonian k

All of them but white males. Because I pay attention.

I asked why and none of you could provide even one example except David’s point that there is now one racist person in the US now… news for David: there was racism before trump too.


Couldn't provide an example or couldn't be bothered trying to talk to a brick wall?

The world may never know.


Well, there's this guy.

Mr. Miller was influential in Mr. Trump’s first term but stands to be exponentially more so this time. He holds the positions of deputy chief of staff, with oversight of domestic policy, and homeland security adviser, which gives him range to coordinate among cabinet agencies. He will be a key legislative strategist and is expected to play an important role in crafting Mr. Trump’s speeches, as he has done since he joined the first Trump campaign in 2016.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate...

Miller recommended in a Sept. 6, 2015, email that Breitbart write about “The Camp of the Saints,” a racist French novel by Jean Raspail. Notably, “The Camp of the Saints” is popular among white nationalists and neo-Nazis because of the degree to which it fictionalizes the “white genocide” or “great replacement” myth into a violent and sexualized story about refugees.

The novel’s apocalyptic plot centers on a flotilla of Indian people who invade France, led by a nonwhite Indian-born antagonist referred to as the “turd eater” – a character who literally eats human feces. In one section, a white woman is raped to death by brown-skinned refugees. In another, a nationalist character shoots and kills a pro-refugee leftist over his support of race mixing. The white nationalist Social Contract Press plucked the 1973 book from relative obscurity and distributed it in the United States.

At the start of the email chain in which Miller touts the novel, he sends McHugh and Breitbart editor Julia Hahn a National Journal article on Iowans debating immigration at 8:03 p.m. ET on Sept. 1, 2015. McHugh replies:


Fascism only thrives by using scapegoating to keep supporters distracted from the fact their lives are actually not improving.

Clearly for the USA now, it starts with illegal immigrants, which will then conflate into recent legal immigrants, which will then conflate into black people and probably jews. External wars or scapegoating of nearby nations also help (see Canada, Panama, Greenland).

There's also clearly a trend now to try and intimate Europeans are a lower level than Americans now too, that I'm sure will grow as Trump runs out of EO's to throw up, and a similar trend to make Russia just fine for MAGA (expect more of 'Russia good, Europe bad' in the next few weeks and months).

And the suppression of women into subservience has its own track, starting with rights over their own bodies being removed.

And for anyone not heterosexual... well, we've already seen how much hate is being attempted to be whipped up about this.

It's like someone either doesn't understand fascism or is militantly ignorant and proud of it.


by diebitter k

Fascism only thrives by using scapegoating to keep supporters distracted from the fact their lives are actually not improving.

Clearly it starts with illegal immigrants, which will then conflate into recent legal immigrants, which will then conflate into black people. External wars or scapegoating of nearby nations also help (see Canada, Panama, Greenland)

And the suppression of women into subservience has its own track, starting with rights over their own bodies being removed.

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fascism happened in a country that had no immigrants and was 100% "white" (according to current uses of the label white).


And this all seems to be about raising cover around tax cuts for billionaires. Such a pathetic, selfish and childish reason for taking a hammer to the current world order.


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by thethethe k

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by bahbahmickey k

Just to be clear, are you trying to suggest it isn't racist for a company, college or gov't to hire, promote or allow entry on the basis of race?

Giving preferential treatment on the basis of race has always and will always be racist. Like I said, Trump will go down as the president in our lifetimes who did more to reduce racism than any other president. I know that is difficult to swallow because claiming he's racist is a pillar of the Dem party at this point, but you have to let this one go. B

Does it bother you that before DEI white people were hired for positions in grossly disproportionate amounts compared to other demographics? Is that racist? Is that what you are advocating returning to? If not, what is your solution for avoiding that?


Ok USA is going to darker and darker places by the day, and anyone who has even a small knowledge of history knows how this turns out.

Dems seem to be sticking to the rules to fight someone who doesn't seem to need to stick to the rules or indeed have to, and I'm guessing we're going to find out soon if he ignores the SCOTUS (unless they all decide he's allowed to be king rather than president, which is a distinct possibility).

What do average Americans do? You know the historical precedents for this, what do YOU do? Or what do you expect?

1930s Germany? 1780s France? 1860s America? Something else?


by diebitter k

What do average Americans do? You know the historical precedents for this, what do YOU do? Or what do you expect?

I honestly don't know what to do. I'm old.

I expect we won't have another presidential election in my lifetime. I also expect the economy to get wrecked. The people in charge are incompetent. I expect things to get violent.


by diebitter k

What do average Americans do? You know the historical precedents for this, what do YOU do? Or what do you expect?

Stop pants wetting and let the democratically elected government get on with what it promised and was elected to do.

That would be my advice.

If you don't like it select better candidates next time and vote them out of office.

That's how democracy works.


by Brian James k

That's how democracy works.

Except you want to destroy democracy.


by Brian James k

If you don't like it select better candidates next time and vote them out of office.

I don't think there will be a next time.


"vote them out of office"

Would you give this advice to Russians about Putin? Do you think that's feasible in a country where the leader is basically a king, or becoming a king?


I'm not American btw, so I have the benefit of actual news reportage, not the filtered mush the USA seems to get.


by diebitter k

I'm not American btw, so I have the benefit of actual news reportage, not the filtered mush the USA seems to get.

The trumpers get their "news" from randoms on twitter. They can't be bothered with actual news.


by Gorgonian k

Does it bother you that before DEI white people were hired for positions in grossly disproportionate amounts compared to other demographics?

Yes.

by Gorgonian k

Is that racist?

Possibly (see below).

by Gorgonian k

Is that what you are advocating returning to?

No.

by Gorgonian k

If not, what is your solution for avoiding that?

The solution should start with figuring out the why - WHY are white people being hired and promoted at higher rates than other demographics? I would doubt there is only one cause of this problem - such as HR people being racist is 100% to blame for this problem.

It could be some combo of racist HR people, grade schools are quicker to kick non-white kids out of school or teachers don't work as hard to teach non-whites, there is a fundamental teaching that some races pass down to their kids that isn't as frequent in some other races or who knows how many other variables.

It is hard to believe that when you look back at white unemployment compared to black unemployment through the years that there haven't been more studies done to figure out why the black unemployment is (almost?) always higher.

My point is that instead of the govt having and encouraging others to employee racist hiring tactics we should find what the root of the problem is and try to fix it.


by bahbahmickey k

The solution should start with figuring out the why - WHY are white people being hired and promoted at higher rates than other demographics? I would doubt there is only one cause of this problem - such as HR people being racist is 100% to blame for this problem.

Very likely the number is not 100%, but it is close enough to 100% to focus on that as the issue.

by bahbahmickey k

It could be some combo of racist HR people, grade schools are quicker to kick non-white kids out of school or teachers don't work as hard to teach non-whites, there is a fundamental teaching that some races pass down to their kids that isn't as frequent in some other races or who knows how many other variables.

Yes, it is some combo of racist people, agreed.

by bahbahmickey k

It is hard to believe that when you look back at white unemployment compared to black unemployment through the years that there haven't been more studies done to figure out why the black unemployment is (almost?) always higher.

More? There have been plenty. The answer is racism.

by bahbahmickey k

My point is that instead of the govt having and encouraging others to employee racist hiring tactics we should find what the root of the problem is and try to fix it.

Racism. We don't need more studies. DEI is not racist. It is explicitly anti-racist. Only people that don't understand what it is call it racist.

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