President Elon Musk

I've pointed out your fascist flag flying, I don't need to sit here and watch you flail all over the forum trying to rescue yourself from it.

Have a nice day.

To be honest, you make hundreds of posts each day that I mostly just scroll past your walls of text. Sorry if your take is it's going to take a year for grocery prices to go down.

Hint: grocery prices never go down (at best they flatten out) unless there is something like a depression, so we'll pick this back up a year from now.

if a person very close to you gets involved in some heinous criminal case, you will be investigated.

and that won't be a denial of your rights, just normal police work.

investigating people for proximity to heinous crimes of violence isn't a violation of free speech if the proximity is made apparent by... speech.

because being investigated isn't a violation of any right.

if your speech was limited at that and you never materially supported terrorist groups, you are good to go. free speech wins.

but the idea law enforcement can't take your behavior in consideration when investigating you is comical

people were fired for facebook posts and wearing Palestine flags and wearing keffiyehs. in some cases people were fired for just being Palestinian. almost none of them were prosecuted and thats bc they didnt do anything illegal. employment is not preserved by what is not illegal in the USA.

the point was that cancel culture is alive and well from the liberals and arguably just as bad as from the conservatives in the USA.

Said many times when there's a crime involved it's fine. You specified all, not when there's a crime. Keep trying if you want.

I exactly wrote "describing how nice it would be", same as pro Hamas people describe how nice it would be "from the river to the sea".

in your complete derangement you fail to recognize that every word and expression can completly change the legality or lack thereof of an act.

you keep sustaining and defending fascist practices and calling me a fascist in the most banal of projections which is what you always do but I have fun (to a point) so I go on to see which limits if any you have in your lack of rationality when confronted with people who don't agree with you.

I didn't write they THREATENED TO BRAND JEWS. I wrote they describe how much they would like that to happen.

Still a straw man because I didn't write any of that crap. You are attacking an argument YOU made up, not one I made. Keep trying if you want.

proof of bold pls

so gorgon would you be in favor or against INVESTIGATING or at least FLAGGING AS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS FOR LATER REVIEW, people who constantly talked as horrifically as they could against Jews or other minorities while technically never expressing threats of imminent violence?

that's the argument, yes or no?

I am in favor of allowing all free speech that is protected by the first amendment. It's not complicated. Protected speech should not trigger a government investigation or monitoring as that violates the first amendment.

What part of the first amendment is hard for you, fascist?

Some federal workers are getting notice that they are being fired for poor performance, despite having gotten excellent performance reviews.

It's probably the same people who were easy to let go because they were fairly recent hires still in their probationary period, Musk just decided to add insult to injury while kicking them out.

So the same goes for Musk's companies, as well as any others who have government contracts?

so if it happens that the Biden administration ever sanctioned monitoring or flagging of anyone for protected speech (which basically means everything that isn't an imminent threat of violence), that makes that administration fascist as well as everybody who approved of that administration?

the companies that get subsidies sure (not sure twitter does for example, I don't think so).

I mentioned starlink shouldn't be allowed to discriminate.

I wouldn't count contracts to fulfill governmental obligation at market prices as subsidies though, if you sell stuff to the government at market prices that shouldn't hinder your freedom.

it's when you get non market benefits that it should, that you become a state actor

A violation of the first amendment is a violation of the first amendment. You realize I don't worship Joe Biden, right? There is no gotcha here. Joe Biden is about 50 miles to the right of me. I voted for Joe Biden because Donald Trump was his opponent, not because I love Joe Biden.

And if you think I approved of everything the Biden administration did, just LOL.

so if fascism applies to everyone everywhere except (on paper) to you and 3 of your ideologically pure friends, how meaningless is the word?

You'd have to ask the other people in the fantasyland you live in. Run along. I'm no longer interested in this conversation.

It's bad faith to point out that Trump hasn't kept his promises? He said the prices of eggs and gasoline would go down "on day one" of his administration.

Of course none of us thought that would happen, but plenty of his uneducated voters surely did.

no? trump made many redic promises he couldn't keep at all and he hasn't kept them.

and the vast majority of voters if not basically everyone knew they were all hyperboles and are fine with it as per approval ratings (for now).

if his uneducated voters were actually believing it, and were now angry, it would show in approval ratings.

well after we reached the "yes Biden was actually fascist" and you joined Victor I guess I might ask you a few more questions

He's now distracting them with BS like taking over Canada, Greenland, and Panama. So much for wanting to be a president who started no wars.

there is no distraction from daily prices, and you know that

Or maybe we just don't want there to be a recession?

The Fed was nearly finished with the fabled "soft landing" of reducing inflation with no recession, while Republicans were doing their best to convince their uneducated voters that we were already in a recession (which was Biden"s fault).
Now they're likely to cause an actual recession, while explaining to those same voters why it's a good thing.

Gas prices here have gone up in the last month.

This sounds pretty much like Trump pardoning the January 6 traitors because traitors and fascists are his political base.