The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.
You said liberals not the Democrats. So I guess you are saying you are using it interchangeably?
To the police reform and prison reform question, the problem isn’t the issues we all agree on, it’s the additional advocacy for police/prison abolitionism/defunding. There are common sense reforms that have even been championed by the right for many years, like body cam footage, constitutional law training, getting rid of ticket and arrest quotas, giving more funding to public defenders.
By just reducing it to “the left loves homeless and not the poor/middle class” we’re not even in the ballpark of talking about a real issue.
Kamala Harris did not believe in Universal Healthcare and lets not forget Gavin Newsom that ran on a Universal Health Care program but once elected and had the majority to pass it abandoned it after a few dinners and a wad of cash from the Healthcare lobbyists .
The Dems could pass universal healthcare by just eliminating the filibuster
Eliminating the filibuster would be the death of all long term social programs in the US. If it can be passed with 50+1 it can be repealed with 50+1
A democracy isn’t 50+1, don’t know who told you that. In any case if you want to get technical, a direct democracy is 50+1 of the population, not the representation.
But we are both a democracy and a constitutional Republic with protections for minority interests, and that’s a more conservative way of doing things that prevents big changes like instituting M4A one year and then getting rid of it the next year.
We know that broad consensus is the way our country is meant to be set up based on the ratification of the constitution and the way that the house and senate were set up to be based off of two different methods of election and sizes, as well as vetos, etc.
Whether it goes against your very limited understanding of democracy is irrelevant to that.
The both sidsers fail to take into account that the republicans fight tooth and nail to stop any and every policy that the democrats attempt to install. If things like universal healthcare and strong environmental laws don't happen, it ain't because the democrats aren't trying.
You seem to ignore the fact that it Lieberman, a Democrat that was selected to be on the 2000 presidential ticket who threatened to filibuster against single payer in 2009.
When Sanders was threatening to win the 2016 primary, it was Obama kneecapping him from the sidelines. Stabbing Bernie in the back with Tom Perez as head of the rigged DNC.
If you think establishment Democrats support universal healthcare, you're delusional. Health insurance and big pharma lobbyists in DC outnumber Congress members in DC by 5 to 1.
It's incredible how many people are taken in by the tribal theater of Dems vs GOP. It's a uniparty with performing actors.
The most successful Dem president of all time, FDR ..... would not be welcome in today's Democratic Party.
Everything changed when Boomers graduated college and entered the work force. They wanted low taxes and Reagan gave it to them. The Dems followed suit.
Obama acknowledged in 2012 that his policies were "80's moderate Republican". It's not even up for debate. Rich people don't pay Obama $500,000 for a 30 minute speech because of the pearls of wisdom he offers. They pay him to be a gatekeeper. To tell black people how to vote so that we don't get someone like Sanders in the White House who would actually use the bully pulpit like FDR did.
That's EVIL in my book.
The both sidsers fail to take into account that the republicans fight tooth and nail to stop any and every policy that the democrats attempt to install. If things like universal healthcare and strong environmental laws don't happen, it ain't because the democrats aren't trying.
You seem to ignore the fact that it Lieberman, a Democrat that was selected to be on the 2000 presidential ticket who threatened to filibuster against single payer in 2009.
When Sanders was threatening to win the 2016 primary, it was Obama kneecapping him from the sidelines. Stabbing Bernie in the back with Tom Perez as head of the rigged DNC.
If you think establishment Democrats support universal healthcare, you're delusional. Health insurance and big pharma lobbyists in DC outnumber Congress members in DC by 5 to 1.
Once upon a time, I was a Democrat.
I literally cried tears of joy when Obama was elected.
And then I learned how he governed. I learned from Podesta's e-mail leaks how Obama's cabinet was selected.
Obama was perfect on the surface. But his virtue was skin-deep. The substance was rotten.
7 million people voted for Obama and Trump.
There are only two issues that seem to really matter. Inequality, because it leads to societal unraveling. And environmental damage, because it leads to societal unraveling. Obama sucked on both. Inaction on inequality is why nearly every incumbent loses now.
We just pass the baton back and forth between two parties who are equally committed to the wealthy. FDR welcomed the hate of govt by organized money. Obama takes up to $1M / hr from them.
Yeah, that’s a college level realization. The answer isn’t throwing your hands up and saying both sides bad, so I’m done with this altogether.
You don’t have to be a democrat to realize that until we have ranked choice, voting democrat is generally better than voting republican.
Once upon a time, I was a Democrat. I literally cried tears of joy when Obama was elected. And then I learned how he governed. I learned from Podesta's e-mail leaks how Obama's cabinet was selected. Obama was perfect on the surface. But his virtue was skin-deep. The substance was rotten. 7 million people voted for Obama and Trump. There are only two issues that seem to really m
You traded the extreme of crying when a Dem gets elected to cursing them all as evil tricksters. Maybe your judgment is just crap and you need to start being a bit more moderate and judicious in your judgment.
Maybe you have absolutely nothing substantive to argue and you're trying to deflect from that nothingness by making the conversation about me ?
Poker has another option beside "checkraisdraw". You should just fold and go hide under a rock. You have absolutely nothing meaningful to offer.
Maybe you have a thinner skin than you think.
The most successful Dem president of all time, FDR ..... would not be welcome in today's Democratic Party.
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Who knows, but FDR wasn't exactly the lefty godsend. He was more pro cap and pro business and markets than Bernie or Mamdani and was way more socially conservative - although the time was certainly different. Most certainly he was against forced labor.
If the man spawned up today and took over the Democratic party, many lefties would be bitchin just the same and call him Obama.
Yeah, that’s a college level realization. The answer isn’t throwing your hands up and saying both sides bad, so I’m done with this altogether.
You don’t have to be a democrat to realize that until we have ranked choice, voting democrat is generally better than voting republican.
Two extinction parties.
Maybe you have absolutely nothing substantive to argue and you're trying to deflect from that nothingness by making the conversation about me ?
Poker has another option beside "checkraisdraw". You should just fold and go hide under a rock. You have absolutely nothing meaningful to offer.
There’s very little to add when the starting point of the debate is that there is a uniparty and the justification for that is Obama wasn’t as far left as you like.
News flash, the vast majority aren’t as far left as you would like given how far left you are. There are substantive policy issues between the Dems and the Republicans, you’re just question begging that those issue are not important.
Gotta love ''the Dems are bad temper tantrum so fk you all and Trump isn't that much different'' and conservatives and dems are the same party.
MAGA and conservatives are actively trying to remove every environmental protection policy there is, while dems as fkd up as they are , aren't.
You can say choose your own poison, but coming from the climate moral chief in place , Nut Nut, it's peak bad faith and makes you wonder if it was all an act.
If your agenda is truly alerting and doing something about climate change, then you cannot with a straight face say both sides are the same.
Or is it another '' the dems made me do it'' thing?
Who knows, but FDR wasn't exactly the lefty godsend. He was more pro cap and pro business and markets than Bernie or Mamdani and was way more socially conservative - although the time was certainly different. Most certainly he was against forced labor. If the man spawned up today and took over the Democratic party, many lefties would be bitchin just the same and call him Obam
FDR was indeed the lefty godsend.
Civil Conservation Corp
Public Works Administration
Social Security
Wagner Act (pro-labor)
Tennessee Valley Authority
Securities & Exchange Commission
FDIC
Fair Labor Standards Act (40 hr workweek and mininum wage)
He used the bully pulpit to great effect. He had the support of the masses.
He won 4 POTUS elections ..... none of which were close.
There’s very little to add when the starting point of the debate is that there is a uniparty and the justification for that is Obama wasn’t as far left as you like.News flash, the vast majority aren’t as far left as you would like given how far left you are. There are substantive policy issues between the Dems and the Republicans, you’re just question begging that those issue a
Somehow these leftist seem to turn full MAGA when pressed on.
Go figure.
Gotta love ''the Dems are bad temper tantrum so fk you all and Trump isn't that much different'' and conservatives and dems are the same party.MAGA and conservatives are actively trying to remove every environmental protection policy there is, while dems as fkd up as they are , aren't.You can say choose your own poison, but coming from the climate moral chief in place , Nut Nut
It doesn't matter if the dems are less bad than the GOP if they aren't good enough to avoid an apocalypse.
Both parties have apocalyptic policy. The GOP perhaps gets us there a bit quicker.
There’s very little to add when the starting point of the debate is that there is a uniparty and the justification for that is Obama wasn’t as far left as you like.News flash, the vast majority aren’t as far left as you would like given how far left you are. There are substantive policy issues between the Dems and the Republicans, you’re just question begging that those issue a
Obama acknowledged that he was equivalent to an 80's moderate Republican.
We have two right wing parties. to choose from.
Now let's look at Bernie Sanders favorability ratings. He's on the left and arguably as popular on the national stage as anyone in office.
The establishment Dems killed off the possibilities of the guy that people like in Sanders. He's a leftist.
You realize you’re just repeating common knowledge stuff, right?
Most of us arrived at similar conclusions years ago.
