British Politics

British Politics

Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.

Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...

Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.

Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...

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by chezlaw k

it's a very different martket to being on holiday and the private sector are exploiting it to the full

We all seem to agree it's an awful way to do it.

private sector is far cheaper than public, public managed hotels would cost more with lower quality (like everything done by the gvmnt).

it is cheaper when done in bulk. and it's cheaper than on season holidays.

just use the cheapest places when they are full of empty rooms


You might like to consider the location of hotels and why there aren't many in very poor areas.


by jalfrezi k

You might like to consider the location of hotels and why there aren't many in very poor areas.

again, open booking.com and go lowest prices first to fill, nationwide.

sure there are fewer hotels in random areas than the are are in London.

but bed and breakfast places and so on are common in rural areas aren't they? fill them all year round, rural ppl make money that makes a difference for them, government saves money


by Luciom k

Can someone from the UK tell me why asylum seekers are house in hotels at 140-150 pounds per person per day (which is more than what a normal family pays per person in hotels)?

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024...

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The government wants them where they can keep track of them, and they can't be paid allowances to just please themselves out in the wild, and the room rates are low-end normal.

I've lately found out that Claude Monet paid 7/6d a night (37.5p) for his room at the Savoy, the cheapest they had circa 1900, I'm guessing with a discount for long-term occupancy. From that room's balcony, since demolished -- it doesn't have a balcony any more, and it's been knocked-through to create a huge vulgar top-price suite that he would have hated -- he painted his amazing foggy views of Westminster Bridge and the Houses of Parliament.


by jalfrezi k

Badenoch has just come out and said that "Partygate was overblown" and the real problem was in issuing fines.

LOOOOL

If she doesn't understand the symbolism of these things, and the optics of top people going 'One rule for thee and another for me,' she may hit trouble.


by Luciom k

private sector is far cheaper than public, public managed hotels would cost more with lower quality (like everything done by the gvmnt).

it is cheaper when done in bulk. and it's cheaper than on season holidays.

just use the cheapest places when they are full of empty rooms


I'd agree the worst of all worlds is usually a public private combo


by chezlaw k

They dont have to be things I would say or think for it to be fine.

fwiw I'm definitely far more more in the Sultana camp than the Badenough one when it comes to the substance

You're OK with forced child marriage and FGM, then, presumably. (Which of course you're not.) Because I think that's what that was about.


You're going to ahve to do some very serious work to convince me that Sultana is ok with either of those


by chezlaw k

I'd agree the worst of all worlds is usually a public private combo

it can be terrible in sectors with no competition, but hospitality has a zillion suppliers and is very competitive


Housing refugees seeking asylum is not hospitality


by chezlaw k

Housing refugees seeking asylum is not hospitality

it actually literally is


No it isnt


Let's break from Panto season to spare a thought for the true victims of the callous Budget:



by 57 On Red k

If she doesn't understand the symbolism of these things, and the optics of top people going 'One rule for thee and another for me,' she may hit trouble.

The point she made was that it was a mistake to fine people for breaking the rules, which is fair enough - we did a lot of dumb and unnecessary things during covid, and fines may have been one of them.


by chezlaw k

I agree that trans women are women. I dont like the vitriol aimed at some women who struggle with this and/or fear men.

There is nothing to struggle with. It's that it's eminently desirable to treat trans women as women socially. However, female is a protected characteristic for good reason, and males cannot be female when it comes to some aspects of society, like prisons or professional sports. This is because these categorical differences exist to protect females from males.


by 57 On Red k

No, the average British farm is family-owned and is worth about £2.5 million, so it will be liable. The bigger corporate owners will have financial and legal instruments in place to ensure they don't have to pay, so this tax measure looks like a misfire.


How about the Median? Guarantee you that most farmers will be liable for nowt, and some a very small amount. It's skewed by the giants

Plus, many farms are leased not owned


by chezlaw k

I agree that trans women are women.

You don't believe in biology?


by Luciom k

it actually literally is


It's literally refuge


by fatshaft k

You don't believe in biology?


I definitely believe in biology.

I'm more a physics man but all science is good


She’s not wrong. Hats off to her for having principles where others only have corruption.




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by jalfrezi k

Can't possibly be related to


It's unlikely that Dyson does not have measures in place to avoid inheritance tax.


Yep. Unfortunately the huge estates won't pay.

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