British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
Any fellow Brits sick of Starmer's Labour, sign this petition, it's going up fast and getting through to mainstream...
Sorry, mate, I'm a democrat, parties get their time in office unless they are obviously corrupt or grossly negligent.
In which case, it's up against the wall, last smoke, then bang-bang-bang.
Also worth pointing out that "re-join the EU" got 6m. Obviously Labour are bad, but Badenoch or Farage are not the answer.
Meanwhile, for anyone wondering why left-wing parties are struggling to connect with voters in the west...
I bet some were making similar points when debates over whether to legalise homosexuality were taking place more than 50 years ago, Elrazor.
Also worth pointing out that "re-join the EU" got 6m. Obviously Labour are bad, but Badenoch or Farage are not the answer.
I don't think it's really about calling a GE, it's just letting Labour know they're performing poorly, what they're doing is unpopular and that they need to change their ways.
Will it work? probably not because they seem incapable of listening, but it hopefully it will galvanise opposition in the country to some of their policies and put doubt into the minds of their backbench MPs.
Performing poorly means something different to different people.
I might say they’re performing poorly because they’re far too right wing. Others might say they’re not right wing enough and should bring back national service and the birch.
Fortunately there’s a mechanism to resolve this called an election cycle.
Performing poorly means something different to different people.
I might say they’re performing poorly because they’re far too right wing. Others might say they’re not right wing enough and should bring back national service and the birch.
Fortunately there’s a mechanism to res
I'm not sure the Electoral system served us well on this occasion. Starmer's Labour got 9 million votes for a landslide win, when Theresa May got 12 million votes and couldn't secure a majority, Corbyn too got 10 million in 2019 and more in 2017. It's a bit dysfunctional in all honesty. Landslides conferring so much power should be more about popular endorsement of the people than dispersement of alternative votes imo, 9 mill ain't it.
2029 is a long old wait for a Party that in 4 months has managed to alienate so many.
Electoral system has been a failure since... forever....
but it's still better than all the alternatives, unfortunately
“Popular endorsement of the people”
That’s not how people tend to vote. In most elections people are voting against one party, not in favour of another.
FPTP is an appropriate electoral system for the UK, a nation riven by tribalism, because it maximises punishment while unfortunately rewarding mediocrity.
"Expectedly painful" imo
Any fellow Brits sick of Starmer's Labour, sign this petition, it's going up fast and getting through to mainstream...
Get over it, you lost 😃
The word "gay", for one.
The meanings of words are not set in stone forever, Luciom, but are literally in a state of flux. Language is awesome, isn't it?
First used in the film Gilda I believe. It was a code word to ask men if they were homosexual
It was chosen by the homosexual community as a word they wanted to be used because there was nothing between the clinical and polysyllabic "homosexual" and the various pithy epithets we've all heard.
And no one cried "Oh no look, they're changing the meaning of a word".
That sounds sad .
I felt England had strong ties with tradition .
London's 850-year-old food markets to close
Chris Hayward, policy chairman of the City of London Corporation, said the decision represented a "positive new chapter" for the markets as it "empowers traders to build a sustainable future in premises that align with their long-term business goals".
He added: "By stepping back from direct market operations, we will help to create opportunities for these businesses to thrive independently.
"We've worked closely with the traders and thank them for their input and understanding.
"We're committed to making sure they have the financial support and guidance they need to transition seamlessly and successfully to new locations."
Typical bs narrative .
Could get an after party pint there at 6am too. Some had a very large breakfast with it.
Last of the big London wholesale markets gone. Covent Garden, Spitalfields and now Smithfields.
Homosexuality is predicated on the existence of sex. One cannot be attracted to the same sex, if sex does not exist. If you deny sex exists, then you are denying homosexuals exist, which is extremely homophobic, Jalfrezi.
As for the language argument, sex is a fundamental truth that explains the existence of complex life. This remains true whether humans describe it through language or not, and sex will continue to exist long after humans have gone extinct.
Homosexuality is part of a wide range of sexual experiences found among humans and some other animals.
Procreational sex accounts for a vanishingly small number of the sexual encounters between people, some of which don’t even involve genitalia. We have long since evolved from a species that only initiated sex for reproductive purposes.
As far as language goes you still have yet to defone a woman in a way that doesn’t exclude some.
A few of us from work once went for a very large breakfast. Some of us have a few pints with it.
Tough morning.
I can't say I've ever been to Smithfields, but if I lived in London I almost certainly would to get high quality meat and much cheaper prices than supermarkets. Prices there are often cheaper than you can buy in The North.
So in closing these markets, they are forcing people during a cost-of-living crisis to buy supermarket crap at inflated prices when food poverty is a thing and obesity is on the increase.
Remind me why this government is so unpopular again?
The word "gay", for one.
The meanings of words are not set in stone forever, Luciom, but are literally in a state of flux. Language is awesome, isn't it?
Meaning can change with usage in time, problem is when you want to violently impose that from above (ie legally mandate a change in meaning, with meaningful legal consequences).
It is especially a problem when you want to apply statutes written with the word used with the old meaning to your new arbitrary definition.
That dissolves the rule of law and as such is an existential threat to civil order.
Given the importance of semantics for the functioning of a legal system, decent people should refrain from redefining words that have legal consequences.
And btw that some words can change in meaning occasionally doesn't mean that all words should change with high frequency , especially structurally essential words like mother or woman.
I can't say I've ever been to Smithfields, but if I lived in London I almost certainly would to get high quality meat and much cheaper prices than supermarkets. Prices there are often cheaper than you can buy in The North.
So in closing these markets, they are forcing people during a cost-of-living
It's for wholesale, not for the general public ldo. Do you know nothing about food markets? Where do you think butchers etc get their meat from? Does it grow on trees in their back yards?
