2025 WSOP!!
I know it’s early and normally I’m not excited about WSOP this soon after but dang it, I’m itching to go back already!
I made some deep runs and cashed in 2024 but still feel unfulfilled by going home without some hardware on my wrist.
2025 is my year!!
Any thoughts on how the GG purchase might change it in 2025, if at all? I suspect it will be pretty similar to last year but with more online qualifiers, satellites, and events.
If you can guess from previous years announcements dates, can you forecast the 2025 schedule announcements dates ?
Here is the previous announcement dates :
1. 2024. 16 February.
2. 2023. 3 February.
3. 2022 23 February.
4. 2021. 15 June. (November WSOP).
5. 2019. 9 January.
6. 2018. December 12 2017.
7. 2017 January 25.
8. 2016. *December 18th 2015 .
* All popular tournaments dates only.
As per “Pokerfuse” : “…. that the full WSOP 2025 schedule can be expected by the end of February….”
If they are correct my guess would be 25th February.
I'm about 95% sure that if you are not actually Diamond during your stay, you will be assessed resort fees. The rate is the rate, and that will be honored. Resort fees are waived for Diamond members. I hope it works out for anyone trying. I'm also in the Wyndham credit card match screwed bucket currently.
I don't think that is the case, they have to advertise the complete rate total upfront at time of booking. If they do try and charge me they are going to be in for a fight, but still, I don't expect them to do so. I have a copy (screenshot) of my booking of the rate and shows resort fee' $0.
Resort Fees outlawed federally. Hotels to comply by April ...
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Hotels can still charge resort fees as long as the resort fee is included in the initially and most prominently advertised price.
I'm about 95% sure that if you are not actually Diamond during your stay, you will be assessed resort fees. The rate is the rate, and that will be honored. Resort fees are waived for Diamond members. I hope it works out for anyone trying. I'm also in the Wyndham credit card match screwed bucket currently.
If you look at your confirmation email they CLEARLY state a GRAND TOTAL including taxes. If you booked while Diamond that has no resort fees. You (and I) and everyone caught in this donut hole should be fine for the hotel. Everything else not so much.
I had sent an email to Caesar's Rewards asking them to move me back to Diamond. I received a response today saying Wyndham no longer matches. This is contrary to what they told me on the phone yesterday. It seems they don't even know what's going on with it. I'll still try calling tomorrow, but it sounds like it isn't going to happen
Meh that makes no sense, they literally have a link on the Ceasars member website for that exact upgrade. I know you know your stuff but that would be bizarre unless they aren't changing their own website .
Meh this is the link https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partne...
I had sent an email to Caesar's Rewards asking them to move me back to Diamond. I received a response today saying Wyndham no longer matches. This is contrary to what they told me on the phone yesterday. It seems they don't even know what's going on with it. I'll still try calling tomorrow, but it sounds like it isn't going to happen
Meh that makes no sense, they literally have a link on the Ceasars member website for that exact upgrade. I know you know your stuff but that would be bizarre unless
I called them and they confirmed I can not get Diamond.
Toward the bottom on the link you provided, it states they’ll match if you earned the status through Wyndham. So if you stay a ton of nights with him to achieve their high status, then you can match.
I, and suspect most others, had automatic Diamond through Wyndham via the credit card and not because of the number of nights stayed. They no longer match that anymore unless earned.
So yeah, confirmed screwed.
I'm about 95% sure that if you are not actually Diamond during your stay, you will be assessed resort fees. The rate is the rate, and that will be honored. Resort fees are waived for Diamond members. I hope it works out for anyone trying. I'm also in the Wyndham credit card match screwed bucket currently.
Just called and explained the situation and they said they honor the rate I booked at. I had them look it up in the system and read back to me the grand total I still owe on the room and it’s the same as the email confirmation they sent me back when I booked it.
So it does seem they honor the deal I made while Diamond even though I’m no longer Diamond. Glad I booked early!
Just called and explained the situation and they said they honor the rate I booked at. I had them look it up in the system and read back to me the grand total I still owe on the room and it's the same as the email confirmation they sent me back when I booked it.
So it does seem they honor the deal I made while Diamond even though I'm no longer Diamond. Glad I booked early!
Great work, and great news! Glad my suspicion was incorrect.
Just called and explained the situation and they said they honor the rate I booked at. I had them look it up in the system and read back to me the grand total I still owe on the room and it's the same as the email confirmation they sent me back when I booked it.
So it does seem they honor the deal I made while Diamond even though I'm no longer Diamond. Glad I booked early!
Guys I wish you guys are correct . I had exactly opposite situation 3/4 years ago. I was gold and was short 500- 600 points in getting diamond. I had 2 stays of 4 nights so I was being charged resort fees even the rooms were comps.
After booking I called to remove the resort fees. They said at present you are Gold so we can not remove the resort fees but do not worry by the time you will be here , you will earn some points ( I had about a months time before WSOP starts ) and we only charge resort fees based on the status at the time of check out .
As per my understanding the room charges will stay what ever you are quoted at the time of booking but resort fees is based on the status at the time of check out !
I hope I am wrong
Guys I wish you guys are correct . I had exactly opposite situation 3/4 years ago. I was gold and was short 500- 600 points in getting diamond. I had 2 stays of 4 nights so I was being charged resort fees even the rooms were comps.
After booking I called to remove the resort fees. They said at present you are Gold so we can not remove the resort fees but do not worry by the time you will be here , you will earn some points ( I had about a months time before WSOP starts ) and we only charge r
Different situation you say you BOOKED as a GOLD therefore resort fees would apply at the time of booking. Now if you BECAME Diamond by the time you checked out you should have had the resort fees removed. But possibly you are confused because jumping from Gold to Diamond is a pretty big step up. If YOUR move up was Gold to Platinum then you are still subject to Resort Fee's.
I confirmed price is a confirmed price When they state GRAND TOTAL and that specifically includes taxes (which it does on their confirmation) their is no legal basis to charge someone a dime more
Cromwell 6/15 - 6/27
Subtotal: $379.00
Taxes: $50.71
Deposit Received: $49.89
Room Total: $429.71
GRAND TOTAL $429.71
There just isn't a "gotcha" provision to allow them to do otherwise. My time at the Horseshoe after this is exactly the same and since they took Deposits on both at the listed PRICING they will honor it just as Dr Meh has specified per his phone conversation above.
Just called and explained the situation and they said they honor the rate I booked at. I had them look it up in the system and read back to me the grand total I still owe on the room and it's the same as the email confirmation they sent me back when I booked it.
So it does seem they honor the deal I made while Diamond even though I'm no longer Diamond. Glad I booked early!
Guys I wish you guys are correct . I had exactly opposite si
I directly asked them this question as part of my concern is they’ll pull shenanigans when I’m checking out and try to get me to pay resort fees.
They flat out told me the amount I owe and said the amount I will pay is the grand total when they booked it.
Of course, I don’t always trust people so part of me is still expecting the possibility that they’ll try to tack them on when I check in or out.
I really hope not, though. It would be a bad look for them and there’s probably enough people in similar positions that they would pursue some legal remedies. In fact, maybe there has been some legal precedence set since your experience and currently where they have to honor the amount quoted when booked. I know there have been some legal challenges to resort fees in general in the last few years so maybe they have to honor booking price now.
Different situation you say you BOOKED as a GOLD therefore resort fees would apply at the time of booking. Now if you BECAME Diamond by the time you checked out you should have had the resort fees removed. But possibly you are confused because jumping from Gold to Diamond is a pretty big step up. If YOUR move up was Gold to Platinum then you are still subject to Resort Fee's.
I confirmed price is a confirmed price When they state GRAND TOTAL and that specifically includes taxes (which is d
You may be correct Sir, I remember I earned almost 10 k points in the month of march ( Thx to Ceasars CC ) and was short 500 and some odds point to become Diamond. When reached Las Vegas I was Gold but after 2 days I checked my points crossed required 15000 so before I checked out I had Diamond card .
I don't think that is the case, they have to advertise the complete rate total upfront at time of booking. If they do try and charge me they are going to be in for a fight, but still, I don't expect them to do so. I have a copy (screenshot) of my booking of the rate and shows resort fee' $0.
Resort Fees outlawed federally. Hotels to comply by April ...
Reddit · r/Mlife
70+ comments · 1 month ago
Hotels can still charge resort fees as long as the resort fee is included in the initially and mo
If you look at your confirmation email they CLEARLY state a GRAND TOTAL including taxes. If you booked while Diamond that has no resort fees. You (and I) and everyone caught in this donut hole should be fine for the hotel. Everything else not so much.
Yeah, but you wouldn't like it if you booked with 14,000 tc and got quoted the resort fee normal prices, and then earned 100 tc on your first day, and got charged the quoted price.
I would not be surprised one single bit if the CET reservation system was unable to take into account whether your card status expired or not before your trip.
Yeah, but you wouldn't like it if you booked with 14,000 tc and got quoted the resort fee normal prices, and then earned 100 tc on your first day, and got charged the quoted price.
I would not be surprised one single bit if the CET reservation system was unable to take into account whether your card status expired or not before your trip.
Of course not, and I would certainly try to have them eliminate the resort fees demonstrating I am qualified for there exemption based on my current status. Never hurts to ask and the higher you can go on the management food chain the more likely you are to get a positive answer and doing it face to face helps also. I don't ask for much and am not a demanding patron and I personally have never had an issue with CET being anything but fair to me during my many years of stays. Might have just been lucky but I'm not concerned at all about the room charge. My issue will be seeing if I can be exempted from the valet charges...that I don't have much confidence in and may end up with a lot of self parking as platinum.
I would think the decision on valet would be made at the valet station. Show your card, be exempt from charges.
The distance from the room elevators to the parking garage may be about the same as to the front of the hotel anyway.
Actually, for me, it's not a big deal in the morning. I stayed at the Tropicana a few years ago and found that at 9:00 a.m. even in the summer it's not a difficult walk on the shady side of the street. LINQ and Harrah's are Ceasars properties. A little closer, and easier to cut through air-conditioned casinos on the way.
If it's too crazy hot, can walk indoors most of the way to MGM (or just stay at MGM) and take monorail to the Horseshoe/Paris stop. Or can walk to Aria and take free tram to Bellagio and walk from there to the Shoe.
At night after play is over, the walk back to the hotel is pleasant and can stop for a drink/food en route.
But I get it -- staying at the Shoe/Paris means you never have to go outside, which has some appeal
I would think the decision on valet would be made at the valet station. Show your card, be exempt from charges.
The distance from the room elevators to the parking garage may be about the same as to the front of the hotel anyway.
They installed electronic readers a couple years ago at the Horseshoe valet and it hits your room charge when you scan your ticket - it should always be comped for a Diamond but I have had to have an incorrect billing reversed in the past.
Unless they have significantly changed the diamond card this year I plan on flashing my 2024 card to use the Tournament VIP buy in lines that are manned by typically bored security guards to keep out the "riff raff" which I will be this time around 😀 I'm still holding out hope FC changes again this year or my Wyndham status (hotel stays) transfer goes through ( I might have misstated my Wyndham status a little LOL but I have stayed a LOT at their properties the last two years building my status or something else pops up. Worst comes to worst I may have to frequent a Local Horseshoe that I prefer to avoid (in the city) and build points the old fashion way. Prior to the WSOP. Obviously I would have to hammer the 10X point days to have a shot. Diamond status really makes my life a lot cheaper and simpler.
If you're going to stay at The Shoe, or any other strip-casino, you might want to request a room that's not adjacent to the strip.
Unless you're really high up, the strip can be very noisy with traffic, even early in the morning. Heavy trucks, street racers, emergency services, etc. can be rather counterproductive for sleep, one of the keys to WSOP success...
good luck with your wsop hotel bookings.
They installed electronic readers a couple years ago at the Horseshoe valet and it hits your room charge when you scan your ticket - it should always be comped for a Diamond but I have had to have an incorrect billing reversed in the past.
Unless they have significantly changed the diamond card this year I plan on flashing my 2024 card to use the Tournament VIP buy in lines that are manned by typically bored security guards to keep out the "riff raff" which I will be this time around 😀 I'm s
I contacted Founders card about diamond status, they said decision to sever ties with Caesars is final, and is partnering with Wynn to replace it. Looks like it only applies to Wynn Las Vegas not Encore Boston Harbor. I only booked one reservation for the July (main event), I usually go for a week in June, kinda wished I booked it also but I usually wait for the full schedule. I do hope they honor the waiving of resort fees, it's not the end of the world but it would be nice..
Re: walking any distance between properties in the Summer, I think it's going to depend largely on how acclimated to high heat you are, and how much you sweat. I stayed at the Shoe last Summer but wanted to play an event at the Wynn. I thought if I left early enough and planned to get lunch before the tournament started, I could walk and be fine. Despite taking it pretty slow, going through all the properties I could in between - and there are a bunch - I still found that after I arrived at the Wynn I was a sweaty mess. Now, it was already over 100 degrees at 10:00 in the morning (high that day was 115), I'm from Seattle where we find 85 to be super hot, and I sweat more than the average guy, so that was all working against me. Still, you have to really consider just what the walk is going to be and what state you'll be in when you arrive. Going through properties on the way adds a lot of extra walking, as there are very few places where you're in a straight line.
I'm planning on staying at the Shoe every time I'm there for the WSOP. The convenience for the WSOP events - including the ability to get to my room if I want during breaks - is wonderful, but I also find it easily walkable to a couple of the other poker rooms I'm likely to be playing either cash or another tournament in. You can get to the Venetian pretty easily without being outside for very long, and you can walk to the Aria while only being outside to cross the strip on the sky bridge. Others have pointed out Harrah's and Linq as great options if you want to save a few bucks, and I concur. Unfortunately the cheap MGM properties are all further away. The Park is the only one I'd probably consider, as you can actually walk all the way from Park to Bellagio via tunnels and only be outside for a very short distance. It ends up being a decently long walk all the way to the Shoe, but at least you're air conditioned most of the way.
Re: walking any distance between properties in the Summer, I think it's going to depend largely on how acclimated to high heat you are, and how much you sweat. I stayed at the Shoe last Summer but wanted to play an event at the Wynn. I thought if I left early enough and planned to get lunch before the tournament started, I could walk and be fine. Despite taking it pretty slow, going through all the properties I could in between - and there are a bunch - I still found that after I arrived at the
Yeah, I would just figure on $30-$40 round trip for transport. If I were too poor for that I'd probably just stay put. MAYBE venture to PHo if the rumors are true and they open a room over there.
Even just schlepping to Bellagio/Aria/Park I would limit to 100-105 (mid-morning) because I wouldn't want to be a sweat-soaked mess when I got there. I live in AZ so I can handle 100 for a short walk. A typical summer has it 90 or more at midnight, so it doesn't take long to heat up.
Remember to bring a good hat, like a boonie hat, which has a brim all the way round. A coybow type hat with an even bigger brim might be a good idea, plus give off a good image.
Re: walking any distance between properties in the Summer, I think it's going to depend largely on how acclimated to high heat you are, and how much you sweat. I stayed at the Shoe last Summer but wanted to play an event at the Wynn. I thought if I left early enough and planned to get lunch before the tournament started, I could walk and be fine. Despite taking it pretty slow, going through all the properties I could in between - and there are a bunch - I still found that after I arrived at the
It's very individual-based. I'm not going to pretend to enjoy walking in Vegas in the summer. It's brutal.
On the other hand, it can be done if you're so inclined. Shoe to Wynn isn't THAT bad. Go out the bazaar, up the escalators, walk through Drais, through Flamingo, cross LINQ promenade, LINQ to Harrah's, hang a right up the Venetian people-mover, through Palazzo shops, exit down Grimaldi's escalator, cross the bridge, and then into Wynn shops all the way through to Encore. There's maybe a total of 5-7 minutes of outdoor exposure with the right route.
The variables here are your fitness level, your familiarity with the area, and your willingness to burn $$$ on ride share or rental cars if you don't have your own vehicle. If I were unfamiliar with the area and/or had mobility issues, I would prioritize a venue like Horseshoe, Paris, or PH that entails very little walking. Personally, I'm not paying $$$ to rent a car or use ride share when I can get from A to B for free. If you play modest stakes, those transportation costs are going to eat up most of your ROI, which may or may not matter to you depending on your mindset (budget-conscious vs. treating the vacation like a write-off).
Overall I would describe the strip as very walkable, but the weather discourages long hikes in the summer. If that matters to you, book a venue close to where you want to play. Minimize the heat by beginning your walk in the AM.
If you'll have access to a car, it doesn't much matter.
Hopefully the schedule will be released soon so we'll have more interesting things to discuss than optimal hiking routes.
I expect schedule to be announced by Feb 24 like I said earlier in this thread