Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV


nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4) -$5943.81


nl10 -$773.92 -15 buy ins below EV


Total loss -$15509.91


This is me playing nl2, nl5 and nl10 on party poker for one year.

My history begins somewhere in same period when they started to show WSOP shows in television. I think I have played 12-13 years nows mainly NL2, some amount of NL5 and little bit of NL10 what is the biggest stake i've ever played.

I've read all Sklansky, all Harrington, all Miller, watched huge amount of videos, bought trackers and calculators.

Still after those years and after that all I've lost huge amount of money on those stakes. I try to play my best but losing to huge suckouts like 95/5 favorite makes me really upset.

I've lost literally all my money including all my life savings to online poker. I want to try one last time to win those money back and little bit of extra. That's why $16k. What I need is support and guiding.

I had thread on micro forum but they deleted it just when people start to understand that this is real situation and not fake.

And if you wonder where that biggest loser comes from it was said by guy who has been playing for living many years. He said I'm the biggest loser in history counted as lost buy ins.

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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You make blackjack and roulette look +ev, try it out.


by treetop21 k

The purpose would not be to exploit/bully anyone. It would be to determine if he could go from a losing player to a winning player, and more broadly to examine whether people of habit can change/adapt.

Or we could all do nothing but laugh at him in this thread for another 5+ years whilst he loses another quarter million playing the lowest stakes games on the Internet. Is that preferable?


it would for sure make for an absolutely riveting documentary. the problem is that Paisting would never participate in such a film. he doesn't even want free coaching because he doesn't feel he needs it. his losing at the tables isn't his fault - it's everyone else's.


by MastaAces k

his losing at the tables isn't his fault - it's everyone else's.

Kind if makes sense because everyone at the table has brains and is smart enough not to jam every hand untill your br for the moment is a bust after losing a preflop allin with aces against kings. Also they understand that making a few -ev calls ends up being massively +ev for the same reason.


by enzet k

your true winrate is probably around -50 bb/100, and obviously with a high std. deviation thanks for your "elusive" style.

with a monthly average of 20000 hands your chance of winning is 0.2%. you need to play 42 years to have an expected amount of 1 winning month. hope this helps.

Way too logical for a response but really hope you get one!


by treetop21 k

I actually have a serious suggestion here, one which could help Paisting have a better 2024 on the felt.

We make a documentary about OP's poker exploits. We could call it 'Taking a Paisting' or something like that. Whilst I'm certainly no Werner Herzog, I have a some experience in filmmaking and some of the equipment required to do so.

Said documentary opens with footage of Paisting going on monkey tilt after taking a bad beat against one of those late position raising whales, before a well know

You could give Paisting RTA in the form of an advanced AI brain implant that combined Nash Equilibrium strategies with MDA and individual player stats to report the perfect play for every single spot, and he'd still find a way to be a massively losing player. While your documentary would be riveting to watch, we all know 2 weeks of coaching wouldn't help OP in the slightest.


You can't properly punish min-raising whales with RTA.


1 word for that graph shocking also i hope he stopped depositing? let me know jeez mary and joseph


by Controlledraise k

1 word for that graph shocking also i hope he stopped depositing? let me know jeez mary and joseph

What do you expect from addict though?


by Paisting k

That’s nowhere even near enough for nl2. You can find many graphs from this topic where I run over 100 buy ins below ev.

That’s why I’m revealing hoaxers here who say they beat nl2 but in fact are just won like 20 buy ins with really few hands.

Many those hoaxers like Confucius96 won’t even play anymore because of me revealing them and saving people’s money when they try to sell coaching.

Your win rate has improved drastically. You went from losing around 100bb/100 to 50bb/100. Congrats, you can now play better than my refrigerator.


by MicroDonkYT k

Your win rate has improved drastically. You went from losing around 100bb/100 to 50bb/100. Congrats, you can now play better than my refrigerator.

That's because I've started to play super aggressive against late positions from blinds.

And everyone who is saying I'm shoving every hand go back and look those hands I've posted to this topic. And also what is problem shove hand with 80%+ equity if you know they are calling? You find lots of those too from this years post. Almost every of those suckouted by massive whale.


by Paisting k

That's because I've started to play super aggressive against late positions from blinds.

And everyone who is saying I'm shoving every hand go back and look those hands I've posted to this topic. And also what is problem shove hand with 80%+ equity if you know they are calling? You find lots of those too from this years post. Almost every of those suckouted by massive whale.

It's hard to argue with this, Paisting.

Maybe there are good times ahead.


by Tuma k

It's hard to argue with this, Paisting

Many things I have told for years ago are now something that people see was true. Also many things been debunked by me like playing higher, playing all in or fold games, everything.


by Paisting k

That's because I've started to play super aggressive against late positions from blinds.

And everyone who is saying I'm shoving every hand go back and look those hands I've posted to this topic. And also what is problem shove hand with 80%+ equity if you know they are calling? You find lots of those too from this years post. Almost every of those suckouted by massive whale.

these are all good points, if not for those you would deffo be a winning player


by ManastaR k

You make blackjack and roulette look +ev, try it out.

This.


by b1ochemical k

This.

Like GG’s all in or fold games that I absolute crushed with massive winrate and still lost almost $200. If you look this topic you in fact see that I’ve been debunked every suggested +ev games one by one to show you give false suggestions.


Paisting discovered rake after playing for 20 years, 60 more and he might win something.


I just saw this thread and couldn't believe my eyes. Dude, do you have a job, family? Why are you torturing yourself?

Even if $8k a year isn’t a lot of money for you, it’s hellish to lose all the time.


by max3602 k


Even if $8k a year isn’t a lot of money for you, it’s hellish to lose all the time.

I haven’t said that it’s not lots of money. In fact if you think the stakes I’m playing it is really big loss because I’m here for making profit and first winning month. I also think losing 350 dollars to suckouts is really big number looking those hands and how whale the players are.


Dude, your suckout losses are only about 1% of your total losses, and considering that you are all in most of your hands - 1% is nothing, you are NOT unlucky. You have serious gambling and mental problems. I dont want to be rude to you, i ve created this acc to post in this thread. Einstein once said - “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
Bro, you will never break even. You should close this chapter of your life and live on, you are torturing yourself. I think that you are a capable and intelligent person, but this is not enough to succeed in poker. Poker is about discipline. And there is no shame to stop this insanity, if you ever quit poker i think most people would consider it a win for you. It is extremely hard to quit on your own, so you need to seek help (addict groups, psychologists, family).

Wish you well.


by Lokitor k

Dude, your suckout losses are only about 1% of your total losses, and considering that you are all in most of your hands

It’s not all in every hand. One of the biggest false claims in this topic. Look those hands posted here. When you see there’s all in, it’s massive ahead in equity in many spots.


by Paisting k

It’s not all in every hand. One of the biggest false claims in this topic. Look those hands posted here. When you see there’s all in, it’s massive ahead in equity in many spots.

I didnt say every hand, i said most. Even if you end up all in preflop 5% of your hands it is insanely -ev. I have played 6700 hands today, i am too lazy to check all-ins that were called preflop, but its probably about 15-30 hands.


by Paisting k

When you see there’s all in, it’s massive ahead in equity in many spots.

because you dont post your suckouts, all those months you've ran above ev


Can we get an all time graph pls? In pt4 you can create an alias and add your accounts into one graph


gl in 2024 paisting.


2024 is gonna be different for paisting I can feel it

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